|
Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 26, 2019 9:46:56 GMT
I don't think it's that, more if Pieters doesn't fit into plans then how does Ward? He is basically the same player but older. I'm not arsed about Pieters either way but if you base it on age, I'd take Erik every single day. But Pieters was one of “those” who apparently needed fucking off ASAP yeah? I’m also not defending nor criticising Pieters I’m just pointing the oatcake fuckwittery out mate This bloke is apparently only on trial and can COVER a variety of positions if needed, Fuller has stated above that jones wants another left back so what’s wrong with this bloke IF he signs? Oh I agree and I think his time at Stoke has gone stale and there’s no way back for him. As I mentioned before Ward has actually seemed to play better as his career has gone on but I didn’t realise he played so little last year which would be a concern of mine. Back up I can live with but it’s another uninspiring one that again doesn’t really answer any of the issues we had last season.
|
|
|
Post by robwahlmann on Jun 26, 2019 9:49:43 GMT
It's been mentioned numerous times he'd be here as a backup.. But even as back up he doesn’t surely fit the criteria for the diamond formation that Jones obviously favours. He was a pretty average championship full back a decade ago and the role for that position has changed massively since then where a full back is required to get forward and create and not primarily be to defend first. I think Eric, McClean and Clucas are all better options at left back than Ward which is worrying Defensively I don't think they are. McClean loses his concentration far too often for my liking. To be honest he doesn't look like the brightest player either when it comes to decision making in genral.
|
|
|
Post by azz1784 on Jun 26, 2019 9:51:10 GMT
Read in the Mail JJ to Leicester a done deal £6m ,but he will immediately go out on loan to a championship club COULD that be US! I would love it to be us. I imagine if there is any thought of the player being loaned out straight away after signing then Luton may strike an agreement with Leicester when the signing goes through to lend him back for the season
|
|
|
Post by danceswithclams on Jun 26, 2019 9:51:23 GMT
Fuck me There are some mardarses on here He hasnt signed yet Give em time FFS Mardarses? On this messageboard? Shirley, you are joking? This is the same guy whose pants were sodden with torrents of piss yesterday as he cried about the club "being happy with its current situation" and "the future being bleak". Today however, in a complete he's calling people mardarses and extolling the virtues of patience
|
|
|
Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jun 26, 2019 9:52:11 GMT
With nothing being announced I'd suggest it's probably a trial to see what he can offer, no need for all this hysteria.
I'd imagine at his age it'll be a relatively cheap one year contract. He could do a job for us as a back-up, another good egg in the dressing room.
I met him at a McDonalds at the services after we'd played Burnley a few years back, he was very complimentary of Stoke as a club.
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 26, 2019 9:52:21 GMT
What an absolutely terrible signing this would be. In the system we want to play our full backs are going to be our most important players, and are going to have to take responsibility for getting a majority of our assists. Ward has 6 assists in 5 seasons. People coming out with the complete bullshit that he is back up, and I heard the same about Cousins too. Why on earth would Jones sign his back up before signing his starting. And even so, when we have to fall back on our reserves, are we going to play a completely different system?
|
|
|
Post by 11wilkosinateam on Jun 26, 2019 9:52:57 GMT
Decent signing
Nothing spectacular but a proper left back who is a seasoned professional.
Now a young pacey LB as well please
|
|
|
Post by azz1784 on Jun 26, 2019 9:54:57 GMT
But even as back up he doesn’t surely fit the criteria for the diamond formation that Jones obviously favours. He was a pretty average championship full back a decade ago and the role for that position has changed massively since then where a full back is required to get forward and create and not primarily be to defend first. I think Eric, McClean and Clucas are all better options at left back than Ward which is worrying Defensively I don't think they are. McClean loses his concentration far too often for my liking. To be honest he doesn't look like the brightest player either when it comes to decision making in genral. I’m definitely not a fan of McClean and even Clucas playing at left back I was merely pointing out that they are more suited to the demands of the role in getting forward and supporting the creative side of the team because if this formation is to work we are relying on a lot of chances being created by both full backs
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 26, 2019 9:55:09 GMT
Why is everyone so happy with us supposedly signing ‘backup’ players when our first 11 proved it wasn’t good enough last season and our squad is absolutely massive
|
|
|
Post by dreamtheater on Jun 26, 2019 9:57:33 GMT
Two words
Eric Pieters
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 26, 2019 9:58:43 GMT
He’s much, much better than Stephen Ward
|
|
|
Post by werrington on Jun 26, 2019 9:59:34 GMT
Why is everyone so happy with us supposedly signing ‘backup’ players when our first 11 proved it wasn’t good enough last season and our squad is absolutely massive You need a squad and your back up players may no longer be available if you hang around
|
|
|
Post by dreamtheater on Jun 26, 2019 10:02:00 GMT
He’s much, much better than Stephen Ward This signing a 34 yo Stephen Ward would be, beyond inexplicable - sorry but there you are
|
|
|
Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 26, 2019 10:02:47 GMT
Some posters never ever learn
|
|
|
Post by onefatcopper on Jun 26, 2019 10:02:50 GMT
At this time of year, clubs will expect free agent after free agent turning up at their training grounds hoping that they might just impress enough to earn a contract. The free agent will split the country into regions, then spend four days hitting the West Midlands or the Northwest etc, At the same time the players agent will be phoning clubs home and abroad to arrange a trial for their player, it’s a case that if you want to carry on playing you have to hit the road .
