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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 21, 2020 14:49:38 GMT
Captain Morgans rum success?
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Post by Miles Offside on Dec 21, 2020 18:03:37 GMT
Fox has played a bit better of late, but overall he's just not very good.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 22, 2020 9:06:43 GMT
I thought he played well in a back three with Souttar and Chester, was poor in the Derby and QPR games when he switched to left back but had a very good game there against Blackburn. Perhaps like Brown he's suffering from his own versatility and struggling for consistency because he's having to keep adapting his game. For the moment O'Neill appears to be favouring a back 4 so maybe he'll get his chance to establish himself as a left back - especially as Tymon and McClean are probably more suited to a wing back role.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 22, 2020 11:43:58 GMT
I thought he played well in a back three with Souttar and Chester, was poor in the Derby and QPR games when he switched to left back but had a very good game there against Blackburn. Perhaps like Brown he's suffering from his own versatility and struggling for consistency because he's having to keep adapting his game. For the moment O'Neill appears to be favouring a back 4 so maybe he'll get his chance to establish himself as a left back - especially as Tymon and McClean are probably more suited to a wing back role. The only role Tymon is suited to is in Central midfield.
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Post by moon on Dec 22, 2020 11:49:35 GMT
Tymon and McClean are probably more suited to a wing back role. I hope we never see either of them at wing back again, they are both decent players but neither of them should be at LWB. Tymon seems better as a DM or in a more advanced role on the left but he is exposed defensively when playing as LB / LWB.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 11:54:22 GMT
Best left back we've had since Danny Collins.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 22, 2020 12:50:23 GMT
He doesnt seem well liked on this messageboard but I think he hardly puts a foot wrong defensively. On top of that his crosses have been excellent and he has a number of assists now. Hes not a world beater but he a solid enough left-back, ill give him some plaudits Wouldn't worry to much about what some people say on here, Peters had his fair share of knockers as well, yet he was the best defensive left back we've had in a good while, but people oversaw that, because they were way more concerned with his crossing than his defensive side!!! What some people have to get into their heads is..... If we had a full back who was good at everything (like they seem to want, defending, getting forward, crossing, etc), HE WOULDN'T BE AT STOKE!!! 🤷🏼♂️
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Post by mickstupp on Dec 22, 2020 12:55:02 GMT
He doesnt seem well liked on this messageboard but I think he hardly puts a foot wrong defensively. On top of that his crosses have been excellent and he has a number of assists now. Hes not a world beater but he a solid enough left-back, ill give him some plaudits Wouldn't worry to much about what some people say on here, Peters had his fair share of knockers as well, yet he was the best defensive left back we've had in a good while, but people oversaw that, because they were way more concerned with his crossing than his defensive side!!! What some people have to get into their heads is..... If we had a full back who was good at everything (like they seem to want, defending, getting forward, crossing, etc), HE WOULDN'T BE AT STOKE!!! 🤷🏼♂️ I have to wonder what people were expecting when we signed him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Dec 22, 2020 13:10:33 GMT
Wouldn't worry to much about what some people say on here, Peters had his fair share of knockers as well, yet he was the best defensive left back we've had in a good while, but people oversaw that, because they were way more concerned with his crossing than his defensive side!!! What some people have to get into their heads is..... If we had a full back who was good at everything (like they seem to want, defending, getting forward, crossing, etc), HE WOULDN'T BE AT STOKE!!! 🤷🏼♂️ I have to wonder what people were expecting when we signed him. I think the trouble with a lot of posters is that they either want a 'name' or a young exciting player which means if you don't fit into either of those categories or are over 30 even if you are a name they recognise(eg Chester) you are going to be rubbish.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2020 16:34:55 GMT
He doesnt seem well liked on this messageboard but I think he hardly puts a foot wrong defensively. On top of that his crosses have been excellent and he has a number of assists now. Hes not a world beater but he a solid enough left-back, ill give him some plaudits Wouldn't worry to much about what some people say on here, Peters had his fair share of knockers as well, yet he was the best defensive left back we've had in a good while, but people oversaw that, because they were way more concerned with his crossing than his defensive side!!! What some people have to get into their heads is..... If we had a full back who was good at everything (like they seem to want, defending, getting forward, crossing, etc), HE WOULDN'T BE AT STOKE!!! 🤷🏼♂️ I like Fox but that last sentence is nonsense. A lot of the other sides in this league manage it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2020 16:35:44 GMT
I have to wonder what people were expecting when we signed him. I think the trouble with a lot of posters is that they either want a 'name' or a young exciting player which means if you don't fit into either of those categories or are over 30 even if you are a name they recognise(eg Chester) you are going to be rubbish. Chester is rubbish though. This supposed dislike of Fox seems a myth anyway!
