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Post by realstokebloke on Jun 26, 2019 9:21:58 GMT
Yup, that's the absolute top and bottom of it.
Even then, you've got to think we already have cover (SC who is a Jones keeper & even JMcM who, hopefully, might not be). You'd think it would makes a McClean departure almost inevitable?I don't think he would have been content to just fight for the odd bit of action at LB as it was. And now it's hard to see him getting any at all. There's a chance he could come on to add a bit of energy off the bench in a more advanced role every now and again - but don't think he's the type who will be happy with that - or just picking up his wages for nothing. I guess.
Every cloud eh, Grapey?
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Post by wuzza on Jun 26, 2019 9:22:04 GMT
He certainly fits the main criteria - no one was expecting him and most have never heard of him.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jun 26, 2019 9:23:22 GMT
We’ve gone from having Xherdan Shaqiri and Marko Arnautovic in our side to picking up Burnley rejects on a free.
In only three years.
Fucking Christ I knew we were going to get bought back down to earth a bit but I didn’t think it would be with this much of a bang.
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Post by infullerwetrust on Jun 26, 2019 9:24:05 GMT
Northern journo has tweeted that he is on trial. Also has played alongside Clucas
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 9:25:33 GMT
Ward can play both sides can't he? Fits the view of a backup perfectly.
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Jun 26, 2019 9:25:56 GMT
He can play upfront as well.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 9:26:03 GMT
You'd think it would makes a McClean departure almost inevitable? I don't think he would have been content to just fight for the odd bit of action at LB as it was. And now it's hard to see him getting any at all. There's a chance he could come on to add a bit of energy off the bench in a more advanced role every now and again - but don't think he's the type who will be happy with that - or just picking up his wages for nothing. Has Jones actually stated categorically, that his intention is to play with a diamond next season? Pretty sure he has - it certainly seems to have been taken as read? quick google shows this from the end of last season? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nathan-jones-diamond-stoke-city-2775140 “There’s not the players here who can play the diamond yet, we haven’t got the personnel yet. “We know we need a change in personnel to best achieve what we can. We attempted to do certain things and attempted to implement it but we had to be a bit more pragmatic. We’ve got results playing a system the players a bit more familiar with. If we’re going to play a diamond you need to recruit for a diamond. “The first four months at Luton I didn’t play it either because we didn’t have the personnel there either but we recruited for philosophy and that’s what we’re going to do from now. Then we’ll be a different group.”
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Post by realstokebloke on Jun 26, 2019 9:27:40 GMT
He can play upfront as well. Stop it ...
This is painful enough.
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Post by azz1784 on Jun 26, 2019 9:28:29 GMT
Ward is not the kind of player we need when the full back position is critical to creativity in a Jones diamond formation. The full backs have to be athletic and ideally have pace that we are crying out for in the side as well as being able to deliver a good ball. Although his crossing lets him down massively, Eric is far superior to Ward in all other aspects of the role and seems to be another step backwards for the squad. I hope I’m wrong but we need to have an ace or two up our sleeves that make the diamond tick otherwise it could be another long season. It's been mentioned numerous times he'd be here as a backup.. But even as back up he doesn’t surely fit the criteria for the diamond formation that Jones obviously favours. He was a pretty average championship full back a decade ago and the role for that position has changed massively since then where a full back is required to get forward and create and not primarily be to defend first. I think Eric, McClean and Clucas are all better options at left back than Ward which is worrying
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 26, 2019 9:28:56 GMT
Northern journo has tweeted that he is on trial. Also has played alongside Clucas Where's he played with Clucas?
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Post by datguy on Jun 26, 2019 9:29:17 GMT
Ward can play both sides can't he? Fits the view of a backup perfectly. With Jones' system you need a player with pace and energy willing to get forward ahead of the midfielders, always offering an overlap. I'm not sure a 33yr-old fits into that, even as a back-up. We need more of a youthful alternative.
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Post by werrington on Jun 26, 2019 9:30:18 GMT
So the oatcake MB who wanted Pieters fucked off are now wanting him back Jeez I don't think it's that, more if Pieters doesn't fit into plans then how does Ward? He is basically the same player but older. I'm not arsed about Pieters either way but if you base it on age, I'd take Erik every single day. But Pieters was one of “those” who apparently needed fucking off ASAP yeah? I’m also not defending nor criticising Pieters I’m just pointing the oatcake fuckwittery out mate This bloke is apparently only on trial and can COVER a variety of positions if needed, Fuller has stated above that jones wants another left back so what’s wrong with this bloke IF he signs?
