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Post by lawrieleslie on May 4, 2021 12:32:51 GMT
Murdered in cold blood by being bludgeoned to death. Go back 6 weeks after the murder of Sarah Everard. Notice the difference in public reaction....wonder why that is?? Is it because Julia was a PCSO and Sarah was a marketing executive. It’s baffling to me.
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 4, 2021 12:37:57 GMT
Both truly horrific. The public reaction is generally linked to the amount of column inches/air time these stories get I would suggest, tragically I've not seen anywhere near the coverage for this particular story......
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 4, 2021 12:59:16 GMT
"All professions matter"
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Post by xchpotter on May 4, 2021 13:09:23 GMT
I still think there is some yet to be seen link or connection with the Everard case and either the media or someone high up somewhere. Any murder is tragic for the victim and family, but sadly they are only too common and unless it’s high profile or children, it quickly gets lost in other news. Why the Everard case achieved the profile it did, I’m not sure but I don’t think it was solely to do with the alleged perpetrator.
RIP Julia.
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2021 13:48:44 GMT
Hang on, I thought all cops were bastards?
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Post by Dutchpeter on May 4, 2021 14:08:20 GMT
Murdered in cold blood by being bludgeoned to death. Go back 6 weeks after the murder of Sarah Everard. Notice the difference in public reaction....wonder why that is?? Is it because Julia was a PCSO and Sarah was a marketing executive. It’s baffling to me. Sarah Everard was young and attractive and from London is pretty much the answer. No one would have give a shit if she was fat and rats. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 4, 2021 15:04:16 GMT
Murdered in cold blood by being bludgeoned to death. Go back 6 weeks after the murder of Sarah Everard. Notice the difference in public reaction....wonder why that is?? Is it because Julia was a PCSO and Sarah was a marketing executive. It’s baffling to me. Sarah Everard was young and attractive and from London is pretty much the answer. No one would have give a shit if she was fat and rats. My argument at the time was to bring up Lorraine Cox's disappearance and subsequent butchering. Apparently she wasn't worth caring about by comparison as the case didn't fit the narrative of those telling the story. |
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Post by Northy on May 4, 2021 15:31:39 GMT
Sarah Everard was young and attractive and from London is pretty much the answer. No one would have give a shit if she was fat and rats. My argument at the time was to bring up Lorraine Cox's disappearance and subsequent butchering. Apparently she wasn't worth caring about by comparison as the case didn't fit the narrative of those telling the story. First I've heard of her, I just looked it up, just horrific |
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Post by sheds1862 on May 4, 2021 16:14:54 GMT
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Post by felonious on May 4, 2021 16:24:05 GMT
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2021 16:38:03 GMT
Which is why her tragic death was politicised by anarchists and thugs- another opportunity to bash the police. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 4, 2021 16:51:11 GMT
This. So sad that it just gave those who already have an in-bedded dislike of police the excuse to use it to fuel their hatred. There’s been a lot of talk over the last year regarding prejudice / Racism as their should be and if it’s challenged in the right way it’s a positive thing. It’s a shame that prejudice being challenged doesn’t extend to a persons occupation. Of course when the hatred is fuelled by the media it doesn’t help. It takes many forms. |
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Post by metalhead on May 4, 2021 21:41:38 GMT
This. So sad that it just gave those who already have an in-bedded dislike of police the excuse to use it to fuel their hatred. There’s been a lot of talk over the last year regarding prejudice / Racism as their should be and if it’s challenged in the right way it’s a positive thing. It’s a shame that prejudice being challenged doesn’t extend to a persons occupation. Of course when the hatred is fuelled by the media it doesn’t help. It takes many forms. This is a joke right? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 4, 2021 21:50:21 GMT
This. So sad that it just gave those who already have an in-bedded dislike of police the excuse to use it to fuel their hatred. There’s been a lot of talk over the last year regarding prejudice / Racism as their should be and if it’s challenged in the right way it’s a positive thing. It’s a shame that prejudice being challenged doesn’t extend to a persons occupation. Of course when the hatred is fuelled by the media it doesn’t help. It takes many forms. This is a joke right? That prejudice can take many forms? Definition. Prejudice refers to a preconceived judgment, opinion or attitude directed toward certain people based on their membership in a particular group. It is a set of attitudes, which supports, causes, or justifies discrimination. Prejudice is a tendency to over categorize. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the animal that murdered Everard was pure evil but doesn’t represent the police he just happened to be a police officer in the same way that Shipman happened to be a doctor and Allit a nurse. There are bad people in every profession. |
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Post by chuffedstokie on May 5, 2021 12:28:57 GMT
Second last piece on beeb lunchtime news about a candle vigil last night, then move on.
