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Post by Uncle cheese on Jan 26, 2019 21:02:00 GMT
Fuck off. Just fuck off
He’s testing out the squad. If you can’t see that you’re a stupid cunt
Fuck this season off and post the same this time next year. We’ll be top of the championship. 5 points clear
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jan 26, 2019 21:03:03 GMT
4 managers and still the same problems......how many more managers before we find a fix? id say the common denominator is they are all british! until Coates stops blindly looking inwards and employs a proper director of football that knows the game both home and abroad and can find someone dif ferent from abroad to manage a team built on new thinkingi think we will be at grou dhog day. today had the look and feel of everythig we saw with Hughes Lambert and Rowett because fundamentally British managers are all cut from the same cloth it seems. today was very very poor indeed. the Tymon thing was appalling for me and showed Jones inexperience
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 26, 2019 21:04:04 GMT
Fuck off. Just fuck off He’s testing out the squad. If you can’t see that you’re a stupid cunt Fuck this season off and post the same this time next year. We’ll be top of the championship. 5 points clear Does your mummy and daddy know you're using the internet after your bed time? Gouranga.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 26, 2019 21:06:00 GMT
Taking Tymon off before half time was very poor management. Injury or not he looked distraught Very poor Mr Jones I don't think if was. I've always wanted a manager That's not afraid to do it. A lot of top managers I've seen do it.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 26, 2019 21:06:31 GMT
If Tymon was injured you take him off no matter it's just before half time. If it was purely tactical it was a dreadful decision No matter what anyone says now, at the time Tymon was not injured he came off shaking his head and holding his hands out gesturing why. It was a shocking demoralising decision to make. Gouranga. I agree, I saw that at the time aswell and he was pissed off . I know he’s shit but to do it at that time when half time was just 3 mins away was so unprofessional for me and poor from NJ.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:07:55 GMT
I can remember for along time. Right from the word go it was bad, picking Tymon at LB when he was dreadful against Shrewsbury, Clucas keeping his place in the side after some of the most abject displays barring his goal against Leeds he had been woeful. Playing a back 5 just because we were lucky with it last week - that's Hughes, Lambert, Rowett now Jones who've tried it and its shite. Subbing Tymon with less than 3 minutes to half time, the lads head dropped so low the worms were winking at him, he could have waited until half time surely. No game plan no urgency and whatever tactics he was using were baffling to everyone around me and I still can't fathom them out over 3 hours after the game. Nothing seemed to change at half time either except that BMI appeared to be our LWB. The subs were just as clueless, taking off Campbell instead of Afobe and replacing him with the goal machine McClean when we needed to score then subbing Afobe for Crouch we then had to rely on a 37 year old beanpole who's lost the ability to jump to try and get us into the game our only recognised striker on the pitch. Still no one seemed to know what tactics or system we were trying to play. This was fucking Preston at home and we looked clueless, the manager looked clueless, the crowd looked shocked and bewildered and nothing happened to change what was being dished up on the pitch. I am prepared to give Jones a bit of time for him to deliver his "fast, exciting, attacking" brand of football but it can't be acceptable to be served up much more of what was witnessed today or the honeymoon period will be a very short lived one. Gouranga. You need to watch more football. Yeah he was bad, like he was randomizing management or something, but it's a jungle out there, and you've seen nothin' yet.
