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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 16, 2019 22:51:53 GMT
back to the promised land? Will he really be able to get better players in who will improve this squad or first 11? I must admit I'm not a believer any more, but I really hope I'm wrong. Our approach to games is so negative, and today after scoring that fortunate goal we showed no desire to go for a second one. In the end we probably got the punishment we deserved for such an attitude. As my son and I said, we won't meet many teams worse than Ipswich. They were truely awful, but again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest.  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 16, 2019 22:53:46 GMT
Wait and see  |
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Post by lstokie on Feb 16, 2019 22:56:18 GMT
back to the promised land? Will he really be able to get better players in who will improve this squad or first 11? I must admit I'm not a believer any more, but I really hope I'm wrong. Our approach to games is so negative, and today after scoring that fortunate goal we showed no desire to go for a second one. In the end we probaly got the punishment we deserved for such an attitude. As my son and I said, we won't meet many teams worse than Ipswich. They were truely awful, but again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest. This season? No. But I've only seen 7 of his games, so you'd have to be stupid to say for definite whether he can or not at some point in the future. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 16, 2019 23:00:47 GMT
back to the promised land? Will he really be able to get better players in who will improve this squad or first 11? I must admit I'm not a believer any more, but I really hope I'm wrong. Our approach to games is so negative, and today after scoring that fortunate goal we showed no desire to go for a second one. In the end we probaly got the punishment we deserved for such an attitude. As my son and I said, we won't meet many teams worse than Ipswich. They were truely awful, but again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest. This season? No. But I've only seen 7 of his games, so you'd have to be stupid to say for definite whether he can or not at some point in the future. Someone else must be stupid if they interpreted what I wrote as a definite answer to anything! I just said I'm not a believer any more, if I said anything else I'd be a liar! |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 16, 2019 23:08:15 GMT
This season? No. But I've only seen 7 of his games, so you'd have to be stupid to say for definite whether he can or not at some point in the future. Someone else must be stupid if they interpreted what I wrote as a definite answer to anything! I just said I'm not a believer any more, if I said anything else I'd be a lier! Is that lier as in lying in bed ? |
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 16, 2019 23:09:32 GMT
Someone else must be stupid if they interpreted what I wrote as a definite answer to anything! I just said I'm not a believer any more, if I said anything else I'd be a lier! Is that lier as in lying in bed ? That was the best you could come up with?  |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 16, 2019 23:10:48 GMT
Is that lier as in lying in bed ? That was the best you could come up with? Well yes off the cuff. |
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Post by shangamuzo on Feb 16, 2019 23:13:04 GMT
Otherwise couldn't be arsed. MOTD is a bit boring so it's time to go and have a LIE down.
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Post by fca47 on Feb 16, 2019 23:22:30 GMT
Don't know, but I'm willing to give him the chance. The season was a write off before he came, anyone thinking differently is kidding themselves. Totally unbalanced squad with donkeys up front, it wasn't going to happen.
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Post by Absolution on Feb 16, 2019 23:31:53 GMT
None of us know, so we're all relying on gut instinct. My guess is 'yes'.
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Post by greystokie on Feb 16, 2019 23:36:03 GMT
"again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest."
I don't really think the manager can be blamed for the defensive fuck up that gave them the equaliser. We have 2 players in that side that were signed by the current manager. We all know that the rest of them are no good as a team. Why do you expect the manager to work miracles, overnight, with that lot? Forget about this season, and next. This is a long term project.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2019 23:42:19 GMT
No one is asking for 'miracles overnight'.
But with the introduction of a new manager and an additional £16m of 'talent' in the January window most folks didn't expect things to get worse.
As for the question in the OP I would say a 'No, not a hope', he looks and sounds completely crackers to me!
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Post by iglugluk on Feb 16, 2019 23:46:25 GMT
One win so far is pretty fucking poor no matter how it's dressed up.
