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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2019 22:54:29 GMT
He is part of the Board isn’t he? How many times has he said that he negotiates contracts- he’s the only CEO in the country who has no input into business management is he? And that’s exactly the point. He’s the CEO! The buck stops with him, that’s why he’s paid what he is..... Bang on right. The MD holds ultimate responsibility for everything. If the production director on a Pot Bank fowls things up, he gets fired (no pun intended), as does the MD that appointed him (if the fowl up is very serious). It's no using whining that the MD can't be expected to know all of the ins and outs of how a piece of pottery is made. Of course not - that is why he appoints someone that does - the production director.
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Post by standbutler1 on Dec 26, 2019 22:55:26 GMT
just f..k him off
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Post by ursemboys on Dec 26, 2019 22:56:39 GMT
I recon the players would have heard it and actually enjoyed it, especially if its true about win bonus's
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 26, 2019 23:04:22 GMT
I just hope that if Scholes brought his family round for the Boxing Day atmosphere that they were seated in such a place that they couldn't hear the chanting. I wonder if those who did chant gave any thought to how it might sound for those people? You pre-suppose that those responsible have a reasonable standard of thinking skills. Not very nice. Not very nice at all. Oddly enough I don’t recall them singing his praises when we were winning, which following the logic he must have been responsible for.
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Post by stokefc on Dec 26, 2019 23:09:23 GMT
I just hope that if Scholes brought his family round for the Boxing Day atmosphere that they were seated in such a place that they couldn't hear the chanting. I wonder if those who did chant gave any thought to how it might sound for those people? what, in all the emotion of the game going from a winning position to then losing..again ,when the chant starts we,re supposed to stop,think and wonder if teflons family is in the stand so we don,t hurt their feelings ,yeah ok mate
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 26, 2019 23:13:13 GMT
I just hope that if Scholes brought his family round for the Boxing Day atmosphere that they were seated in such a place that they couldn't hear the chanting. I wonder if those who did chant gave any thought to how it might sound for those people? what, in all the emotion of the game going from a winning position to then losing..again ,when the chant starts we,re supposed to stop,think and wonder if teflons family is in the stand so we don,t hurt their feelings ,yeah ok mate Yes mate. It’s called common decency. I bet your mum is proud of you. What a loser.
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Post by stokefc on Dec 26, 2019 23:18:37 GMT
what, in all the emotion of the game going from a winning position to then losing..again ,when the chant starts we,re supposed to stop,think and wonder if teflons family is in the stand so we don,t hurt their feelings ,yeah ok mate Yes mate. It’s called common decency. I bet your mum is proud of you. What a loser. it wasn,t even insulting get a grip man 750k p/a or whatever he earns i bet he,s really upset
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 26, 2019 23:21:08 GMT
what, in all the emotion of the game going from a winning position to then losing..again ,when the chant starts we,re supposed to stop,think and wonder if teflons family is in the stand so we don,t hurt their feelings ,yeah ok mate Yes mate. It’s called common decency. I bet your mum is proud of you. What a loser. Jesus Christ!
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Post by sd22 on Dec 26, 2019 23:36:13 GMT
For me the perfect day.
Beers flowing, cracking support for the team, decent Scholes out chant, 3 points!!!
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Post by sheriffofrockridge on Dec 26, 2019 23:41:37 GMT
The chant was about as lame as the majority of this season's performances.
Quite fitting.
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Post by chicagostokie on Dec 26, 2019 23:46:30 GMT
I hope his entire family were there and that they could hear every word.
This man has no shame and is a disgrace. The sooner he gets out of our club the better. No other club (not to mention business), would suffer such incompetence across all areas of responsibility, from a high paid executive.
SCHOLES OUT
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Post by GoBoks on Dec 27, 2019 0:15:41 GMT
As stated in his radio interview before the Blackburn game the recruitment process for the latest manager is just the same as it’s been for all of the others. Absolute fucking arrogance from the person responsible for appointing one dud after another. If you keep on doing the same thing over and over again why the fuck do you expect different results Scholes? But I guess Scholes didn’t appoint himself did he? He didn’t stick with himself through every diabolical decision did he? So he’s not going to sack himself for utter incompetence either is he? BM Are you complaining about the selection of the manager that has won 4 out of 9 games with the same bunch that couldn't score, couldn't win and couldn't play?
