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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 12, 2019 16:39:02 GMT
Thought you were talking about the actual stadium there, which is totally shit and was built at a fraction of the price of the other stadiums being built at the time. Thought the same thing myself
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Post by jarvinski on Apr 12, 2019 17:00:01 GMT
The original stadium was built for the same price ad Sunderlands, probably fat boy Moxey lined his pocket
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Post by marylandstoke on Apr 12, 2019 17:00:59 GMT
You can’t pay on a credit card? You’re joking? Cash only. I was as astounded as you when I found this out recently. I live in a country that is classed as an “emerging economy” and every tiny local mini market on every street corner accept card payments. It’s absolutely mind-boggling that it still seems to be beyond the reach of our multi-million pound business in the developed world. It really doesn’t inspire confidence in how our club is managed. Our little town has a farmers market on a Friday night and even the “street” vendors have their little cube that plugs into the iPhone. scan you your card, bish, bosh, bash, sale made and you can see it on your on line banking by the time you walked home
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Post by jaybee on Apr 12, 2019 17:06:21 GMT
Noticed Crewe have got digital tickets now. We'll probably get them in 2030. A league 2 club can do it why are we still just trialing card payments in one area of the stadium? I bet non-league clubs passed us by years ago as well. And ... for the guy that I sit next to, who doesn't have a mobile phone??? I fly with EasyJet a few times a year, the biggest hold ups is with the folks fumbling for the right bit on their phone!
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 12, 2019 17:23:05 GMT
Yeah lets put people out of work. Do we really think it’s those people’s main source of income? Two hours work on a Saturday? Theresa May classes that as full time employment.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 12, 2019 18:48:04 GMT
Noticed Crewe have got digital tickets now. We'll probably get them in 2030. A league 2 club can do it why are we still just trialing card payments in one area of the stadium? I bet non-league clubs passed us by years ago as well. And ... for the guy that I sit next to, who doesn't have a mobile phone??? I fly with EasyJet a few times a year, the biggest hold ups is with the folks fumbling for the right bit on their phone! Its the general point that stoke are always behind the curve though. Its true. We are run like a Sunday league club and have been for quite a while. Don't get me wrong I am very grateful to all the Coates investment but fook me they have some right clowns running things for them.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 12, 2019 19:19:22 GMT
The real truth is that SCFC employs a CEO whose only knowledge of a match day experience is from a Corporate Hospitality perspective, that’s as far as his interest takes him This!,
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 12, 2019 19:53:40 GMT
Ohhhhhh fucking hell....sorry mate
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Apr 12, 2019 21:46:01 GMT
Incredibly, it's something the club appears to be backing away from as per the Supporters Council minutes: January 2019 "The Contactless payment trial in the Franklyn Stand Lower has demonstrated reduced queue waiting times and increased supporter spend per head. Extending the trial to full implementation is a high priority, but it should be noted that a stadium wide roll out is significant and costly project. Regardless, the Club said they were close to finalising the cost estimate and expect implementation to proceed in the near future." March 2019 "The Club advised that the position in relation to a wider roll-out remains as last reported, as Capital Expenditure submission deadline is the end of March 2019. The Club will provide interim update on contactless implementation prior to the next Supporters Council meeting. Council members stressed contactless transactions remain a high priority for a broad cross-section of fans and urged the Club to look at innovative solutions that many smaller merchants seem to be using. The Club stated that they were hopeful that a roll out beyond existing trial locations will take place, although no implementation schedule is available until Capital investment is approved." From "close to finalising" the costs to "hopeful".... What capital expenditure are they talking about? You sign an agreement with an Acquirer, they charge you a small terminal rental and processing fee, for that they provide the terminals with the contactless payment solution and send the revenue to the Clubs bank account (thereby reducing the cost of cash)
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 12, 2019 22:16:05 GMT
The original stadium was built for the same price ad Sunderlands, probably fat boy Moxey lined his pocket I believe you’re about £8/9 million wrong in your assumption/statement. I think the Brit was about £15 million, the Stadium of Light about £24 million. One thing I can say as a matter of fact having had the opportunity of attending matches and, sitting the stands, having Corporate Hospitality and being invited to be in a private box, the two stadiums are chalk and cheese. I’ll leave it to your imagination to guess which ground is far superior in quality and the manner in which they are run. I’ll give you a comparison clue..........Delilah’s
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 12, 2019 22:27:01 GMT
The real truth is that SCFC employs a CEO whose only knowledge of a match day experience is from a Corporate Hospitality perspective, that’s as far as his interest takes him This!, I think our corporate hospitality is a far off the completion as the rest of our offering and I’ve no idea how much the ceo knows about any sector of our admissions but it’s fair to say He has though overseen appalling failure to keep pace with our peer group of 4 years ago in the areas of team performance , revenue , match day Experience , PR , transfer activity , manager recruitment , contract maamgemenr I’d let assets and on that basis it’s amazing he’s still in a job of any sorts let alone this one and still getting. Paid handsomely for overseeing repeated systematic failure .