Have they lost interest already 😕
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Post by hoffgreen on May 5, 2021 14:41:20 GMT
Second last piece on beeb lunchtime news about a candle vigil last night, then move on. Have they lost interest already 😕 Where were the candlelit vigils, balloon releases, marches and kumbayas for Lorraine Cox or April Jones? When you look at the perpetrators it all makes sense. Doesn't fit the disgusting MSM anti white British narrative. |
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Post by mattyd2 on May 5, 2021 15:04:25 GMT
Second last piece on beeb lunchtime news about a candle vigil last night, then move on. Have they lost interest already 😕 Where were the candlelit vigils, balloon releases, marches and kumbayas for Lorraine Cox or April Jones? When you look at the perpetrators it all makes sense. Doesn't fit the disgusting MSM anti white British narrative. Been like that for years. Not just here either, it's rife in The USA. It's as if it doesn't matter upsetting white folk, as they wont protest... |
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Post by metalhead on May 5, 2021 17:11:03 GMT
That prejudice can take many forms? Definition. Prejudice refers to a preconceived judgment, opinion or attitude directed toward certain people based on their membership in a particular group. It is a set of attitudes, which supports, causes, or justifies discrimination. Prejudice is a tendency to over categorize. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the animal that murdered Everard was pure evil but doesn’t represent the police he just happened to be a police officer in the same way that Shipman happened to be a doctor and Allit a nurse. There are bad people in every profession. Seems the police have their fair share of animals don't they? It's a job that seems to appeal to a more disturbed type, wouldn't you agree? Like I said, all we need is that evaluation. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 5, 2021 17:15:06 GMT
Her story was getting a lot more air time before that was revealed, in fact I’d say it’s been quickly brushed under the carpet as soon as the killer was revealed to be a copper? |
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Post by felonious on May 5, 2021 17:57:19 GMT
Her story was getting a lot more air time before that was revealed, in fact I’d say it’s been quickly brushed under the carpet as soon as the killer was revealed to be a copper? Isn't that more because they don't want to prejudice the trial? |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 5, 2021 18:43:11 GMT
That prejudice can take many forms? Definition. Prejudice refers to a preconceived judgment, opinion or attitude directed toward certain people based on their membership in a particular group. It is a set of attitudes, which supports, causes, or justifies discrimination. Prejudice is a tendency to over categorize. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the animal that murdered Everard was pure evil but doesn’t represent the police he just happened to be a police officer in the same way that Shipman happened to be a doctor and Allit a nurse. There are bad people in every profession. Seems the police have their fair share of animals don't they? It's a job that seems to appeal to a more disturbed type, wouldn't you agree? Like I said, all we need is that evaluation. i rest my case. |
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Post by 828492 on May 5, 2021 21:28:57 GMT
Snowdown is a small village near to the site of Snowdown Colliery. Most of the miners at Snowdown lived in the nearby village of Aylesham.
Some of the workers at Snowdown had connections with the Potteries. The colliery closed in 1987.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 5, 2021 21:54:02 GMT
Her story was getting a lot more air time before that was revealed, in fact I’d say it’s been quickly brushed under the carpet as soon as the killer was revealed to be a copper? Isn't that more because they don't want to prejudice the trial? Perhaps. So how could Sarah Everard be more about the perpetrator if people didn’t know who it was? This is all a perfect example of the internet and our news feeds being ecosystems of our own creation. |
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Post by felonious on May 6, 2021 6:01:29 GMT
Isn't that more because they don't want to prejudice the trial? Perhaps. So how could Sarah Everard be more about the perpetrator if people didn’t know who it was? This is all a perfect example of the internet and our news feeds being ecosystems of our own creation. There's a difference between the authorities closing down after a suspect has been charged and the internet stopping talking about the subject. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 6, 2021 7:14:12 GMT
Perhaps. So how could Sarah Everard be more about the perpetrator if people didn’t know who it was? This is all a perfect example of the internet and our news feeds being ecosystems of our own creation. There's a difference between the authorities closing down after a suspect has been charged and the internet stopping talking about the subject. There's also a difference between somebody being missing for a week and somebody being found dead. Not everything is part of a widespread agenda. |
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Post by metalhead on May 6, 2021 10:42:04 GMT
