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Post by nonameface on Dec 26, 2020 23:01:10 GMT
How much would he cost to sign?
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Post by nonameface on Dec 26, 2020 23:01:59 GMT
Pickering is having a fantastic season, he's made the step up to league one without any issues. He can also play, LWB, Left Mid and as a central midfielder. I'd definitely give him a go, we'd possibly get him for 750k and his wages would be bugger all. Surely he'd be way more than that?
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 26, 2020 23:08:17 GMT
I wonder if MON would consider a left back as a wasted loan?. I think he considers he has more pressing needs in his January recruitment?.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 26, 2020 23:08:52 GMT
Pickering is having a fantastic season, he's made the step up to league one without any issues. He can also play, LWB, Left Mid and as a central midfielder. I'd definitely give him a go, we'd possibly get him for 750k and his wages would be bugger all. Surely he'd be way more than that? Doubt it. Crewe have not sold a player for any notable value since Luke Murphy who went to Leeds for £1m 7 years ago. Preston had a fee of 300,000 agreed with crewe for James Jones 3 years ago (who was there best player at the time) but it fell through due to injury concerns. They need the money and wouldn't be in a position to refuse 750k.
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 27, 2020 0:13:26 GMT
Pickering is having a fantastic season, he's made the step up to league one without any issues. He can also play, LWB, Left Mid and as a central midfielder. I'd definitely give him a go, we'd possibly get him for 750k and his wages would be bugger all. Surely he'd be way more than that? That’s good money for a league 1 player at the moment. No gate revenue for the foreseeable future will take its toll on lower league clubs.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 27, 2020 10:24:21 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-january-transfer-window-4834537Injury to one player forced Michael O’Neill to change the shape of the whole team.
With no Morgan Fox, Stoke suddenly play a back four. With wing-backs, Tommy Smith was almost automatically recalled on the right and it was harder to give a cameo to a winger like Thibaud Verlinden.
The manager has always made it clear that in an ideal world he would like two players fighting for every position – but the world he walked into and the squad he inherited was far from ideal.
Stoke are going to need to sign a left-back at some stage pretty soon to cover or compete with Fox and it’s become ever more prescient – and the right-back situation, where Collins has been operating and with one eye on Tom Edwards’s form at Fleetwood, isn’t far behind.
There’s no point bringing in anyone to make up numbers, these are positions that can make a real impact under O’Neill and it will be interesting to see if Alex Aldridge and Andy Cousins can pull any names from their little black books in January to make an immediate impact.
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Post by nonameface on Dec 27, 2020 10:39:33 GMT
Surely he'd be way more than that? That’s good money for a league 1 player at the moment. No gate revenue for the foreseeable future will take its toll on lower league clubs. Fair enough, with James Justin having gone for £8m fairly recently I would have still thought they'd be looking for more. It's a shame we have FFP holding us back because you could really see him being the type MON would go for.
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 27, 2020 10:47:03 GMT
Be really interesting who he does go for, if anyone. Will it be an experienced type, short gap, or a younger more long term option to offer Fox some competition?. Whatever happened to Ryan Corrigan, is he injured?.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 27, 2020 13:38:12 GMT
If only we'd been making these type of signings when we had a bit of room to flex our financial muscles theathletic.co.uk/1907701/2020/07/04/klopp-transfers-werner-neco-williams-mane-firmino/Interestingly, one such option who may be a better fit already is 21-year-old Harry Pickering, who plays for Crewe, a team recently promoted to League One.
His pizza chart below shows a player very similar to Robertson in his ability to link play, retain the ball, defend and importantly attack by getting the ball forward and getting scoring chances for himself, all at high levels. His attacking attributes contributed to his three goals and five assists from left-back this season.
A left-back from Crewe is definitely a bit of a leftfield choice but represents the sort of value that Liverpool strive to identify in the transfer market
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Post by chamberlain on Dec 27, 2020 13:46:38 GMT
If only we'd been making these type of signings when we had a bit of room to flex our financial muscles Exactly ,instead we got the likes of Stephen Ward
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 21:32:19 GMT
Pickering hatesStoke
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 22:28:41 GMT
Doubt he’d care too much if they tripled his wage. Unless the club ruined his life, it’s unlikely that childhood hatred for a team would matter more than money (if we are even in for him).