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Post by citynickscfc on Apr 13, 2019 0:40:53 GMT
I think our corporate hospitality is a far off the completion as the rest of our offering and I’ve no idea how much the ceo knows about any sector of our admissions but it’s fair to say He has though overseen appalling failure to keep pace with our peer group of 4 years ago in the areas of team performance , revenue , match day Experience , PR , transfer activity , manager recruitment , contract maamgemenr I’d let assets and on that basis it’s amazing he’s still in a job of any sorts let alone this one and still getting. Paid handsomely for overseeing repeated systematic failure . That's basically my view of the cub, can't bring myself to 'get behind it' from afar. It's a mess and a joke
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Post by madnellie on Apr 13, 2019 1:54:37 GMT
It will not be considered to be outdated when we drop out of all of the Leagues. It'll still be considered outdated, it will just be bigger and have more corners than everybody else's.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2019 6:50:18 GMT
The original stadium was built for the same price ad Sunderlands, probably fat boy Moxey lined his pocket I believe you’re about £8/9 million wrong in your assumption/statement. I think the Brit was about £15 million, the Stadium of Light about £24 million. One thing I can say as a matter of fact having had the opportunity of attending matches and, sitting the stands, having Corporate Hospitality and being invited to be in a private box, the two stadiums are chalk and cheese. I’ll leave it to your imagination to guess which ground is far superior in quality and the manner in which they are run. I’ll give you a comparison clue..........Delilah’s The original construction of SoL was about the same (I think it was something like £1.5m more than what we paid for the Brit.) They built an extension to one of the stands about 5 years later which cost another £7m to take total costs to around the figure you’ve quoted. At the time of the respective stadiums being built I remember commenting that they must have cut corners building SoL because of how much more they got for such little extra cost. How wrong I was.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 13, 2019 7:38:33 GMT
Very harsh on the people running the club. Just a couple of years ago Stoke were the textbook of how to run a club for every club getting out of the Championship. We were a solid mid table club with sound finances. Most clubs coming up said:'look at Stoke!'
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Post by rorystowel on Apr 13, 2019 10:55:37 GMT
Bells and whistles would be nice, but the club’s #1 priority should be cutting down the foyer queues at half time. They are a joke in the Franklyn lower as I’m sure they are elsewhere. If you want a pint at half time (and I usually need one after watching us play) you can forget it, unless (a) you queue before the half time whistle goes, which I will never do, or (b) down your pint in one, as you race to get back to your seat for the second half. I know that it’s the same at other grounds I’ve been to, but it would be nice for our club to be ahead of the game for once.
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Post by kelw on Apr 13, 2019 11:03:22 GMT
Very harsh on the people running the club. Just a couple of years ago Stoke were the textbook of how to run a club for every club getting out of the Championship. We were a solid mid table club with sound finances. Most clubs coming up said:'look at Stoke!' Absolutely. Amazing how some see other clubs as better than ours etc when of course it's nonsense. Looks at Bolton and their wonderful stadium
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Post by peekay67 on Apr 13, 2019 12:03:49 GMT
When the Stadium of Light was opened it was one of only a handful of English clubs up to the standard of holding UEFA finals.
We built the Brit.
Enough said.
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Post by kelw on Apr 13, 2019 12:07:45 GMT
When the Stadium of Light was opened it was one of only a handful of English clubs up to the standard of holding UEFA finals. We built the Brit. Enough said. Was plenty of new grounds built in that era which no one has mentioned as guess doesn't suit running our own ground down. Is a decent enough ground and if queues for a beer and Crewe having electric tickets are a main worry then can live with that
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 13, 2019 12:33:32 GMT
Very harsh on the people running the club. Just a couple of years ago Stoke were the textbook of how to run a club for every club getting out of the Championship. We were a solid mid table club with sound finances. Most clubs coming up said:'look at Stoke!' And that's all true but the world keeps spinning. So what the fucking hell have they been on the last 4 years. They built it all up then fell asleep at the wheel. And we are now experiencing what that feels like. And they appear to be doing fuck all about sorting it out. Some big sackings required or at the very least some engineered sideways promotions to allow us to get a proper technical director who isn't a mate of the chairman's son and a decent CEO. How they are still in jobs with the current debacle is beyond me. What a bloody waste. They ruined all of Pulis's hard work.
