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Joe Allen
Aug 6, 2019 12:05:22 GMT
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Post by sergeifaye on Aug 6, 2019 12:05:22 GMT
Is this the same Joe Allen who played 190 odd times for Swansea right at the time they were bombing up the leagues? Is this the same Joe Allen who played 91 times for Liverpool? Is this the same Joe Allen who helped Wales get to the Euro Semi Finals? Is this the same Joe Allen who was banging them in for fun when he first signed and Hughes was playing him further forward? I don't recall anyone calling him sh!/e then! His game hasnt changed to my eyes since then so all of a sudden he's become a bad player? Our main issue in my eyes is we've got nobody to hold the ball up and play off. I'm not saying play long ball but when the ball gets in the final 3rd it comes straight back because Afobe and Vokes are useless at it. They maybe good at playing off a target man (wouldnt know cause I haven't seen it) but they're absolutely useless at holding the ball up. Compare them to Akinibiyi & Noel William or Sidibe and Fuller and I could cry. We aren't scoring goals plain and simple. We scored a few in pre season but against lower level teams. Blaming our better players isn't going to help. Etebo coming back is going to be massive. I just hope he wants to be here. Plus this diamond won't work. Anybody with a brain will do what QPR did and set up with wide players. I've got serious reservations about Jones. I saw in another thread somebody call him a Snake Oil Salesman and I'm afraid they might be right. Completely agree on JA, well said. He was a fans favourite there too, so we can't just say he hoodwinked managers. I'm just not sure what an attack minded midfielder is supposed to do at Stoke when forwards refuse to move, or trap it! It must be a very confusing place to go to work, in Stoke's midfield. We haven't had anything close to a decent striker since Crouch of about 4 years ago. When Arnie left, that just made things even worse again. (Thought that comment - re snake oil salesman - was harsh on NJ though - i think he is open and honest and wears his heart on his sleave. He takes responsibility fully. He may just not be equipped for this challlenge, as its a big one, but we'll see soon enough. Long thought we need an Allardyce infusion for a year or two to boss our board of dimwits and cronies.). It all went wrong when Arnautovic left. We've never replaced him, his goals and his creativity. We've tried with cheap and/or bad boy options but its failed miserably.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Aug 6, 2019 12:07:29 GMT
I actually laughed out loud in my seat when he was given man of the match on Saturday.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Aug 6, 2019 12:09:40 GMT
I actually laughed out loud in my seat when he was given man of the match on Saturday. Same.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 31, 2019 15:31:11 GMT
We're clearly shoehorning him in again.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 31, 2019 15:31:55 GMT
We're clearly shoehorning him in again. He must have some elite level nudes of Jones.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 31, 2019 15:34:53 GMT
He's fucked up a piss easy shot (again), but the bigger issue is that he quite simply doesn't have a position!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2019 15:34:53 GMT
That miss today is shocking.
Hit it first time, it’s really simple.
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 15:36:11 GMT
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Post by neddy on Aug 31, 2019 15:36:11 GMT
He's fucked up a piss easy shot (again), but the bigger issue is that he quite simply doesn't have a position! I agree with that I don’t know where his best position to play is!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 15:38:40 GMT
He’s been non existent all game and if he is given a position. I’ll be damned if I know what it is as he’s no where.
The typical thick as fuck footballer.
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 15:50:53 GMT
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 31, 2019 15:50:53 GMT
The single worst footballer in the entire football league pyramid.
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 15:52:41 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 15:52:41 GMT
The single worst footballer in the entire football league pyramid. That could be any one of the 11 today
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 15:55:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 15:55:31 GMT
I actually don’t know what single positive feature he has?
Running around for 90 mins out of position isn’t one of them.
He can’t defend He can’t shoot He can’t pass He’s tactically clueless He’s not quick He’s not technical
I’ve been banging the drum since we signed him, he was never needed and we’ve sacrificed the midfield ever since just to play him.
It’s like playing with 10 men and he’s the main culprit as to why teams massively over run us in midfield.
