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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:35:15 GMT
He’s done a brilliant job in galvanising the nation and he’s clearly a very decent bloke who the players love. He’s a bang average manager though who needs to be replaced by someone who can take the shackles off this side. We’ve got some of the most exciting attacking talent in the world but he’s shit scared of making a game open and trying to outscore the opposition. How has Saka managed to find himself ahead of Grealish and Sancho in this side? Spot on Hasn't that been the prob for 40 years but appoint the same old types Who though? Mourinho was the man for me a few years ago for speaks his mind so not FA approved
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2021 22:36:31 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Nothing like brining on cold, inexperienced and weak minded youngsters to take massive penos. Mind you Henderson and Walker were taken off 🤨 I'd rather either of them take a peno than Rashford a notorious bottler in penos and a 19yr old. He just imposed his weakness in the moment onto those poor kids. On the face of it, and if there are some mitigating circumstances please tell me, it was stark raving mad. 2 beautifully dispatched penalties from Kane and Maguire, 2 amazing saves from Pickford ruined by not 1, not 2 but 3 bat shit crazy penalties
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Post by J-Roar on Jul 11, 2021 22:38:06 GMT
Good example of how not to manage a football match. Stood like a rabbit in the headlights until they scored, ignored Grealish until too late and then completely fucked up the penalty shoot out.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 22:39:43 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Nothing like brining on cold, inexperienced and weak minded youngsters to take massive penos. Mind you Henderson and Walker were taken off 🤨 I'd rather either of them take a peno than Rashford a notorious bottler in penos and a 19yr old. He just imposed his weakness in the moment onto those poor kids. How are they weak minded? They had the balls to step up.
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Post by lennythegoose on Jul 11, 2021 22:40:23 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up.
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Post by lennythegoose on Jul 11, 2021 22:43:38 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Nothing like brining on cold, inexperienced and weak minded youngsters to take massive penos. Mind you Henderson and Walker were taken off 🤨 I'd rather either of them take a peno than Rashford a notorious bottler in penos and a 19yr old. He just imposed his weakness in the moment onto those poor kids. But Rashford isn’t a notorious bottler. That’s just not accurate. PSG away. No bottling.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 22:44:53 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up. I have more issues with an England manager playing for penalties tbh. I’ve never liked Southgate and think he’s been far too negative all tournament but tonight was a masterclass in it .
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2021 22:47:42 GMT
I must admit the 2 subs be brought on in the 120th minute in order to take penalties won't go down in history as his finest moment Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up. True but Henderson played in to the game or Rashford with his only kick of the night? Anyway we'll never know but what followed Kane and Maguire were 3 of the most daft penalties you will ever see. They undid all the good work of Jordan Pickford. HoHum, World Cup next summer and that's a proper competition rather than this johnny come lately small stage affair!!
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 11, 2021 22:51:32 GMT
Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up. True but Henderson played in to the game or Rashford with his only kick of the night? Rashford made a great tackle and took a throw… … Not sure Sancho got one…
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Post by george2again on Jul 11, 2021 22:53:16 GMT
Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up. I have more issues with an England manager playing for penalties tbh. I’ve never liked Southgate and think he’s been far too negative all tournament but tonight was a masterclass in it . Have to agree, hard to criticise a final appearance but he’s an awful manager who’s rode his luck. Tonight needed incisive decision making and he got it wrong from the kick off. Mason Mount awful tournament, first name on team sheet. Only a year to suffer him till after World Cup .
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2021 22:55:29 GMT
Get Stevie G in for the World Cup. Gareth is a nice bloke but nice blokes don't win titles. He's beat no one of substance
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 22:55:52 GMT
I have more issues with an England manager playing for penalties tbh. I’ve never liked Southgate and think he’s been far too negative all tournament but tonight was a masterclass in it . Have to agree, hard to criticise a final appearance but he’s an awful manager who’s rode his luck. Tonight needed incisive decision making and he got it wrong from the kick off. Mason Mount awful tournament, first name on team sheet. Only a year to suffer him till after World Cup . Didn't take long.
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Post by lennythegoose on Jul 11, 2021 22:57:15 GMT
Piss poor pens but he can’t control the execution. There’s no-one in the country who would have chosen Henderson over Rashford for penalties. They’d have practiced a plenty and then fucked it up. True but Henderson played in to the game or Rashford with his only kick of the night? Anyway we'll never know but what followed Kane and Maguire were 3 of the most daft penalties you will ever see. They undid all the good work of Jordan Pickford. HoHum, World Cup next summer and that's a proper competition rather than this johnny come lately small stage affair!! We’ll piss it and Stoke will get promotion. It’ll be a hell of a season. UTP
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 11, 2021 22:57:54 GMT
Have to agree, hard to criticise a final appearance but he’s an awful manager who’s rode his luck. Tonight needed incisive decision making and he got it wrong from the kick off. Mason Mount awful tournament, first name on team sheet. Only a year to suffer him till after World Cup . Didn't take long. But, and I really like Southgate, it was kind of his fault. He’s got to learn from it now and take us one step further next year. We don’t need penalties, we can beat Italy in 90 mins next time.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jul 11, 2021 22:58:47 GMT
He should have made subs sooner, should have gone after them when we were well on top.