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 22, 2020 17:18:02 GMT
Wouldn't worry to much about what some people say on here, Peters had his fair share of knockers as well, yet he was the best defensive left back we've had in a good while, but people oversaw that, because they were way more concerned with his crossing than his defensive side!!! What some people have to get into their heads is..... If we had a full back who was good at everything (like they seem to want, defending, getting forward, crossing, etc), HE WOULDN'T BE AT STOKE!!! 🤷🏼♂️ I like Fox but that last sentence is nonsense. A lot of the other sides in this league manage it. Such as???
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2020 17:30:43 GMT
He's as average as an average Championship player can be. And I don't mean that to be as derogatory as it might sound.
A player that knows his job, isn't a 'square peg in a round hole', he doesn't try to be something he's not, knows his strengths and gives it his best. Has some lovely moments of quality, but he can get caught out of position on occasion, his passing can be shoddy, and his off-the-ball movement can be non-existent at times. (In no way is he alone in any of that.)
A solid player, works hard for the team and can put in a decent cross into dangerous areas. Never going to set the world alight, but he's proving himself to be a decent addition to the squad. Probably in the top 3 pieces of business (incomings) done by MON so far.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 22, 2020 18:00:02 GMT
I thought he played well in a back three with Souttar and Chester, was poor in the Derby and QPR games when he switched to left back but had a very good game there against Blackburn. Perhaps like Brown he's suffering from his own versatility and struggling for consistency because he's having to keep adapting his game. For the moment O'Neill appears to be favouring a back 4 so maybe he'll get his chance to establish himself as a left back - especially as Tymon and McClean are probably more suited to a wing back role. The only role Tymon is suited to is in Central midfield. That's worrying because I don't think Tymon's a very good central midfielder - just looks lost and doesn't get involved. The point I was making was that Fox doesn't really have much competition at left back and although he played well against Blackburn his best games have been in a central 3. That doesn't mean I think O'Neill should change the formation - although I do think we've looked better when we've played 532 and in particular I don't think 4231 has worked at all.
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 22, 2020 23:31:17 GMT
He's like a Championship Erik Pieters.
If he does half as well for us as Erik Pieters did, we will have a fine player.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 23, 2020 9:09:03 GMT
Fox is the "steady Eddie" kind of player, who I like by the way, never completely shite, but lacks pace to become the wing back racing up and down. That said he has put in some really decent crosses too. I must admit I've been very satisfied with this player, but was very sceptical when we brought him in. Good Championship player in my opinion!
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Post by hardcastle on Dec 23, 2020 10:40:53 GMT
If he's as decent a defender as Ekka (who got dogs abuse on here btw), he'll do for me. Full backs are primarily defenders, after all.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Dec 23, 2020 14:21:09 GMT
Perfect example for 'is what it is' Very solid, rarely makes mistakes. I don't think he should play with McClean in front of him, because at least someone should have technique/skill out there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2020 14:25:54 GMT
To be honest he's better than I've expected, I truly thought he'd be appalling but he is a usable squad player at this level which I'm happy enough with. Left back is still our priority imo but he's reasonable cover there or on the left in a back three.
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Post by Jimm on Dec 23, 2020 15:01:22 GMT
He's steady but fuck me he's slow
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 23, 2020 20:15:39 GMT
Bit of an indictment on the squad that one injury and we can no longer really play a back 4!
But we've got one LB on the books - so we're making progress.
Hopefully he isn't out for any length of time, or the need for another body at LB will become very pressing.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 23, 2020 20:16:47 GMT
If he is injured I think I’d put Smith there. McClean and Tymon hardly seem to thrive there.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2020 20:50:10 GMT
He looked like he wouldn’t have gone off if it was a league game imo. Looked very precautionary.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 24, 2020 9:44:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:19:15 GMT
He's done fine lately and another reason I hate these stupid League cup games especially in the current climate of so many games and injuries.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 26, 2020 17:34:06 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 26, 2020 17:34:48 GMT
Jesus Christ.
Left-back surely incoming then?
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Dec 26, 2020 17:37:22 GMT
More bad news
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Post by Veritas on Dec 26, 2020 17:37:24 GMT
So without signing a replacement left back we are not able to play a back 4 for the next 4-6 weeks.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 26, 2020 17:38:00 GMT
Well that's all we need, isn't it?
How on earth are all these injuries racking up?
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