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 26, 2019 10:03:31 GMT
Why is everyone so happy with us supposedly signing ‘backup’ players when our first 11 proved it wasn’t good enough last season and our squad is absolutely massive You need a squad and your back up players may no longer be available if you hang around We have back up players, Clucas, McClean, Tymon can all do a job there if needed. I can’t see anyone in a massive rush to sign Ward
|
|
|
Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Jun 26, 2019 10:05:34 GMT
Wasn't he something to do with the Profumo Affair?
|
|
|
Post by dreamtheater on Jun 26, 2019 10:05:42 GMT
just completely mystified by this one in truth
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 10:10:07 GMT
Not saying i'm excited in anyway, but I can see the managers possible interest, as he's mentioned plenty of times about wanting to add players with promotion histories on there CV'S, hence the two Barnsley lads plus Gregory and Powell. Checking Wards CV he's also been involved quite a few promoted squads.
|
|
|
Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 26, 2019 10:10:09 GMT
What an absolutely terrible signing this would be. In the system we want to play our full backs are going to be our most important players, and are going to have to take responsibility for getting a majority of our assists. Ward has 6 assists in 5 seasons. People coming out with the complete bullshit that he is back up, and I heard the same about Cousins too. Why on earth would Jones sign his back up before signing his starting. And even so, when we have to fall back on our reserves, are we going to play a completely different system? The first flaw in your argument is that we haven't signed him - he is on trial. For all you know, if he is signed, he may not be signed until another left back is signed. The second flaw is that, whilst in an ideal world, you would sign your first choice and then your second choice, we don't live in an ideal world. In the real world managers sign players when they are available whether they be first or second choice. The really important thing is that Jones has said he wants two specialists for each position and it is pretty clear that this includes two left backs.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 10:13:27 GMT
And at least he's a genuine left back, I'm totally sick of square pegs in round holes. All this shit about Clucas McClean and Indi can do a job there, it just doesn't work two specialists for each position is a far better solution and hopefully a young athletic LB will also be added.
|
|
|
Post by onionman on Jun 26, 2019 10:13:46 GMT
Finally we have our Nigel Worthington replacement.
|
|
|
Post by dreamtheater on Jun 26, 2019 10:14:25 GMT
The other thing I'd offer - If this guy has indeed turned up today, I hear Mike Pejic is still a pretty fit guy too --------
|
|
|
Post by wearepremierleague on Jun 26, 2019 10:15:52 GMT
What an absolutely terrible signing this would be. In the system we want to play our full backs are going to be our most important players, and are going to have to take responsibility for getting a majority of our assists. Ward has 6 assists in 5 seasons. People coming out with the complete bullshit that he is back up, and I heard the same about Cousins too. Why on earth would Jones sign his back up before signing his starting. And even so, when we have to fall back on our reserves, are we going to play a completely different system? The first flaw in your argument is that we haven't signed him - he is on trial. For all you know, if he is signed, he may not be signed until another left back is signed. The second flaw is that, whilst in an ideal world, you would sign your first choice and then your second choice, we don't live in an ideal world. In the real world managers sign players when they are available whether they be first or second choice. The really important thing is that Jones has said he wants two specialists for each position and it is pretty clear that this includes two left backs. My first flaw isn’t a flaw at all then because I said what a terrible signing it ‘would be ‘. Our back up players should be young hungry players wanting to make a name for themselves. Not 33 year olds who played a grand total of 3 matches last year, no matter how much of a ‘specialist’ he is. In addition if he has Cousins as a ‘specialist’ defensive midfielder, why hasn’t he been playing there for the last 3 seasons?
|
|
|
Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 26, 2019 10:19:59 GMT
Some posters never ever learn Learn what though? I try my best not to moan but you can hardly say those that do (no matter how annoying and repetitive it can get) have been proven wrong over the past few years. When you look at how we've operated and failed over the last few years, it's hardly surprising there's murmurs of discontent when we sign players (granted, he may only be on trial).
|
|
|
Post by cobhamstokey on Jun 26, 2019 10:24:08 GMT
He’d be a decent squad player if he signs. He can cover LB and CB and is a good egg. If it comes to him being a pacey up and down attacking LB he doesn’t fit the bill.
|
|
|
Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 26, 2019 10:31:07 GMT
The club are acting like they've walked into a pound shop for the first time and think they've cracked life. Buy cheap, pay twice!
|
|
|
Post by josephstalin on Jun 26, 2019 10:31:29 GMT
Pieters positional play was shite when we were in the premier league, I don't understand the wank fest for him.
|
|
|
Post by cheadlestokie on Jun 26, 2019 10:33:56 GMT
He was a regular at left back for Burnley up to last season and only, I think, lost his place to the current incumbent due to injury. I never had a particularly good impression of Ward from Wolves but when I watched him for Burnley in televised matches I did think he did a decent job, especially going forward.
|
|
|
Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 26, 2019 10:35:12 GMT
Some posters never ever learn Learn what though? I try my best not to moan but you can hardly say those that do (no matter how annoying and repetitive it can get) have been proven wrong over the past few years. When you look at how we've operated and failed over the last few years, it's hardly surprising there's murmurs of discontent when we sign players (granted, he may only be on trial). Mate I’ve been there and done it myself and been made to look a right dick.Forget the premiership days they’re long gone,we now need a TEAM that will make us competitive in this league and challenging for play offs/promotion.It takes time just like the majority of clubs have found out when coming down from the prem. The teams built by Macari and Pulis prove that team ethic(not big names) is the way to go.Judge Jones and his signings and the team he builds over a period of time
|
|