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 27, 2020 22:30:36 GMT
Doubt he’d care too much if they tripled his wage. Unless the club ruined his life, it’s unlikely that childhood hatred for a team would matter more than money (if we are even in for him). Whoooosh
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 28, 2020 0:09:06 GMT
Shows why you need 2 players for every position. No way can you get through a 46-game season with one left-back...it'd be a miracle to keep him fit for every game. You can't have 2 players for every position for every system though
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Post by bgreen13 on Dec 28, 2020 0:10:00 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 28, 2020 0:47:55 GMT
He'll get on with Nick Powell then
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 28, 2020 6:18:42 GMT
Shows why you need 2 players for every position. No way can you get through a 46-game season with one left-back...it'd be a miracle to keep him fit for every game. You can't have 2 players for every position for every system though No, but left back is kind of essential don't you think!?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 28, 2020 16:02:46 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-news-gossip-4837410But again, slightly bizarrely, with Morgan Fox’s injury against Spurs, his priority now has to be finding an actual left-back to fill that gaping hole until Fox’s return in late February.
In fact, it could be argued that Stoke’s performance at Coventry was entirely predicated on O’Neill having to completely rejig the team to cope with Fox’s absence and the lack of a player to suitably fill the left-back role amongst the squad.
Neither Josh Tymon nor James McClean have proven successful there in the past and are clearly far more suited in other positions. So, perhaps, instead of having to go with safety first and a back three in a winnable game at St Andrew’s, O’Neill can, with a left-back in the team, set Stoke up with more ambition, with two wingers, rather than wing-backs, which might bring Verlinden into the frame a lot more.
That can only be a good thing.
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Post by TinkerT on Dec 28, 2020 16:05:45 GMT
I hate vale but if they offered me 3x my wages I'd play for em 😂
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Post by wazbagsbro on Dec 28, 2020 16:15:04 GMT
The same bull shit was said about Powel before he signed. These are professional footballers not kids (I hope)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 16:22:30 GMT
I think I need to order a can of whoosh on Amazon but guess you had to be there
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 30, 2020 19:00:34 GMT
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Post by marwood on Dec 30, 2020 19:04:40 GMT
Just need two players fighting for every position who hate Stoke and we’ll be laughing
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 30, 2020 19:13:52 GMT
Omar Richards has been getting rave reviews at Reading this season and is out of contract in the Summer.
He’s been linked with a move to the Premier League though so is probably a bit unrealistic for us.
We’ve surely got to be looking at someone like Pickering though, would almost certainly be within our budget and looks to have everything a modern full back needs.
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Post by lordb on Dec 30, 2020 19:17:03 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 30, 2020 19:22:58 GMT
He isn't specific - but tough to think of any players we wouldn't be bothered about losing that there'd be a queue for on their salaries www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-january-transfer-window-4843248 “We’ve got a little bit of room to manoeuvre but I think people know the situation we have at the club in terms of Financial Fair Play and the rules of that which we have to abide by.
“Where we are at this minute in time is that we probably have to generate money out of the squad, which means players leaving the club.
“We’ve done that in the previous two windows with more players leaving than coming in. This window, while it might not be as stringent as the previous two, we’ll have to look at our options and left-back certainly becomes a priority now and we need something dynamic at the top end of the pitch as well.”
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 30, 2020 19:27:04 GMT
Sanctioning them leaving and anyone wanting the fuckers are two different things but I would imagine Ince and Vokes as well as Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer. McClean as well maybe if someone was interested?
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 30, 2020 19:49:15 GMT
Sanctioning them leaving and anyone wanting the fuckers are two different things but I would imagine Ince and Vokes as well as Lindsay, Bauer and Wimmer. McClean as well maybe if someone was interested? Hard to see any of that lot as shiftable, realistically, isn't it? Maybe Lindsay if we paid a chunk of his wages and he went back to Scotland or a lower Champ team? Ince, McClean and Vokes have 18 months left on God knows what - and who's going to take either of the Austrian Untouchables when they haven't played for a year? Hopefully we're aware of some interest in someone.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 30, 2020 19:55:55 GMT
Maybe a bit controversial - but maybe Tymon and Verlinden are the 2 that are most expendable that teams would have some interest in now - if we wanted to create even some marginal space on the wage bill?
I like them both - but both seem very peripheral (in Tymon's case now the midfielders are geting back to fitness, and in Verlinden's case because MON seemingly doesn't fancy him at all)
Just can't see any interest in any of our £25k-a-week crew.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 30, 2020 19:58:14 GMT
Maybe a bit controversial - but maybe Tymon and Verlinden are the 2 that are most expendable that teams would have some interest in now - if we wanted to create even some marginal space on the wage bill? Just can't see any interest in any of our £25k-a-week crew. Wouldn’t surprise me if Verlinden was loaned out.....
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