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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:05:33 GMT
You fail to mention he's a crook. Moyes has done much more and better. Don’t recall any criminal charges against allardyce but may be wrong , Moyes has failed at Man Utd , Sunderland and in Spain , I’m not saying he’s not miles better than the current incumbant but allardyce is more expensive for good reason , he’s the very best we could hope for Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:06:13 GMT
Come on people, the Sunderland job was a fucking nightmare and one he just shouldn't have taken, that was his mistake and that squad he inherited with NO money to spend was doomed. We have money and we have enough decent players already here to be in the mix. Yet big Sam kept them up with relative ease Nailed it.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2019 13:06:23 GMT
Don’t recall any criminal charges against allardyce but may be wrong , Moyes has failed at Man Utd , Sunderland and in Spain , I’m not saying he’s not miles better than the current incumbant but allardyce is more expensive for good reason , he’s the very best we could hope for Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. 'Who would do a better job than Gary Rowett'?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:07:39 GMT
Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. 'Who would do a better job than Gary Rowett'? That’s a pretty hapless level of ambition. I’d say approximately 50 million people in the UK could do a better job than this clown 😉
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 3, 2019 13:08:34 GMT
'Who would do a better job than Gary Rowett'? That’s a pretty hapless level of ambition. I’d say approximately 50 million people in the UK could do a better job than this clown 😉 That's where we're at now though isn't it?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:10:23 GMT
That’s a pretty hapless level of ambition. I’d say approximately 50 million people in the UK could do a better job than this clown 😉 That's where we're at now though isn't it? Depressing times!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 3, 2019 13:16:13 GMT
Don’t recall any criminal charges against allardyce but may be wrong , Moyes has failed at Man Utd , Sunderland and in Spain , I’m not saying he’s not miles better than the current incumbant but allardyce is more expensive for good reason , he’s the very best we could hope for Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. Who was Mr Glasgow 1979?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 3, 2019 13:17:24 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. Was it more attractive then? He'd already had a few seasons fire fighting. This time he has something to build, backing of the owners and a real prospect of getting back into the PL and establishing us again. It's a fantastic job.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:19:37 GMT
Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. Who was Mr Glasgow 1979? Haha love it mate
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 13:20:22 GMT
Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. Who was Mr Glasgow 1979? Christ he’s an ugly cunt isn’t he.
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 3, 2019 13:23:15 GMT
Agree mate. If Moyes is the answer then what the fuck is the question. Who was Mr Glasgow 1979? I see he was a bit of a looker back in the day then, panties dropping left right and center
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jan 3, 2019 13:24:08 GMT
Moyes would fit us perfectly IMO.
Don't think he'd come here though, nor will Allardyce.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 3, 2019 13:27:28 GMT
He wouldn't be my first choice but I'd be happy with him. He's more of a man worthy of managing the biggest budget in the division that our current lower league experienced manager.
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 3, 2019 13:37:46 GMT
Moyes would fit us perfectly IMO. Don't think he'd come here though, nor will Allardyce. Money talks, Sam would be expensive and we know he's a greedy bastard. So what if he does the business of getting Stoke back in the Prem or at least a shot at it this season ? Gary wouldn't make the play-off's I'm afraid.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jan 3, 2019 13:39:05 GMT
I'd rather Sam, but I'd be happy with Moyes.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 3, 2019 13:45:37 GMT
Allardyce over Moyes for me if we could manage to attract either of them.
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Post by Mezza on Jan 3, 2019 13:49:35 GMT
Start putting your money on Moyes lads.
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 3, 2019 15:18:53 GMT
Come on people, the Sunderland job was a fucking nightmare and one he just shouldn't have taken, that was his mistake and that squad he inherited with NO money to spend was doomed. We have money and we have enough decent players already here to be in the mix. Yet big Sam kept them up with relative easeThat is rubbish. How many people are there on this MB who want to rewrite history? When Allardyce was appointed, Sunderland sat 19th in the Premier League table with three points from their first eight games of the season. At the end of the season they finished 17th, 2 points above relegation. The season actually got worse for a period after Allerdyce took over. He had endeared himself to the Sunderland fans though by beating Newcastle. He saved them from relegation by a late rally in the last 2 months. www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england_2016&teamid=10
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 3, 2019 15:35:31 GMT
Yet big Sam kept them up with relative easeThat is rubbish. How many people are there on this MB who want to rewrite history? When Allardyce was appointed, Sunderland sat 19th in the Premier League table with three points from their first eight games of the season. At the end of the season they finished 17th, 2 points above relegation. The season actually got worse for a period after Allerdyce took over. He had endeared himself to the Sunderland fans though by beating Newcastle. He saved them from relegation by a late rally in the last 2 months. www.soccerstats.com/team.asp?league=england_2016&teamid=10 Fine margins Moyes actually took then down , rooted to the bottom of the table
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jan 3, 2019 15:40:09 GMT
Start putting your money on Moyes lads. Elaborate!