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Post by Gods on Jan 26, 2019 21:11:51 GMT
Fuck off. Just fuck off He’s testing out the squad. If you can’t see that you’re a stupid cunt Fuck this season off and post the same this time next year. We’ll be top of the championship. 5 points clear Why are we fucking this season off ? Had we got something at Brentford and won today we'd still be in business. Heaven knows why we played the 2nd team, we've had a complete nightmare today,
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 26, 2019 21:12:08 GMT
Sounds like I was lucky to miss the match today. I was busy attending Prayers for the Nation, maybe Nathan should have joined us? I understand the 3 CBs, 2 WB system but for it to work you need to have two WBs who are good enough to be FBs and good enough to be wingers. If they aren't it doesn't work. In fact I would go further and say they not only have to be excellent defenders and can beat a man and centre, they also need to be fast and supremely fit to keep getting up and down the pitch. We have never had and player good enough to do that although I accept Chelsea turned Moses into a good WB after he left us. There have been a number of posters on here who have said for some time that our season is over, especially after losing to Shrewsbury, I think I am now coming round to that point of view, I hope NJ proves me wrong. I have always hung on to the hope we can turn things around, I did last season until it was a certainty BUT I have to admit that we now have no chance of making the play-offs it would take a miracle and we just aren't that lucky. I would love to proved wrong but in all honesty can anyone see it happening? I hope to god that we don’t make the playoffs, as it would just be papering over the cracks ! The best that I could hope for is gain some momentum into the summer break. Give Nathan the close season to recruit his own players and to coach his philosophies but most importantly move on the deadwood and also say adios amigo to the player that will constantly be a thorn in his side as long that he remains in the background ! Can anyone honestly see Stoke in the Premier League next season ? What would we be trying to beat Derby’s points record, being constantly thrashed by the dregs of the League ? It would probably cause more financial problems than its worth, and what would it do to the morale and loyalty of the fans ? The best way is to completely rebuild this clubs footballing culture from the first team right down to the juniors, this job needs doing right no matter how long it takes.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 26, 2019 21:12:59 GMT
My only qualms today were....
1) starting Tymon 2) subbing Campbell instead of a poor Afobe 3) And if he did need to bring McClean on, take Clucas off (who offered frig all t'day)....
Other than that, he's working with the same bunch of useless fuckwits!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:13:14 GMT
I have always hung on to the hope we can turn things around, I did last season until it was a certainty BUT I have to admit that we now have no chance of making the play-offs it would take a miracle and we just aren't that lucky. I would love to proved wrong but in all honesty can anyone see it happening? I hope to god that we don’t make the playoffs, as it would just be papering over the cracks ! The best that I could hope for is gain some momentum into the summer break. Give Nathan the close season to recruit his own players and to coach his philosophies but most importantly move on the deadwood and also say adios amigo to the player that will constantly be a thorn in his side as long that he remains in the background ! Can anyone honestly see Stoke in the Premier League next season ? What would we be trying to beat Derby’s points record, being constantly thrashed by the dregs of the League ? It would probably cause more financial problems than its worth, and what would it do to the morale and loyalty of the fans ? The best way is to completely rebuild this clubs footballing culture from the first team right down to the juniors, this job needs doing right no matter how long it takes. I wouldn't worry about making the play offs, this team will go backwards before it goes forwards....
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Post by ceejays on Jan 26, 2019 21:13:54 GMT
You normally post sensible posts Albert but not this time. With in a week jones has sussed every player out, It took him three windows to sort Luton out. The biggest problem of Scfc is it’s fickle fans quick to criticise and as Mike Doyle once said we drain the energy out of the team. We have a bright young manager who will deliver of that I’m convinced unless we drain him too
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 26, 2019 21:14:29 GMT
I can remember for along time. Right from the word go it was bad, picking Tymon at LB when he was dreadful against Shrewsbury, Clucas keeping his place in the side after some of the most abject displays barring his goal against Leeds he had been woeful. Playing a back 5 just because we were lucky with it last week - that's Hughes, Lambert, Rowett now Jones who've tried it and its shite. Subbing Tymon with less than 3 minutes to half time, the lads head dropped so low the worms were winking at him, he could have waited until half time surely. No game plan no urgency and whatever tactics he was using were baffling to everyone around me and I still can't fathom them out over 3 hours after the game. Nothing seemed to change at half time either except that BMI appeared to be our LWB. The subs were just as clueless, taking off Campbell instead of Afobe and replacing him with the goal machine McClean when we needed to score then subbing Afobe for Crouch we then had to rely on a 37 year old beanpole who's lost the ability to jump to try and get us into the game our only recognised striker on the pitch. Still no one seemed to know what tactics or system we were trying to play. This was fucking Preston at home and we looked clueless, the manager looked clueless, the crowd looked shocked and bewildered and nothing happened to change what was being dished up on the pitch. I am prepared to give Jones a bit of time for him to deliver his "fast, exciting, attacking" brand of football but it can't be acceptable to be served up much more of what was witnessed today or the honeymoon period will be a very short lived one. Gouranga. Utter fucking clueless waffle.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:17:39 GMT
Not really sure why people are leaping to pour hatred on him, but all in all I think it was a mistake to stick with the 352 with hindsight. We played far better second half in the diamond.