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Post by shipshape on Apr 13, 2019 13:17:02 GMT
Incredibly, it's something the club appears to be backing away from as per the Supporters Council minutes: January 2019 "The Contactless payment trial in the Franklyn Stand Lower has demonstrated reduced queue waiting times and increased supporter spend per head. Extending the trial to full implementation is a high priority, but it should be noted that a stadium wide roll out is significant and costly project. Regardless, the Club said they were close to finalising the cost estimate and expect implementation to proceed in the near future." March 2019 "The Club advised that the position in relation to a wider roll-out remains as last reported, as Capital Expenditure submission deadline is the end of March 2019. The Club will provide interim update on contactless implementation prior to the next Supporters Council meeting. Council members stressed contactless transactions remain a high priority for a broad cross-section of fans and urged the Club to look at innovative solutions that many smaller merchants seem to be using. The Club stated that they were hopeful that a roll out beyond existing trial locations will take place, although no implementation schedule is available until Capital investment is approved." From "close to finalising" the costs to "hopeful".... What capital expenditure are they talking about? You sign an agreement with an Acquirer, they charge you a small terminal rental and processing fee, for that they provide the terminals with the contactless payment solution and send the revenue to the Clubs bank account (thereby reducing the cost of cash) It really is beyond belief. You can buy fruit off a street vendor in India with a debit card but not a pie at a multi million pound business that employs hundreds of people. It works in the ticket office yet not in the stands. Truly mind boggling
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 13, 2019 13:28:26 GMT
Noticed Crewe have got digital tickets now. We'll probably get them in 2030. A league 2 club can do it why are we still just trialing card payments in one area of the stadium? I bet non-league clubs passed us by years ago as well. I don't want digital tickets because it costs jobs. Stoke can afford to pay the staff and remain as we are.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 13, 2019 13:46:34 GMT
Noticed Crewe have got digital tickets now. We'll probably get them in 2030. You don't need cash at Nantwich car park.A league 2 club can do it why are we still just trialing card payments in one area of the stadium? I bet non-league clubs passed us by years ago as well. I don't want digital tickets because it costs jobs. Stoke can afford to pay the staff and remain as we are. The logic of that argument is that we should go back to the stone age and live in caves. But someone invented the plough, and technology moves on. Are you in favour of increasing ticket prices so Stoke can employ more people? You are clearly not in favour of increased/improved technology, so ticket prices can be held down? The world moves on. If you buy on the internet, the high street shops will be turned into cafes and charity shops. I can remember taking wireless lead batteries to the corner hardware shop in Porthill in the 50s to be recharged. But I 'm glad we don't do it any more. (Apologies, rant over.)
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Post by str8outtahampton on Apr 13, 2019 15:03:54 GMT
Incredibly, it's something the club appears to be backing away from as per the Supporters Council minutes: January 2019 "The Contactless payment trial in the Franklyn Stand Lower has demonstrated reduced queue waiting times and increased supporter spend per head. Extending the trial to full implementation is a high priority, but it should be noted that a stadium wide roll out is significant and costly project. Regardless, the Club said they were close to finalising the cost estimate and expect implementation to proceed in the near future." March 2019 "The Club advised that the position in relation to a wider roll-out remains as last reported, as Capital Expenditure submission deadline is the end of March 2019. The Club will provide interim update on contactless implementation prior to the next Supporters Council meeting. Council members stressed contactless transactions remain a high priority for a broad cross-section of fans and urged the Club to look at innovative solutions that many smaller merchants seem to be using. The Club stated that they were hopeful that a roll out beyond existing trial locations will take place, although no implementation schedule is available until Capital investment is approved." From "close to finalising" the costs to "hopeful".... What capital expenditure are they talking about? You sign an agreement with an Acquirer, they charge you a small terminal rental and processing fee, for that they provide the terminals with the contactless payment solution and send the revenue to the Clubs bank account (thereby reducing the cost of cash) It really doesn't sound like capital expenditure, does it? Tbh, it would not surprise me if scfc's finance team did not understand the difference between recurrent and capital expenditure. But even if it were capital, the above is a deeply unconvincing explanation. It sounds like some nincompoopery Sir Humphrey might have spouted in Yes Minister.
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Post by kjpt140v on Apr 13, 2019 20:41:46 GMT
I don't want digital tickets because it costs jobs. Stoke can afford to pay the staff and remain as we are. The logic of that argument is that we should go back to the stone age and live in caves. But someone invented the plough, and technology moves on. Are you in favour of increasing ticket prices so Stoke can employ more people? You are clearly not in favour of increased/improved technology, so ticket prices can be held down? The world moves on. If you buy on the internet, the high street shops will be turned into cafes and charity shops. I can remember taking wireless lead batteries to the corner hardware shop in Porthill in the 50s to be recharged. But I 'm glad we don't do it any more. (Apologies, rant over.) If it gave people on low wages an increase and a better life I'd be more than happy to pay more for my season ticket. It's nothing to do with living in the past it's about caring for our fellow humans. And yes I would pay more taxes including council taxes to help others.
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Post by GRUMPY 1 on Apr 14, 2019 12:54:02 GMT
I queued at a food kiosk yesterday behind a couple placing an order that took ages to put together and then shock horror she pulled out a card to pay. they walked off in disgust leaving the staff wondering what to do with the order. needless to say there was no way I was gonna order anything on their list. FFS every away match I've been this season had card payment at the food kiosk.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 9, 2019 16:15:18 GMT
Contactless is Coming!
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Post by shipshape on May 9, 2019 16:33:38 GMT
Just 8 years after contactless payments were launched in the UK. Remarkable innovation.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2019 16:37:33 GMT
I want to congratulate the Council for their relentless pursuit of this ( ange1), but at the same time I'm frustrated that the club have needed pushing so hard for it.
Contactless payment has been here for years and the ticket operations have needed upgrading for ages. As a club we need to be looking long and hard at all of our matchday experiences and working with our partners to improve them ahead of their time, and not dragging our heels at the back end.
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Post by StaffordPotter on May 9, 2019 16:43:50 GMT
Happy days indeed.
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