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Post by berahinosgoals on Jan 3, 2019 15:42:14 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. Might think we've dropped as low as we will go and the only way is up from here which will look good on him. Football people & managers of higher standing will have known the stoke job was a poisoned chalice and were on the way down, a job to steer clear of. You can see the attraction if there is one from the Coates', really moyes is a premier league manager, no doubt he'd take us up in future
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jan 3, 2019 15:43:25 GMT
Come on people, the Sunderland job was a fucking nightmare and one he just shouldn't have taken, that was his mistake and that squad he inherited with NO money to spend was doomed. We have money and we have enough decent players already here to be in the mix. You’re right General he should never have taken it the club was plummeting with no cash whatsoever and an owner trying to sell, we are different and for me if we got the Moyes at West Ham with Stuart Pearce as his no 2 here as well I’m sure he’d improve us immensely with some cash
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Post by march4 on Jan 3, 2019 15:43:37 GMT
First man to use pro zone , first to focus on interim rest , simple 10 rule plan players can follow ,never relegated , promotion on his cv from this league , Bolton into Europe England manager on merit , he’s a fantastic manager , and would change our back room team and approach entirely You fail to mention he's a crook. Moyes has done much more and better. The Sentinel suggests Scholes wants Moyes. For that reason alone, Moyes should be the last man on Earth we look at for our next manager.
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Post by cbwhu on Jan 3, 2019 15:56:05 GMT
Did a great job for us, don't turn your noses up at him at all
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Post by mrpickles on Jan 3, 2019 16:00:17 GMT
Did a great job for us, don't turn your noses up at him at all Nice one mate. Out of interest, what was the football like? He played 3 at the back didn't he?
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Post by cbwhu on Jan 3, 2019 16:14:36 GMT
Did a great job for us, don't turn your noses up at him at all Nice one mate. Out of interest, what was the football like? He played 3 at the back didn't he? Not amazing, better than Allardyce though He did though that was more a needs must as we were too open anytime he played 2 cb's to be fair we were the same this season until Rice moved back to midfield
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jan 3, 2019 16:43:07 GMT
I thought West Ham were pretty wank under Moyes- they finished on less points than we did in 16/17
He was wank at Sunderland Wank at Soceidad Wank at united Decent at Everton- although in a hugely different era
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Post by houstonsteve on Jan 3, 2019 17:09:21 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. Was it more attractive then? He'd already had a few seasons fire fighting. This time he has something to build, backing of the owners and a real prospect of getting back into the PL and establishing us again. It's a fantastic job. It's a fair enough point. I don't disagree with your point of view. However, I really wish I could buy into the ambition and 5 year plan, etc etc but everything we are seeing says its the same cluster as ever. I have nothing against him personally but I just wonder what the attraction is when my Cv already says I have managed one of the top clubs in the world (or England for that matter for the other "British with a pulse" potential candidate)..... will re-establishing Stoke as a lower mid Prem club really be that attractive a proposition? Does it light enough professional fires?.............Pulis already achieved that - so what's the point and is it so hard for any semi-competent manager anyway if the backing is so great? From the outside looking in we look like a lower level championship side with basket case leadership and structures. I could bore you with comparisons of how the Houston Astros and Stoke treat season ticket holders and corporate hospitality but its not worth it. Needless to say I don't have Stoke season tickets any more. I honestly think it's time for new owners and ideas but unfortunately we have a shorter term fire to fight again based on incoherent and incompetent recruitment (or Stoke will be on fire sale in a year).
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Post by houstonsteve on Jan 3, 2019 17:13:22 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. Might think we've dropped as low as we will go and the only way is up from here which will look good on him. Football people & managers of higher standing will have known the stoke job was a poisoned chalice and were on the way down, a job to steer clear of. You can see the attraction if there is one from the Coates', really moyes is a premier league manager, no doubt he'd take us up in future fair enough. I honestly think any half decent manager with a more ambitious mindset will take this squad (even with no new additions in January) into the playoffs THIS year - and then its a lottery what happens. I just don't see what the attraction is for anybody like Moyes and Allardyce.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 3, 2019 17:15:10 GMT
Just how good is Moyes with PowerPoint? Does he like Pizza? Does he do flashy hyped up pre-season videos? These are real deal breakers of him being a manager here imo. We've set the bar ever so high lately. 😏
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