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Post by felonious on Apr 28, 2021 8:32:48 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 28, 2021 10:38:43 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 28, 2021 10:44:32 GMT
If Labour don't walk this with bumbling Boris wrecking the country they might as well disband the party.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 28, 2021 10:50:07 GMT
There is no good winner of this by election.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 28, 2021 10:53:29 GMT
There is no good winner of this by election. The incredible flying brick might be a good shout. Hear he has some good ideas  But yeah I would tend to agree with you. |
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Post by adri2008 on Apr 28, 2021 11:08:50 GMT
Tories will take this seat comfortably imo unless all this sleaze stuff has cut through to the electorate which is doubtful
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 28, 2021 12:13:14 GMT
And here are the results of the Hartleppol by-election ( if you squint your eyes):
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 28, 2021 12:21:58 GMT
If it goes blue as expected, presumably Starmer has to walk?
It will be a clear example that the old red wall is still firmly blue and that Labour is totally useless.
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 28, 2021 12:58:14 GMT
Due to the broadening of speech during our present times it will now be referred to as a Bi-election.
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 28, 2021 12:59:03 GMT
I mean, it could go either way.
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Post by bucknall67 on Apr 28, 2021 14:21:31 GMT
Labour are in trouble I think.
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Post by felonious on Apr 28, 2021 14:54:05 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 28, 2021 14:56:20 GMT
Labour are in trouble I think. Never mind heh...... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 28, 2021 20:21:06 GMT
The Tories by 700/800 is my prediction......
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 29, 2021 6:41:49 GMT
If it goes blue as expected, presumably Starmer has to walk? It will be a clear example that the old red wall is still firmly blue and that Labour is totally useless. He'll literally be up to his neck in political excrement, while other members of the party are queuing up to literally stab him in the back. But to answer your question, no. Want to bet!? |
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 29, 2021 8:14:10 GMT
If it goes blue as expected, presumably Starmer has to walk? It will be a clear example that the old red wall is still firmly blue and that Labour is totally useless. He'll literally be up to his neck in political excrement, while other members of the party are queuing up to literally stab him in the back. But to answer your question, no. Want to bet!? Don't you blame Brexit  |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 29, 2021 8:18:34 GMT
If it goes blue as expected, presumably Starmer has to walk? It will be a clear example that the old red wall is still firmly blue and that Labour is totally useless. He'll literally be up to his neck in political excrement, while other members of the party are queuing up to literally stab him in the back. But to answer your question, no. Want to bet!? Isn't the entire party permanently up to its neck in excrement? What's new! |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 29, 2021 10:28:05 GMT
He'll literally be up to his neck in political excrement, while other members of the party are queuing up to literally stab him in the back. But to answer your question, no. Want to bet!? Isn't the entire party permanently up to its neck in excrement? What's new! It literally is Want to bet that Starmer doesn't resign when the Tories win Hartlepool? Or was it just more histrionics  |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 29, 2021 12:06:04 GMT
Isn't the entire party permanently up to its neck in excrement? What's new! It literally is Want to bet that Starmer doesn't resign when the Tories win Hartlepool? Or was it just more histrionics I love how you keep talking about bets yet when someone puts one on the table for you (as per our Brexit debate) you absolutely shit yourself and disappear 😂 Why would I care about betting on Starmer resigning? I couldnt care less either way.. If anything its better for the Conservatives if he remained as leader of the opposition - He's completely ineffective and his polling is atrocious. |
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Post by franklin on Apr 29, 2021 13:04:49 GMT
I've voted for Jeff Stelling.
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Post by riverman on Apr 29, 2021 13:07:14 GMT
Is the monkey up again this year? Or has he been hung out to dry?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 29, 2021 14:53:23 GMT
Lets not beat about the bush and however they try and spin it, losing Hartlepool would be a disaster for Starmer and his insipid brand of Tory Lite, opposition without opposition. He has purged the PLP and driven away members in their tens of thousands who were willing to invest shoe leather for the cause come election time.