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Post by wagstand on Dec 27, 2019 0:30:55 GMT
Whatever you all think about Scholes I understand but please , you don’t need to start singing that shite when we are are at a crucial stage of a crucial match and playing really well. Look at the bigger picture and safe your agendas for another day.
Got to a be a top 10 game at the Brit for me, only if if you stayed to the end, not like some of the usual moaning bastards who were already half way home when we got what we deserved
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 0:33:36 GMT
Whatever you all think about Scholes I understand but please , you don’t need to start singing that shite when we are are at a crucial stage of a crucial match and playing really well. Look at the bigger picture and safe your agendas for another day. Got to a be a top 10 game at the Brit for me, only if if you stayed to the end, not like some of the usual moaning bastards who were already half way home when we got what we deserved They left early? Oh no!
But then they had probably been to the Bet365.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2019 0:34:02 GMT
Whatever you all think about Scholes I understand but please , you don’t need to start singing that shite when we are are at a crucial stage of a crucial match and playing really well. Look at the bigger picture and safe your agendas for another day. Got to a be a top 10 game at the Brit for me, only if if you stayed to the end, not like some of the usual moaning bastards who were already half way home when we got what we deserved Rubbish. He’s the biggest problem at this club and he needs to know. It was a perfect time for it. The team were in the process of bottling it again, he needs to go.
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Post by bertiestan on Dec 27, 2019 3:06:23 GMT
He still needs fucking off sharpish
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Post by tomcmod on Dec 27, 2019 3:26:22 GMT
I just hope that if Scholes brought his family round for the Boxing Day atmosphere that they were seated in such a place that they couldn't hear the chanting. I wonder if those who did chant gave any thought to how it might sound for those people? I take it you have never booed a Stoke player, an opposition player or a match official at any match?
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Post by tomcmod on Dec 27, 2019 3:28:54 GMT
Fans not giving the players stick but the CEO, whom some players may not like won't have a negative affect on the players. It could make some of the players happy or possibly even the manager......
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Post by shipshape on Dec 27, 2019 6:55:32 GMT
what, in all the emotion of the game going from a winning position to then losing..again ,when the chant starts we,re supposed to stop,think and wonder if teflons family is in the stand so we don,t hurt their feelings ,yeah ok mate Yes mate. It’s called common decency. I bet your mum is proud of you. What a loser. My mum gave me an extra mince pie for my pudding when I told her I joined in.
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 27, 2019 7:14:31 GMT
No excuse for not singing it.
It will have absolutely zero effect on the players one way or the other. Not like we'd be singing to the rafters otherwise is it?
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Post by StaffordPotter on Dec 27, 2019 8:10:23 GMT
Whatever you all think about Scholes I understand but please , you don’t need to start singing that shite when we are are at a crucial stage of a crucial match and playing really well. Look at the bigger picture and safe your agendas for another day. Got to a be a top 10 game at the Brit for me, only if if you stayed to the end, not like some of the usual moaning bastards who were already half way home when we got what we deserved I think it was the perfect time, a lot of people at our club have gotten off lightly with criticism over the last few years. So fuck him, the weasel deserves everything he gets.
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 27, 2019 8:10:55 GMT
As stated in his radio interview before the Blackburn game the recruitment process for the latest manager is just the same as it’s been for all of the others. Absolute fucking arrogance from the person responsible for appointing one dud after another. If you keep on doing the same thing over and over again why the fuck do you expect different results Scholes? But I guess Scholes didn’t appoint himself did he? He didn’t stick with himself through every diabolical decision did he? So he’s not going to sack himself for utter incompetence either is he? BM Are you complaining about the selection of the manager that has won 4 out of 9 games with the same bunch that couldn't score, couldn't win and couldn't play? He is. Incredible isn’t it. We really do have some of the thickest fans on the planet.
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Post by chicagostokie on Dec 27, 2019 8:59:09 GMT
Are you complaining about the selection of the manager that has won 4 out of 9 games with the same bunch that couldn't score, couldn't win and couldn't play? He is. Incredible isn’t it. We really do have some of the thickest fans on the planet. Says a man trying to defend Scholes. Ironic.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 27, 2019 9:14:29 GMT
Can't see Scholes going anytime soon, not whilst Coates Jr. Is in charge anyway.