That said, he clearly did it to try and keep some normalcy and confidence in the team.
We missed a creative spark though today, and hopefully NJ has realised that (linked to the reason Rowett was sacked) the 3 in midfield we started with today are not good enough going forward.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 26, 2019 21:24:05 GMT
I can remember for along time. Right from the word go it was bad, picking Tymon at LB when he was dreadful against Shrewsbury, Clucas keeping his place in the side after some of the most abject displays barring his goal against Leeds he had been woeful. Playing a back 5 just because we were lucky with it last week - that's Hughes, Lambert, Rowett now Jones who've tried it and its shite. Subbing Tymon with less than 3 minutes to half time, the lads head dropped so low the worms were winking at him, he could have waited until half time surely. No game plan no urgency and whatever tactics he was using were baffling to everyone around me and I still can't fathom them out over 3 hours after the game. Nothing seemed to change at half time either except that BMI appeared to be our LWB. The subs were just as clueless, taking off Campbell instead of Afobe and replacing him with the goal machine McClean when we needed to score then subbing Afobe for Crouch we then had to rely on a 37 year old beanpole who's lost the ability to jump to try and get us into the game our only recognised striker on the pitch. Still no one seemed to know what tactics or system we were trying to play. This was fucking Preston at home and we looked clueless, the manager looked clueless, the crowd looked shocked and bewildered and nothing happened to change what was being dished up on the pitch. I am prepared to give Jones a bit of time for him to deliver his "fast, exciting, attacking" brand of football but it can't be acceptable to be served up much more of what was witnessed today or the honeymoon period will be a very short lived one. Gouranga. Utter fucking clueless waffle. Pugs Not quite as “pointed” your comment. No manager can (or should) shoulder the blame for a generally lethargic (diplomatic) performance by a high % of players whose overall play was sloppy and non commital to say the least.
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Post by maxdecarlo on Jan 26, 2019 21:24:13 GMT
Jones appointment is a joke history will show that he was picked as a cheap option to get fans off back to buy into the idea the club needs time to get rid of all the dross etc there by giving the board and idiots running club time he is out of his depth
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Post by maxdecarlo on Jan 26, 2019 21:25:47 GMT
Anyone with an ounce of sense can see tymon and campbell are way way short of what is required at this level clearly the manager cant
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 26, 2019 21:27:41 GMT
Jones appointment is a joke history will show that he was picked as a cheap option to get fans off back to buy into the idea the club needs time to get rid of all the dross etc there by giving the board and idiots running club time he is out of his depth Jesus wept.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 26, 2019 21:27:53 GMT
Ckufing sith today, hated every minute of that crap. The force definitely wasn't with us today....
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Post by Godo on Jan 26, 2019 21:34:37 GMT
Yes in my view when he went to a diamond I'd have put Ince or Bojan at the top of it. So what??? With a squad of 30+ players where only 6 or so players are even Championship standard I'm not sure what 11 man system would work. Best thing to do is ignore 2 and half years of shit performances by this group of players and most of the recent additions and blame it all on the manager.
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Post by slicko on Jan 26, 2019 21:35:18 GMT
Ckufing sith today, hated every minute of that crap. The force definitely wasn't with us today.... Obi Wank Enobi
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Post by wuzza on Jan 26, 2019 21:36:21 GMT
Jones’ own comment that he ‘didn’t see this coming’ (very Rowettesque) clearly shows he is a long way from sussing his playing resources out yet. Indeed his general post match demeanour in his short reign has quite often given the impression of a man who hadn’t really got a measure of the task he has signed up to. Hopefully he is making his errors early on and will have got to grips by the start of next season. He has a major advantage now in that nobody in their right mind has any expectations left for this season other than avoiding an unseemly flirtation with relegation.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 26, 2019 21:39:05 GMT
Jones appointment is a joke history will show that he was picked as a cheap option to get fans off back to buy into the idea the club needs time to get rid of all the dross etc there by giving the board and idiots running club time he is out of his depth What a Moby.