Seems the police have their fair share of animals don't they? It's a job that seems to appeal to a more disturbed type, wouldn't you agree? Like I said, all we need is that evaluation. i rest my case. If we turn it around though, you could argue that I'm basically stereotyping right? There's a saying... 'stereotypes exist for a reason', rightly or wrongly. We shouldn't stereotype individuals, but the reality is that the stereotype of police officers being bent power hungry violent psychopaths only exists because there is a disproportionate over-representation of such. I mean, you lot have all been watching Line of Duty for the past how many weeks? It's a TV show that more or less glorifies corruption within the police and celebrates the success of a task force setup to stop it. You realize that anti-corruption task forces don't exist in other occupations right? I mean, they do.... but only the ones that suffer from widespread corruption (banking, for example). People don't believe there is widespread systemic corruption within the police because they got done for speeding a few years ago. It's because there is ample evidence to suggest that there is. People don't believe that being a police officer appeals to the more seasoned 'bottom set maths' jobsworth with an unhealthy taste for violence because police officers are overwhelmingly lovely characters. It's because they go round kicking incapacitated men in the forehead. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2021 18:18:33 GMT
If we turn it around though, you could argue that I'm basically stereotyping right? There's a saying... 'stereotypes exist for a reason', rightly or wrongly. We shouldn't stereotype individuals, but the reality is that the stereotype of police officers being bent power hungry violent psychopaths only exists because there is a disproportionate over-representation of such. I mean, you lot have all been watching Line of Duty for the past how many weeks? It's a TV show that more or less glorifies corruption within the police and celebrates the success of a task force setup to stop it. You realize that anti-corruption task forces don't exist in other occupations right? I mean, they do.... but only the ones that suffer from widespread corruption (banking, for example). People don't believe there is widespread systemic corruption within the police because they got done for speeding a few years ago. It's because there is ample evidence to suggest that there is. People don't believe that being a police officer appeals to the more seasoned 'bottom set maths' jobsworth with an unhealthy taste for violence because police officers are overwhelmingly lovely characters. It's because they go round kicking incapacitated men in the forehead. i’m not going to waffle on but i find the frustrating side to your argument is not that there are bad eggs within the police force (of course there are) but that you tar all officers as being the same without evidence. There are 143k officers in the U.K.. That’s a huge number, of course there will be a very small percentage that are corrupt but i refuse to believe that they’re huge in number. |
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Post by Orbs on May 6, 2021 18:23:48 GMT
Snowdown is a small village near to the site of Snowdown Colliery. Most of the miners at Snowdown lived in the nearby village of Aylesham. Some of the workers at Snowdown had connections with the Potteries. The colliery closed in 1987. Nice one. Then what happened? |
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Post by metalhead on May 6, 2021 19:01:22 GMT
If we turn it around though, you could argue that I'm basically stereotyping right? There's a saying... 'stereotypes exist for a reason', rightly or wrongly. We shouldn't stereotype individuals, but the reality is that the stereotype of police officers being bent power hungry violent psychopaths only exists because there is a disproportionate over-representation of such. I mean, you lot have all been watching Line of Duty for the past how many weeks? It's a TV show that more or less glorifies corruption within the police and celebrates the success of a task force setup to stop it. You realize that anti-corruption task forces don't exist in other occupations right? I mean, they do.... but only the ones that suffer from widespread corruption (banking, for example). People don't believe there is widespread systemic corruption within the police because they got done for speeding a few years ago. It's because there is ample evidence to suggest that there is. People don't believe that being a police officer appeals to the more seasoned 'bottom set maths' jobsworth with an unhealthy taste for violence because police officers are overwhelmingly lovely characters. It's because they go round kicking incapacitated men in the forehead. i’m not going to waffle on but i find the frustrating side to your argument is not that there are bad eggs within the police force (of course there are) but that you tar all officers as being the same without evidence. There are 143k officers in the U.K.. That’s a huge number, of course there will be a very small percentage that are corrupt but i refuse to believe that they’re huge in number. I'll end by saying that I maintain my belief that it's a large minority. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 6, 2021 19:13:58 GMT
i’m not going to waffle on but i find the frustrating side to your argument is not that there are bad eggs within the police force (of course there are) but that you tar all officers as being the same without evidence. There are 143k officers in the U.K.. That’s a huge number, of course there will be a very small percentage that are corrupt but i refuse to believe that they’re huge in number. I'll end by saying that I maintain my belief that it's a large minority. and what about the small majority are they ok  |
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