Of course they will blame Corbyn and refer to 2019 in their po-faced statements on Friday morning but the facts are these, since losing power in 2010, Labour have won 22 of 24 by-election defences. The two they lost had massive local factors at play in Bradford and Copeland. To lose Hartlepool really would be a sacking offence.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 29, 2021 16:15:06 GMT
Lets not beat about the bush and however they try and spin it, losing Hartlepool would be a disaster for Starmer and his insipid brand of Tory Lite, opposition without opposition. He has purged the PLP and driven away members in their tens of thousands who were willing to invest shoe leather for the cause come election time. Of course they will blame Corbyn and refer to 2019 in their po-faced statements on Friday morning but the facts are these, since losing power in 2010, Labour have won 22 of 24 by-election defences. The two they lost had massive local factors at play in Bradford and Copeland. To lose Hartlepool really would be a sacking offence. Labour lost Hartlepool at the last election, only a brexit party 'name' in Tice standing there splitting the brexit vote stopped it falling then thats just a massive local factor as the two you mentioned. Not that that stops Starmer being any less wank and ineffective. I suspect this image wont look so clever next week..... |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 29, 2021 16:58:08 GMT
Lets not beat about the bush and however they try and spin it, losing Hartlepool would be a disaster for Starmer and his insipid brand of Tory Lite, opposition without opposition. He has purged the PLP and driven away members in their tens of thousands who were willing to invest shoe leather for the cause come election time. Of course they will blame Corbyn and refer to 2019 in their po-faced statements on Friday morning but the facts are these, since losing power in 2010, Labour have won 22 of 24 by-election defences. The two they lost had massive local factors at play in Bradford and Copeland. To lose Hartlepool really would be a sacking offence. Labour lost Hartlepool at the last election, only a brexit party 'name' in Tice standing there splitting the brexit vote stopped it falling then thats just a massive local factor as the two you mentioned. Not that that stops Starmer being any less wank and ineffective. I suspect this image wont look so clever next week..... One can only speculate what the 2019 election result would have been had the Brexit Party and their cowardly piece of shit leadership stood in constituencies with sitting Tory MP's. Still they've got themselves a shit Brexit so you can only laugh. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 29, 2021 17:12:27 GMT
It literally is Want to bet that Starmer doesn't resign when the Tories win Hartlepool? Or was it just more histrionics I love how you keep talking about bets yet when someone puts one on the table for you (as per our Brexit debate) you absolutely shit yourself and disappear 😂 Why would I care about betting on Starmer resigning? I couldnt care less either way.. If anything its better for the Conservatives if he remained as leader of the opposition - He's completely ineffective and his polling is atrocious. You said presumably Starmer has to walk if Labour loses Hartlepool. I wondered if you fancied betting on it? |
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Post by Soro's Sorrows on Apr 29, 2021 19:52:28 GMT
Labour lost Hartlepool at the last election, only a brexit party 'name' in Tice standing there splitting the brexit vote stopped it falling then thats just a massive local factor as the two you mentioned. Not that that stops Starmer being any less wank and ineffective. I suspect this image wont look so clever next week..... One can only speculate what the 2019 election result would have been had the Brexit Party and their cowardly piece of shit leadership stood in constituencies with sitting Tory MP's. Still they've got themselves a shit Brexit so you can only laugh. They might have won a few seats, then formed an alliance with the Tory's and dominated the house. Corbyn would still be a useless old anti-semite has been and brexit would still be done. Not much different really. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 29, 2021 21:11:30 GMT
One can only speculate what the 2019 election result would have been had the Brexit Party and their cowardly piece of shit leadership stood in constituencies with sitting Tory MP's. Still they've got themselves a shit Brexit so you can only laugh. They might have won a few seats, then formed an alliance with the Tory's and dominated the house. Corbyn would still be a useless old anti-semite has been and brexit would still be done. Not much different really. Interesting and completely incorrect take. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 30, 2021 6:32:58 GMT
Labour lost Hartlepool at the last election, only a brexit party 'name' in Tice standing there splitting the brexit vote stopped it falling then thats just a massive local factor as the two you mentioned. Not that that stops Starmer being any less wank and ineffective. I suspect this image wont look so clever next week..... One can only speculate what the 2019 election result would have been had the Brexit Party and their cowardly piece of shit leadership stood in constituencies with sitting Tory MP's. Still they've got themselves a shit Brexit so you can only laugh. You can speculate all you like but one of the most heartening things about this country is I am sure whatever it would not have ended with Steptoe as prime minister who can ever forget the brilliance of Labours vote for us we will agree a brexit deal and then have another referendum where we will campaign against our own deal, 100% idiotic genius ! But at least the NHS is safe with Labour, well apart from their prospective mp who was on a gp commissioning body that decided to close hartlepool a&e, could be worse he might be an ardent remainer in the most brexity part of the uk ohhhhh...... |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 30, 2021 7:49:56 GMT
One can only speculate what the 2019 election result would have been had the Brexit Party and their cowardly piece of shit leadership stood in constituencies with sitting Tory MP's. Still they've got themselves a shit Brexit so you can only laugh. You can speculate all you like but one of the most heartening things about this country is I am sure whatever it would not have ended with Steptoe as prime minister who can ever forget the brilliance of Labours vote for us we will agree a brexit deal and then have another referendum where we will campaign against our own deal, 100% idiotic genius ! But at least the NHS is safe with Labour, well apart from their prospective mp who was on a gp commissioning body that decided to close hartlepool a&e, could be worse he might be an ardent remainer in the most brexity part of the uk ohhhhh...... Carry on justifying, incompetence, corruption, cronyism, racism, sewer like public standards, gaslighting and a dangerous and shit Brexit. They need their gullible but extremely useful idiots!  |
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Post by felonious on Apr 30, 2021 7:55:52 GMT
You can speculate all you like but one of the most heartening things about this country is I am sure whatever it would not have ended with Steptoe as prime minister who can ever forget the brilliance of Labours vote for us we will agree a brexit deal and then have another referendum where we will campaign against our own deal, 100% idiotic genius ! But at least the NHS is safe with Labour, well apart from their prospective mp who was on a gp commissioning body that decided to close hartlepool a&e, could be worse he might be an ardent remainer in the most brexity part of the uk ohhhhh...... Carry on justifying, incompetence, corruption, cronyism, racism, sewer like public standards, gaslighting and a dangerous and shit Brexit. They need their gullible but extremely useful idiots! Did your man lose Sheiky? |
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But yeah I would tend to agree with you.