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2019 21:39:32 GMT
I’m prepared to cut NJ a bit of slack.
Picking Tymon was a poor decision. We needed to keep the 10 remaining players in the same positions as for Leeds and bring in a replacement for Charlie.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 26, 2019 21:40:00 GMT
I really like Jones and the bravery around his decision making. Today though perhaps he was too brave.
Starting Tyman - A player way out of his depth. Needed taking off and he at least realised his initial mistake of picking him.
Bringing on Sorenson - Who was a total passenger. Don't remember anything significant he did all game.
Starting Campbell - After a bright start v Leeds he looked ineffective today and still has a lot to learn.
Today we were carrying too many passengers who contributed absolutely zero
Tymon Sorenson Campbell the rest of the back 4 were pretty poor too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 21:42:32 GMT
I’m prepared to cut NJ a bit of slack. Picking Tymon was a poor decision. We needed to keep the 10 remaining players in the same positions as for Leeds and bring in a replacement for Charlie. We don't have a replacement for Charlie
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 26, 2019 21:44:43 GMT
Fuck off. Just fuck off He’s testing out the squad. If you can’t see that you’re a stupid cunt Fuck this season off and post the same this time next year. We’ll be top of the championship. 5 points clear Why are we fucking this season off ? Had we got something at Brentford and won today we'd still be in business. Heaven knows why we played the 2nd team, we've had a complete nightmare today, If we hadn't missed two sitters, a penalty, got given and scored another clear penalty, we'd have won 4 - 2! You passive aggressive bitch! Today was mostly awful and did anyone notice, in his interview, Nathan was referring to 'them' and not 'we' at times! He's assessing his squad 'live' as it were! 'Last yearweek they loved you, opening doors and pulling some strings..... angel! Run for the shadows in these Golden years....'
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Post by march4 on Jan 26, 2019 21:44:50 GMT
I’m prepared to cut NJ a bit of slack. Picking Tymon was a poor decision. We needed to keep the 10 remaining players in the same positions as for Leeds and bring in a replacement for Charlie. We don't have a replacement for Charlie Very true, but moving Etebo and Clucas out of positions that suited them better weakened us all over the pitch. It would have been better just to start with Sorensen and leave the rest alone.
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Post by loosestools on Jan 26, 2019 21:52:31 GMT
I have always hung on to the hope we can turn things around, I did last season until it was a certainty BUT I have to admit that we now have no chance of making the play-offs it would take a miracle and we just aren't that lucky. I would love to proved wrong but in all honesty can anyone see it happening? I hope to god that we don’t make the playoffs, as it would just be papering over the cracks ! The best that I could hope for is gain some momentum into the summer break. Give Nathan the close season to recruit his own players and to coach his philosophies but most importantly move on the deadwood and also say adios amigo to the player that will constantly be a thorn in his side as long that he remains in the background ! Can anyone honestly see Stoke in the Premier League next season ? What would we be trying to beat Derby’s points record, being constantly thrashed by the dregs of the League ? It would probably cause more financial problems than its worth, and what would it do to the morale and loyalty of the fans ? The best way is to completely rebuild this clubs footballing culture from the first team right down to the juniors, this job needs doing right no matter how long it takes. Well said OFC I've been saying this for a good few weeks, I'm not however convinced by NJ yet! If he was able to rebuild in the summer who would come here, some L1 players? Where would that take us? absolutely nowhere, Premier League is a dream, and it hurts.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Jan 26, 2019 21:54:22 GMT
Tymon will not make a footballer at this level whilst he's got a hole in his arse.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jan 26, 2019 21:59:01 GMT
Taking Tymon off before half time was very poor management. Injury or not he looked distraught Very poor Mr Jones Injury or not? So are you suggesting that Jones should have kept him on even if injured, just to avoid hurting his feeling? He’s a professional footballer for fucks sake, not some fucking child who was on the pitch as some sort of Jim’ll Fix It case.
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