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Post by shipshape on Dec 27, 2019 9:14:48 GMT
Are you complaining about the selection of the manager that has won 4 out of 9 games with the same bunch that couldn't score, couldn't win and couldn't play? He is. Incredible isn’t it. We really do have some of the thickest fans on the planet. Please, using your favourite felt-tip pen, highlight the section of the OP that is complaining about the team selections of the current manager.
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Post by colnepotter on Dec 27, 2019 9:29:52 GMT
He is. Incredible isn’t it. We really do have some of the thickest fans on the planet. Please, using your favourite felt-tip pen, highlight the section of the OP that is complaining about the team selections of the current manager. He was alleging that Tony Scholes had made a balls up in recruiting this manager.....do keep up
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Post by Gods on Dec 27, 2019 9:30:27 GMT
And that’s exactly the point. He’s the CEO! The buck stops with him, that’s why he’s paid what he is..... Bang on right. The MD holds ultimate responsibility for everything. If the production director on a Pot Bank fowls things up, he gets fired (no pun intended), as does the MD that appointed him (if the fowl up is very serious). It's no using whining that the MD can't be expected to know all of the ins and outs of how a piece of pottery is made. Of course not - that is why he appoints someone that does - the production director. I'm not sure that analogy quite works, most football clubs don't have an all powerful Chief Exec like a corporate company would have. They tend to have Owners with a handle on the purse strings and a Manager responsible for the coaching team and in turn the playing side. Its why you often hear fans of other clubs demanding the head of the manager or the owner but almost never the Chief Exec People get incensed if results are bad but not so much if the finances fail audit, or ticket prices rise, or the bovril is not hot or the stand extension overruns and so on. It's a big title and a generous salary but he's not all powerful. I would say if you want to hang him out to dry then it would be around recent appointments if the head coach, but he is not sole decision maker on that, just another board member.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 27, 2019 9:32:46 GMT
Bang on right. The MD holds ultimate responsibility for everything. If the production director on a Pot Bank fowls things up, he gets fired (no pun intended), as does the MD that appointed him (if the fowl up is very serious). It's no using whining that the MD can't be expected to know all of the ins and outs of how a piece of pottery is made. Of course not - that is why he appoints someone that does - the production director. I'm not sure that analogy quite works, most football clubs don't have an all powerful Chief Exec like a corporate company would have. They tend to have Owners with a handle on the purse strings and a Manager responsible for the coaching team and in turn the playing side. Its why you often hear fans of other clubs demanding the head of the manager or the owner but almost never the Chief Exec People get incensed if results are bad but not so much if the finances fail audit, or ticket prices rise, or the bovril is not hot or the stand extension overruns and so on. We do though so I don’t see where it fails to hold up?
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Post by shipshape on Dec 27, 2019 9:36:07 GMT
Please, using your favourite felt-tip pen, highlight the section of the OP that is complaining about the team selections of the current manager. He was alleging that Tony Scholes had made a balls up in recruiting this manager.....do keep up Oh is he? I thought he was suggesting that Scholes was saying the same methods were used to recruit O'Neill as Jones. And why would they be different as the methods that recruited Jones worked so brilliantly.
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Post by Gods on Dec 27, 2019 9:39:52 GMT
I'm not sure that analogy quite works, most football clubs don't have an all powerful Chief Exec like a corporate company would have. They tend to have Owners with a handle on the purse strings and a Manager responsible for the coaching team and in turn the playing side. Its why you often hear fans of other clubs demanding the head of the manager or the owner but almost never the Chief Exec People get incensed if results are bad but not so much if the finances fail audit, or ticket prices rise, or the bovril is not hot or the stand extension overruns and so on. We do though so I don’t see where it fails to hold up? Yes we have a bloke with that title but it doesn't mean his role is the same as Mark Zuckerburg. Hound him out and see if it makes you feel better but in doing so all you are really doing is attacking the owners who clearly believe he carries out the role okay in so far as they see it. The owners are where the buck stops.
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