But he's doing a great job, made us genuine contenders, and I always feel that because he's an intelligent and humble man he's always learning and improving.
Obviously hope he's around for years to come.
Maybe next time. And I believe with the players coming through there WILL be another final
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 11, 2021 22:58:56 GMT
Arise bottler Garreth
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Post by yyy on Jul 11, 2021 23:01:19 GMT
Don't know about the freedom of England but he should definatly be given the freedom of strangeways 😂
Only joking, got to admit as a person that lost interest in England the moment he was given the job, we look a good team and his only two tournaments as national manager he has seen us through to a semi and a final, third time lucky for the world Cup.
Should definatly get a crack at the world Cup as should his assistant team.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jul 11, 2021 23:02:24 GMT
Fantastic manager, thanks for delivering another great tournament to be proud of.
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Post by citynickscfc on Jul 11, 2021 23:03:52 GMT
Fantastic manager, thanks for delivering another great tournament to be proud of. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:07:23 GMT
But, and I really like Southgate, it was kind of his fault. He’s got to learn from it now and take us one step further next year. We don’t need penalties, we can beat Italy in 90 mins next time. When a football team lose it's always the managers fault, it goes with the territory. Personally I think he got his starting formation wrong and backed himself into a corner. My comment was more based on the vitriol that he is now facing after being the first England manager in most of our lifetimes to get us to a major final.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 23:08:12 GMT
I have more issues with an England manager playing for penalties tbh. I’ve never liked Southgate and think he’s been far too negative all tournament but tonight was a masterclass in it . Have to agree, hard to criticise a final appearance but he’s an awful manager who’s rode his luck. Tonight needed incisive decision making and he got it wrong from the kick off. Mason Mount awful tournament, first name on team sheet. Only a year to suffer him till after World Cup . I like Mount but agree. Was easily the worst player in the semi. No way he should have started tonight then needed hooking at half time. Not subbing Saka in extra time too. Southgate has done way better than I expected but ultimately he’s come a cropper exactly how I expected. Through sheer cowardice when it comes to using the fantastic attacking talent on offer to him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 23:08:54 GMT
But, and I really like Southgate, it was kind of his fault. He’s got to learn from it now and take us one step further next year. We don’t need penalties, we can beat Italy in 90 mins next time. When a football team lose it's always the managers fault, it goes with the territory. Personally I think he got his starting formation wrong and backed himself into a corner. My comment was more based on the vitriol that he is now facing after being the first England manager in most of our lifetimes to get us to a major final. But it was his fault 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:10:24 GMT
When a football team lose it's always the managers fault, it goes with the territory. Personally I think he got his starting formation wrong and backed himself into a corner. My comment was more based on the vitriol that he is now facing after being the first England manager in most of our lifetimes to get us to a major final. But it was his fault 😂 Strange quote, when I'd already said that.
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Post by chuckrocky on Jul 11, 2021 23:11:08 GMT
Linekar bang on here.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 11, 2021 23:11:20 GMT
Strange quote, when I'd already said that. I thought you were being sarcastic sorry!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:13:39 GMT
But, and I really like Southgate, it was kind of his fault. He’s got to learn from it now and take us one step further next year. We don’t need penalties, we can beat Italy in 90 mins next time. When a football team lose it's always the managers fault, it goes with the territory. Personally I think he got his starting formation wrong and backed himself into a corner. My comment was more based on the vitriol that he is now facing after being the first England manager in most of our lifetimes to get us to a major final. absolutely. before the Germany game was in general -WTF is he doing on this MB then a genius after . to be fair tonight he did get it wrong and was obvious before hand- we're all smart managers after the event but the way it goes. Mancini was miles ahead of him tonight but a great coach with a great team, nothing to be ashamed of.
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Post by franklin on Jul 11, 2021 23:13:47 GMT
There are none so blind as those who will not see, we could see it coming but unfortunately he couldn't or didn't want to see it. Others change when things aren't working we don't we dither and allow fear of losing to dictate how we play lacks courage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2021 23:13:51 GMT
Shame the shithouse daren't say it when he's in front of the cameras really.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 11, 2021 23:14:45 GMT
Having these players with Southgate is a waste.
A Low or Mancini in charge and we win something.
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Post by generationex on Jul 11, 2021 23:18:41 GMT
Rashford’s first touch of the tournament was basically a penalty. No pressure then Gareth.
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