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 26, 2019 9:30:33 GMT
We’ve gone from having Xherdan Shaqiri and Marko Arnautovic in our side to picking up Burnley rejects on a free. In only three years. Fucking Christ I knew we were going to get bought back down to earth a bit but I didn’t think it would be with this much of a bang.[/b] Don't you know that this is this years key trend in action and recognition. Everything is an acknowledgement of Apollo 11 and fifty years since the first Moon landings. People are being encouraged to reach for the Stars and then fall back to Terra Firma as a way of marking the full Space race experience.
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Post by sealion100 on Jun 26, 2019 9:31:14 GMT
Read in the Mail JJ to Leicester a done deal £6m ,but he will immediately go out on loan to a championship club COULD that be US!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 9:31:43 GMT
Looks like he would have played for Brighton during 13-14 season when Jones was assistant manager too
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Post by somersetstokie on Jun 26, 2019 9:31:49 GMT
Northern journo has tweeted that he is on trial. Also has played alongside Clucas Not another Berahino?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 26, 2019 9:32:06 GMT
Read in the Mail JJ to Leicester a done deal £6m ,but he will immediately go out on loan to a championship club COULD that be US! If true, you'd assume so.
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Post by thevoid on Jun 26, 2019 9:32:20 GMT
Oh well, there's some decent boozers in Lincoln I suppose 😔
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jun 26, 2019 9:34:37 GMT
Hopefully this guy is the back-up - he's nearly 34 and barely featured for Burnley last year! If so, where this leaves McClean is anyone's guess He's not the mobile wing back we were all expecting, hopefully bench cover for the younger left back still to come?
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Post by SCFC92 on Jun 26, 2019 9:35:50 GMT
As back up fantastic.
We are building a squad of leaders, battlers with a touch of flair.
Stoke will not look at all the same next season.. it's actually really exciting!
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Post by silverdollar on Jun 26, 2019 9:38:14 GMT
I find it quite funny how every single inch of media footage is analysed and commented upon. How many of you are actually privy to the manager's thoughts and plans. I would hazard a guess at around 0%. How many of you actually know that much about the players we have already signed other than having a quick look through some YouTube clips or the like. I and many of our fans cried out for a clear out of players and it seems clearly that is what happening. I am placing my trust in Nathan Jones to do a job and the club, as he has said, they are backing him. I shall watch the first ten games with great interest. Until then there will be no negativity from me!
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Post by potterpaul on Jun 26, 2019 9:38:19 GMT
Fuck me There are some mardarses on here He hasnt signed yet Give em time FFS
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Post by Absolution on Jun 26, 2019 9:39:43 GMT
Read in the Mail JJ to Leicester a done deal £6m ,but he will immediately go out on loan to a championship club COULD that be US! Luton supporters would be frothing.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 26, 2019 9:40:07 GMT
Has Jones actually stated categorically, that his intention is to play with a diamond next season? Pretty sure he has - it certainly seems to have been taken as read? quick google shows this from the end of last season? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/nathan-jones-diamond-stoke-city-2775140 “There’s not the players here who can play the diamond yet, we haven’t got the personnel yet. “We know we need a change in personnel to best achieve what we can. We attempted to do certain things and attempted to implement it but we had to be a bit more pragmatic. We’ve got results playing a system the players a bit more familiar with. If we’re going to play a diamond you need to recruit for a diamond. “The first four months at Luton I didn’t play it either because we didn’t have the personnel there either but we recruited for philosophy and that’s what we’re going to do from now. Then we’ll be a different group.” Yep I remember him saying that and I guess it is those comments that have lead people to assume that that is still his plan. We don't know for sure though that it is. Maybe he's going to keep his options open in case the diamond doesn't work, or even simply because he wants to have the option(s) to be flexible. Just a suggestion that maybe the exit of McClean isn't that cut and dried.
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Post by Block 22 on Jun 26, 2019 9:40:08 GMT
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jun 26, 2019 9:41:30 GMT
So let's get it right, he's a free agent and we are having a look at him in training to see if he's got what we are looking for.
Throw the book at them!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 26, 2019 9:42:33 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 26, 2019 9:42:40 GMT
Fuck me There are some mardarses on here He hasnt signed yet Give em time FFS Mardarses? On this messageboard? Shirley, you are joking?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 9:43:45 GMT
Really glad we've gone after Ward. Potentially the best left back in the league. Hope your taking the piss? I've awoken this morning full of a new, fresh outlook. Plenty of b*****s spouted on here for the last month or so, so thought it's better to be positive b******s than negative!
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Jun 26, 2019 9:45:51 GMT
Pieters isn’t going to sit on the bench as back up in the championship is he? And on 25k or so a week we can’t afford to keep him as back up. Providing we bring in a first choice left back which presumably we will, I’m fine with it.
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