Then to make it worse the guy playing next to him is exactly the same (Clucas)
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 15:59:59 GMT
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Post by ross1396 on Aug 31, 2019 15:59:59 GMT
I actually don’t know what single positive feature he has? Running around for 90 mins out of position isn’t one of them. He can’t defend He can’t shoot He can’t pass He’s tactically clueless He’s not quick He’s not technical I’ve been banging the drum since we signed him, he was never needed and we’ve sacrificed the midfield ever since just to play him. It’s like playing with 10 men and he’s the main culprit as to why teams massively over run us in midfield. Then to make it worse the guy playing next to him is exactly the same (Clucas) Worst player on the pitch for what 3rd year running
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Post by josefr on Aug 31, 2019 16:03:42 GMT
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Post by clarkeda on Aug 31, 2019 16:04:22 GMT
The last one in the back of his mind I think, which is why he takes the touch.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Aug 31, 2019 16:04:29 GMT
He's fucking wank.
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Post by davelistersdad on Aug 31, 2019 16:06:17 GMT
Said it for 3 seasons(and received mountains of abuse from the oatcake), he is among the top 2 worst players to play in a Stoke shirt since the Prem promotion, him and Kitson can fight it out between themselves who gets top spot.
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Post by Jimm on Aug 31, 2019 16:06:51 GMT
He's absolute wank and has been for years!
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 16:07:01 GMT
Joe was no worse than most of the team today.
Ward was the worst on the pitch(he really looks like he should have retired in the summer) and goal aside (which I know is a lot) Lindsay was awful.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 16:11:13 GMT
WTF
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Post by dirtygary69 on Aug 31, 2019 16:18:11 GMT
I’ve said a few times on here that although he doesn’t fit any of our midfield roles and never has, he wasn’t a bad player. I’ve changed my mind, he’s ghastly.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 31, 2019 16:20:03 GMT
Joe was no worse than most of the team today.
Ward was the worst on the pitch(he really looks like he should have retired in the summer) and goal aside (which I know is a lot) Lindsay was awful. Maybe not but its every week.
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Post by redwhite on Aug 31, 2019 16:22:13 GMT
Absolutely awful signing.
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 16:23:30 GMT
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Post by onionman on Aug 31, 2019 16:23:30 GMT
He was always a poor player, but something has gone on with his brain for him to hesitate like that with the open goal at his mercy.
He’s finished as a professional footballer and Jones’s refusal to accept this or seemingly even notice it is one of the main reasons he’s going to get sacked or take us down or both.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 16:27:05 GMT
Joe was no worse than most of the team today.
Ward was the worst on the pitch(he really looks like he should have retired in the summer) and goal aside (which I know is a lot) Lindsay was awful. Maybe not but its every week. There have probably been about half a dozen par performances from individual players this season. Allen has been poor. Who do you think has been good...or even OK?
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 16:28:50 GMT
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Post by nigerianstokie on Aug 31, 2019 16:28:50 GMT
Joe was no worse than most of the team today. Ward was the worst on the pitch(he really looks like he should have retired in the summer) and goal aside (which I know is a lot) Lindsay was awful. He cost us the game today with that miss. If that goes in, and Lindsay then scores, that firmly kills off Birmingham. He has been shite all season. He cost us 3 points vs Derby with an even easier chance. He’s a dogshit footballer. End of.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 31, 2019 16:28:55 GMT
I’ve played 5 a side with better footballers than him.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 31, 2019 16:29:08 GMT
I actually don’t know what single positive feature he has? Running around for 90 mins out of position isn’t one of them. He can’t defend He can’t shoot He can’t pass He’s tactically clueless He’s not quick He’s not technical I’ve been banging the drum since we signed him, he was never needed and we’ve sacrificed the midfield ever since just to play him. It’s like playing with 10 men and he’s the main culprit as to why teams massively over run us in midfield. Then to make it worse the guy playing next to him is exactly the same (Clucas) I said exactly that before the match as soon as I saw the line up. The midfield was a shambles. Maybe we can afford one player that roams around, but not two. The other managers must be licking their chops in anticipation of playing us.
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Joe Allen
Aug 31, 2019 16:30:13 GMT
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 31, 2019 16:30:13 GMT
He wasn't Headless today, he was anonymous, other than that sitter.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 31, 2019 16:30:29 GMT
He was always a poor player, but something has gone on with his brain for him to hesitate like that with the open goal at his mercy. He’s finished as a professional footballer and Jones’s refusal to accept this or seemingly even notice it is one of the main reasons he’s going to get sacked or take us down or both. Poor players don't play 90 odd games for Liverpool or get voted into the best 11 at the Euros. He is playing poorly like the rest of the team.
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