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Post by Gods on Feb 16, 2019 23:46:47 GMT
"again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest." I don't really think the manager can be blamed for the defensive fuck up that gave them the equaliser. We have 2 players in that side that were signed by the current manager. We all know that the rest of them are no good as a team. Why do you expect the manager to work miracles, overnight, with that lot? Forget about this season, and next. This is a long term project. Yeah, right, you do know the parachute payments will be finished by then? Total annual income £20m maximum. |
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Post by greystokie on Feb 16, 2019 23:51:03 GMT
"again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest." I don't really think the manager can be blamed for the defensive fuck up that gave them the equaliser. We have 2 players in that side that were signed by the current manager. We all know that the rest of them are no good as a team. Why do you expect the manager to work miracles, overnight, with that lot? Forget about this season, and next. This is a long term project. Yeah, right, you do know the parachute payments will be finished by then? Total annual income £20m maximum. Parachute payments or not, the reality is that we are a shit side that won't easily be fixed in the short term. Its up to the Coates family to decide if they want to fund the re-generation or not. If they don't then we are fucked! |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Feb 16, 2019 23:54:02 GMT
"again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest." I don't really think the manager can be blamed for the defensive fuck up that gave them the equaliser. We have 2 players in that side that were signed by the current manager. We all know that the rest of them are no good as a team. Why do you expect the manager to work miracles, overnight, with that lot? Forget about this season, and next. This is a long term project. Yeah, right, you do know the parachute payments will be finished by then? Total annual income £20m maximum. What kind of parachute payments are the top 2 sides getting at the moment? |
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Post by cdlstoke on Feb 16, 2019 23:54:15 GMT
He was the cheap option. I’m feeling less optimistic every week goes by. He’s getting less out of the squad than Rowett. This bollocks about rebuilding in the summer, does anybody really believe he’s going to be allowed bring in another 9 or 10 players and just get rid or pay off the so called dead wood? I hope he comes good but Im honestly starting to think he ain’t got a clue. Just cross your fingers and hope for the best like the Coates family seem to be doing. Suppose I’ve seen worse in 30 plus years.😂😂
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Feb 16, 2019 23:58:23 GMT
back to the promised land? Will he really be able to get better players in who will improve this squad or first 11? I must admit I'm not a believer any more, but I really hope I'm wrong. Our approach to games is so negative, and today after scoring that fortunate goal we showed no desire to go for a second one. In the end we probably got the punishment we deserved for such an attitude. As my son and I said, we won't meet many teams worse than Ipswich. They were truely awful, but again we managed to throw away two points. It's really starting to get a bit comical to be honest. Look at Luton. He took over when they were languishing in 18th place in League 2. Left them after 2 and a bit years in 2nd place in League 1. Yet again, for whatever reason, out so called fans are unprepared to back him because he hasn't bought total success. We are so short sighted as a fan base it is laughable SGS |
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Post by royegg on Feb 17, 2019 0:06:29 GMT
Yes yes and thrice yes. Took m a while to sort Luton outand he will do it for us. Judge him this time next season.
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Post by johnnypotter on Feb 17, 2019 0:12:48 GMT
Yes, I believe he is the right man,we will see his true value after the summer. He is trying to replace a lot of bad attitudes and habits. It can't be done overnight. He had similar problems when he took over at Luton.
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Post by swampySCFC on Feb 17, 2019 0:21:39 GMT
When NJ took the job we were about to spunk £12m on Afobe. Now if it were me I would be thinking something isnt right here. how has this deal been agreed. Stoke have been backing losers since Pulis left
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2019 0:34:33 GMT
This season? No. But I've only seen 7 of his games, so you'd have to be stupid to say for definite whether he can or not at some point in the future. Someone else must be stupid if they interpreted what I wrote as a definite answer to anything! I just said I'm not a believer any more, if I said anything else I'd be a lier! 7 games is all it took to make you a non believer, he's signed two players of his own and has a very unbalanced squad lacking creativity or pace and you gave him 7 games  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 17, 2019 0:38:07 GMT
No one is asking for 'miracles overnight'. But with the introduction of a new manager and an additional £16m of 'talent' in the January window most folks didn't expect things to get worse. As for the question in the OP I would say a 'No, not a hope', he looks and sounds completely crackers to me! I don't think they have got worse, I'd say they're pretty much the same, we were losing to crap sides before Jones came in, I think you're over estimating what we spent in Jan unless I'm missing something? |
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Post by bloodtypered on Feb 17, 2019 0:50:11 GMT
Look at the bigger picture ...hes only been in the job 5mins, he wants to change things as time goes on.
I was at the game today,He needs
sharpen up the front end, we would have won easily today with the chances wasted
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 17, 2019 0:57:42 GMT
I believe in him,it's the garbage on the pitch who are letting us down.
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Post by pb1863 on Feb 17, 2019 1:00:26 GMT
Unfortunately everybody expects everything in this world to be done immediately and patience is a word few understand. He inherited a shit sandwich so give him time whether it be next season or the season after to build a side that can not only get promotion but can stay there. How long has it taken Norwich, Leeds, Sheffield Utd, Forest, Derby etc....
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Post by maine on Feb 17, 2019 1:52:04 GMT
I'd like to think so but I'm not really feeling it. The negative side of me says that if Rowett was Pulis minus results then so far Jones is Rowett, also minus his results.
I think Moyes would have had us in the struggle for the playoffs at this point.
Positively Jones has unquestionably a good lower division record so must have something going for him. Ryan as emergency late sub doesn't inspire me though.
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Post by canadianmoose on Feb 17, 2019 2:17:06 GMT
Said it before and will say it again.....Pep couldn't get a tune out of these fuckers. None of them are hungry enough for the fight at this level. Well, most of them anyway.
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Post by kustokie on Feb 17, 2019 2:20:22 GMT
I have seen enough. He talks a good story. But I am beginning to think he’s the Michelangelo of bullshit artists.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Feb 17, 2019 3:20:35 GMT
Frankly, yes. He’s given me more to go on than any manager since 14/15 Leslie that he has a clear plan for how he wants us to play and the people he wants around him. I’m not going to judge him too harshly for failing to reverse the sinking of this Titanic of a squad. He’s young and will make mistakes, (a bit like today) but I think he can be a great manager for us.
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