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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:38:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 26, 2019 8:40:08 GMT
Oooooh the polar opposite of plan A.
God have mercy on our souls.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:40:54 GMT
Hopefully this guy is the back-up - he's nearly 34 and barely featured for Burnley last year!
If so, where this leaves McClean is anyone's guess
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Post by bassmaster on Jun 26, 2019 8:41:05 GMT
Oooooh the polar opposite of plan A. God have mercy on our souls. And our arseholes...
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Post by datguy on Jun 26, 2019 8:42:30 GMT
Oooooh the polar opposite of plan A. God have mercy on our souls. He's nothing more than a back-up, surely?! But yeah, even as a back-up, there's no comparing JJ with this fella. We need pace. We need somebody willing to overlap everytime we go forward. God help us when the injuries hit us.
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Post by Northy on Jun 26, 2019 8:43:00 GMT
its not what we want, the complete opposite of young and hungry, I'd sooner have Erik back.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:43:04 GMT
Pete Smith suggests we'll be buying TWO left-backs.
So maybe not too much cause for panic if this guy is the back-up.
But it would leave zero role for McClean
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 26, 2019 8:44:03 GMT
Oooooh the polar opposite of plan A. God have mercy on our souls. He's nothing more than a back-up, surely?! But yeah, even as a back-up, there's no comparing JJ with this fella. We need pace. We need somebody willing to overlap everytime we go forward. God help us when the injuries hit us. You've got to hope so haven't you?
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Post by werrington on Jun 26, 2019 8:45:44 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions
People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here
Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:46:35 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet But we've only got ONE left-sided role in this system, Wez.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 26, 2019 8:46:42 GMT
He actually seems to have got better with experience, but not sure when experience just becomes old. I guess it's a solid enough signing for cover but it's another for the 'not very exciting' list.
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Post by toppercorner on Jun 26, 2019 8:47:55 GMT
i know zero about him, so not going to judge.
if we are piling in for left sided players but where does this leave the likes of Clucas and McClean?
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Post by Goonie on Jun 26, 2019 8:48:43 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet Championship status hasn't quite sunk in for some He's a backup surely?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:48:56 GMT
i know zero about him, so not going to judge. if we are piling in for left sided players but where does this leave the likes of Clucas and McClean? Clucas willget lots of minutes in midfield, you'd think. McClean? No idea, Back-up left-back seemed to be his only chance of seeing the pitch.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 26, 2019 8:49:25 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet The diamond has a left back and that's it. The key position. We've gone from a young hungry full back to Stephen Ward. It's just very Stoke.
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Post by walton corner on Jun 26, 2019 8:51:10 GMT
Pete Smith suggests we'll be buying TWO left-backs. So maybe not too much cause for panic if this guy is the back-up. But it would leave zero role for McClean Ah shame no role for McLean...
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Post by george2again on Jun 26, 2019 8:52:19 GMT
Clucus can play left back. What a waste of money again. Nathan Jones won't last till xmas is my guess. Having stated we need, energetic, pacey, athletic players hes gone completly opposite. Were already the slowest team on the planet and the 5/6 incomings dont help that at all. If the diamond is not perfectly polished we could be looking at a relegation battle. I have to say I never wanted him as manager and posted early in to his tenure I thought he had a low league mentality. This is filtering through now.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jun 26, 2019 8:53:20 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet The diamond has a left back and that's it. The key position. We've gone from a young hungry full back to Stephen Ward. It's just very Stoke. Yup. Just said as much on the transfer thread.
In fact it's the kind of signing you'd have expected ol' VT to have made.
What a damp squib on day 1.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 26, 2019 8:53:40 GMT
We need cover and as a cover he'll be OK, on a one-year-contract, but I would also want someone younger with more pace at left back. If he is released I guess we can get him for half the wages that Pieters have, but none of them is perfect in a diamond system as far as I can see it. I really hope we are watching someone else too! According to FIFA it actually looks like he is able to deliver decent crosses unlike someone else already on our books!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 26, 2019 8:54:26 GMT
The club are acting like they've walked into a pound shop for the first time and think they've cracked life.
Just a matter of time now for the shame of false economy and being mugged off to dawn on them.
Who will pay the price when it does?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:55:16 GMT
Clucus can play left back. What a waste of money again. Nathan Jones won't last till xmas is my guess. Having stated we need, energetic, pacey, athletic players hes gone completly opposite. Were already the slowest team on the planet and the 5/6 incomings dont help that at all. If the diamond is not perfectly polished we could be looking at a relegation battle. I have to say I never wanted him as manager and posted early in to his tenure I thought he had a low league mentality. This is filtering through now. Great post, loving the positivity 👍
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Post by kelw on Jun 26, 2019 8:55:34 GMT
No harm having a mix of younger players with experience .Ward has been here before and can fit in and has someone mentioned above has played some of his better football in recent games.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 8:56:58 GMT
Really glad we've gone after Ward.
Potentially the best left back in the league.
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Post by george2again on Jun 26, 2019 8:57:35 GMT
We need cover and as a cover he'll be OK, on a one-year-contract, but I would also want someone younger with more pace at left back. If he is released I guess we can get him for half the wages that Pieters have, but none of them is perfect in a diamond system as far as I can see it. really hope we are watching someone else! Surley the point is that Clucas certiany or McClean could cover left back, whay do we need to give a journeyman the job for a wage. McClean or Clucus mustbe off or its a complate waste of money.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 26, 2019 8:58:03 GMT
If he's here as a versatile back up option, I don't really see the issue. Concerns if he is first choice but it seems odd we'd go for him in that role if a young player like James Justin was the initial target.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 26, 2019 8:58:38 GMT
I don't really see a problem here - providing that we do sign another, younger, pacier attacking left back. I'm all for Jones's preference for having two specialists available for every position. That is a better option than having a load of versatile "jack of all trades" type of player who "can do a job in an emergency." Obviously you need one or two players who can play in an alternative position because you never know how injury/suspension can unbalance the squad - but the basic theory of two specialist players for each position in the squad is sound.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 8:59:19 GMT
www.transfermarkt.com/stephen-ward/leistungsdaten/spieler/34691On the positive side, he did feature for Burnley heavily in recent seasons and seems a good egg and all that. On the negative side, he was dropped like a stone last season and didn't feature after August - and will be 34 on August 20th. You can squint and see it making sense as a good character back-up. Not sure about his athleticism with the physical demands of the role at 34 though - that's just common sense
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jun 26, 2019 8:59:41 GMT
He can cover a variety of left side positions People losing their shit over absolutely anything or anybody on here Seriously the player some want hasn’t been invented yet The diamond has a left back and that's it. The key position. We've gone from a young hungry full back to Stephen Ward. It's just very Stoke. Jones has said he wants two players for every position. Tymon clearly isn’t ready and Pieters has no future under Jones so if Ward signs then we’re clearly after another LB. It’s pretty much pointless having your attitude at this stage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 9:01:20 GMT
Firstly, it looks as if he’s on trial. Secondly, we want to sign 2 LB’s he’d seem like a good choice backup. Tasted promotion twice, good character & adds experience to the dressing room. Don’t see what’s not to like.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 26, 2019 9:01:27 GMT
We need cover and as a cover he'll be OK, on a one-year-contract, but I would also want someone younger with more pace at left back. If he is released I guess we can get him for half the wages that Pieters have, but none of them is perfect in a diamond system as far as I can see it. really hope we are watching someone else! Surley the point is that Clucas certiany or McClean could cover left back, whay do we need to give a journeyman the job for a wage. McClean or Clucus mustbe off or its a complate waste of money. I really hope McClean is on the way out, so much commitment but so little class!
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