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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 4, 2020 15:55:25 GMT
Just shit from 2pm onwards.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 4, 2020 15:56:47 GMT
We won't get promoted on this form
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 4, 2020 15:57:22 GMT
Definitely.. if he wasnt prepared to put Campbell on from the start it was obvious he should have done so earlier.
Too defensive in his mindset as far as I'm concerned
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 4, 2020 15:58:47 GMT
We won't get promoted on this form Plenty of time left but we look midtable at best, so far, in the League. Manager needs to step things up. |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 4, 2020 15:59:34 GMT
Aye.
I didn’t expect anything different though.
So infuriating.
We battered brum at home not that long ago.
Keep to the same formula.
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Post by toppercorner on Oct 4, 2020 15:59:39 GMT
Yes, i do think that was poor from MON
Our midfield was incredibly poor today, and he took way too long to make changes.
Clucas, nightmare
Mikel, off the pace completely
TOB, weak and unconvincing
Tymon, couldn't control anything today
I don't want to appear to be the 'hating', because i've seen those players do it so much better this season. Just today, they were cumulatively bad, and second to the ball every time.
Last 20 odds mins with campbell and powell and we were all over them.
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 4, 2020 15:59:45 GMT
Mediocre season ahead.
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Post by franklin on Oct 4, 2020 16:00:09 GMT
He needs to grow a pair.
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Post by TinkerT on Oct 4, 2020 16:01:11 GMT
We played some good stuff first half, different day we would go in 2 goals in front. Second half we were terrible, that's down to the manager. They came into the game first 10-15 of second half and should have changed it much earlier.
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Post by pavel on Oct 4, 2020 16:01:45 GMT
Just shit from 2pm onwards. It’s been too many times already this season in the league and it’s mostly down to O’ Neils tactics and selections. |
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Post by Uttoxstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:01:54 GMT
We arent going anywhere fast. No creativity in that team he put out today. Where the hell was brown, mcclean, campbell and powell against a bang average birmingham side at home! Awful.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 4, 2020 16:02:06 GMT
Four games in the league now and we’ve managed two goals and I can’t remember the opposition keeper having to make a save in any of them.
It’s scandalous with the attacking options we have available.
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Post by milky on Oct 4, 2020 16:02:36 GMT
I'd love to know his reasoning for changing it.
Ironically this is what I thought he would be like when he first came but it was a pleasant surprise that we started to score freely.
Now he seems to be sending us out to try and sneak 1 nil wins a la Tone in his prime.
Its baffling !
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 16:03:59 GMT
This system has produced 2 great away underdog performances
And 2 dogshit games against well-drilled mid-table Championship fodder.
Jury's got to be well and truly out, especially if Campbell and Powell are going to be on the outside looking in.
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Post by chigstoke on Oct 4, 2020 16:04:16 GMT
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:04:44 GMT
Just shit from 2pm onwards. I just dont understand what goes through his head when we are playing at home. People will call players out, but most of today was down to the manager and his formation Very frustrating that the chnages only made after we went 1 down, even though we never looked like scoring and even more frustrating they were straight swaps and the rigid formation was steadfastly stuck too. Sure some of the players were below par but it is the bloody formation more than anything for me |
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:04:54 GMT
Not convinced we need three central defenders at home in the Championship.
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Post by dadger on Oct 4, 2020 16:05:45 GMT
Negative gross
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 16:06:29 GMT
I think he's just had too much time on his hands over the early weeks of lockdown and just started overthinking things.
Absolutely no need for it.
We were spnking teams 3, 4 and 5 last spring.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:07:10 GMT
This system has produced 2 great away underdog performances And 2 dogshit games against well-drilled mid-table Championship fodder. Jury's got to be well and truly out, especially if Campbell and Powell are going to be on the outside looking in. You could add Brown to that with his pace, given how off Clucas was today and also Thompson for a clearly knackered Mikel (3 games in a week). |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 4, 2020 16:07:26 GMT
The first 20 minutes was a disgrace and set the tone of the game.
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Post by stokerstayinup on Oct 4, 2020 16:07:43 GMT
O'Neill has been excellent for us but he's gone back to being the N.Ireland manager for some reason.Just don't get it,we had play off numbers under his management last season.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 4, 2020 16:08:35 GMT
It's what I call "waiting to concede" tactics. Even against shit teams that have zero attacking threat like Brum, it's not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2020 16:09:25 GMT
I lost count of the amount of times I heard Nigel Johnson say stoke walking out with the ball!! Walking!!! As bad as the managers selections are, these are bastard professionals walking around a pitch. Lazy wankers
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Post by wakeypotter on Oct 4, 2020 16:09:49 GMT
This system has produced 2 great away underdog performances And 2 dogshit games against well-drilled mid-table Championship fodder. Jury's got to be well and truly out, especially if Campbell and Powell are going to be on the outside looking in. But was only great at Preston after they had a man sent off |
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Post by jeycov on Oct 4, 2020 16:15:11 GMT
Typical Stoke over the last 2 weeks
Play well as underdogs and beat teams in higher league
Poor performances against mid table Championship teams
If he’s playing players on merit then Campbell and Powell need to start, Clucas needs to be dropped
No cup game for a while so no excuse for too many changes
Players need to be playing as a team, not as individuals who are trying to impress for their place
We rescued a point
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 4, 2020 16:16:33 GMT
I think he's just had too much time on his hands over the early weeks of lockdown and just started overthinking things. Absolutely no need for it. We were spnking teams 3, 4 and 5 last spring. That’s the frustrating thing. We hammered brum at home end of last season. It was bad today. We looked lost. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 4, 2020 16:16:38 GMT
O'Neill has been excellent for us but he's gone back to being the N.Ireland manager for some reason.Just don't get it,we had play off numbers under his management last season. Very odd as it's very rare you can nudge and nurdle your way to promotion, isn't it? That Northern Ireland mentality isn't really suited to a promotion push. If we took the lead, we'd obviously be fine in games like this - the problem is we haven't looked like taking the lead in either home game so far. And we have no desire to force the issue like we were doing last season |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Oct 4, 2020 16:17:54 GMT
Painful to watch.
Hard to get enthused about anything in that game.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 4, 2020 16:18:20 GMT
Surely there’s no defending using this system at home now?
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