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Post by TheProletarian on Jan 1, 2019 23:57:31 GMT
David Moysey’s barmy army!!
Come on Dave, come to a club that’ll appreciate you. It’s be like going to an orphanage and giving the children a home.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 0:17:16 GMT
Moyes would also be Uncle Peters man, for Moyes to accept the role he’s going to have to wrestle control back from a John, sack Cartwright, keep Scholes on a very short defined leash and give Moyes complete football control. Well if we have to wrestle control back from a john, we're in deeper shit than I ever thought we were...
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Post by teskofc on Jan 2, 2019 0:22:48 GMT
Moyes would also be Uncle Peters man, for Moyes to accept the role he’s going to have to wrestle control back from a John, sack Cartwright, keep Scholes on a very short defined leash and give Moyes complete football control. Agreed - The key there being Give Moyes complete football control.
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Post by TexasPotter on Jan 2, 2019 0:24:30 GMT
It might be a match made in mediocrity heaven, we need Moyes and Moyes needs a side he can get a new chance with, he's not getting into the prem it looks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 20:52:53 GMT
Welcome to Stoke, David! 😀😀
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 20:55:26 GMT
Welcome to Stoke, David! 😀😀 Will you please confirm what you know about him being a guest of Coates at Bolton?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 20:56:42 GMT
Welcome to Stoke, David! 😀😀 Will you please confirm what you know about him being a guest of Coates at Bolton? 😉😉
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 20:58:15 GMT
Will you please confirm what you know about him being a guest of Coates at Bolton? 😉😉 That'll be a no then.
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Post by philb on Jan 2, 2019 20:58:45 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. Can’t be any more dull than Rowett surely Do you fink?
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Post by BuzzB on Jan 2, 2019 21:23:31 GMT
For those saying no to Moyes, who is there better at the moment?
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Post by Veritas on Jan 2, 2019 21:28:23 GMT
Moyes didn't want the Stoke job when it was a much more attractive job than it is now. Whats changed? Dull as dishwater to boot. What has changed is Moyes realises he is not currently in demand for a Premier League job and he would back himself to quickly improve a massively under performing squad thereby restoring his profile.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jan 2, 2019 23:02:20 GMT
Always said it, but think Moyes would be a great fit for us. He needs to rebuild his reputation, was a good mix between pragmatism and creativity. He will benefit from English owners. He will also want to oversee all aspects of the club, scouting, opposition analysis, player recruitment, recovery, youth setup, training. This is what he did at Man Utd and Everton. This is exactly what we need. The guy was known for being meticulous and wanting to be involved in everything. He should see straight through the pizza boys all being well. He was eventually able to put together a successful youth setup at Everton and pretty consistent transfer team. Just take a read of this from 2013... www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/scouting-system-that-reveals-david-moyes-mind-8756011.htmlIf you think we are anything like this now you're kidding yourselves. Sure its been said when Rowett came he said in discussions with the club "We need a player like Benik Afobe" and the club had no other thought than getting Benik Afobe...This is not how Moyes works. It should hopefully give a better return on the Coatesy investment in the long term. Everton weren't a big club but were ambitious and consistent. Exactly what we should have been trying to become but a bad transfer strategy, bad youth setup and lack of overall vision meant it was a mess. Stoke has always needed a manager to run the club from top to bottom. Pulis did it and hopefully if we get Moyes he will do the same. Id prefer Moyes over allardyce all day, there's no chance allardyce will change or do anything different. Moyes at least seems to enjoy all aspects of football. You don't get the second highest number of manager of the year awards behind Ferguson and get hand picked for Man Utd manager by the greatest manager in history if there isn't some quality there. The only part that really, really worries me is he and Scholes and friends, so may not fix the long term issues...
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 2, 2019 23:07:35 GMT
It wasn't too long ago since Stoke fans were singing "Fergie touches boys, so does David Moyes". Wonder if that's got any bearing on it? Same as why Steve Bruce might avoid us because he's a "Wanker with a big, fat, fucking head"? Unlikely that it would actually put them off of course, being professionals, but still. To be fair one of those statements is simply factual tho...
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Post by march4 on Jan 2, 2019 23:07:40 GMT
Big Sam for me.
Moyes’ career has faltered too much.
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2019 23:10:14 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. He did recover some of his reputation at West Ham,did a good job there.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 2, 2019 23:10:53 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. So has Allardyce's. The thought of that fat sack of shit in our dugout sickens me.
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Post by march4 on Jan 2, 2019 23:11:20 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. He did recover some of his reputation at West Ham,did a good job there. Not enough to be kept on though.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 2, 2019 23:11:34 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. He did recover some of his reputation at West Ham,did a good job there. Didn't get the credit he deserved for what he did last season. With the financial backing Rowett has received we'd be comfortably challenging for promotion with Moyes in charge imo.
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Post by march4 on Jan 2, 2019 23:12:18 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. So has Allardyce's. The thought of that fat sack of shit in our dugout sickens me. In what way has Big Sam faltered. Footballing wise he has been pretty successful.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 23:13:10 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. So has Allardyce's. The thought of that fat sack of shit in our dugout sickens me. I'm not falling for that Pugs. I bet you've got a poster of him on your wall.
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2019 23:13:27 GMT
He did recover some of his reputation at West Ham,did a good job there. Didn't get the credit he deserved for what he did last season. With the financial backing Rowett has received we'd be comfortably challenging for promotion with Moyes in charge imo. To be fair most managers would. If we are genuinely in for Sam and/or Moyes then budget must be good.
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Post by lordb on Jan 2, 2019 23:14:15 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. So has Allardyce's. The thought of that fat sack of shit in our dugout sickens me. Moyes preferable Pugs?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 2, 2019 23:21:09 GMT
So has Allardyce's. The thought of that fat sack of shit in our dugout sickens me. Moyes preferable Pugs? For me yes. Think he might do a good job. Would prefer Jokanovic though.
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Post by march4 on Jan 2, 2019 23:29:54 GMT
For me yes. Think he might do a good job. Would prefer Jokanovic though. Moyes failed at ManUre and failed spectacularly at Sunderland. Do we really want to risk our immediate future on a man with such a calamitous past?
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 2, 2019 23:37:41 GMT
For me yes. Think he might do a good job. Would prefer Jokanovic though. Moyes failed at ManUre and failed spectacularly at Sunderland. Do we really want to risk our immediate future on a man with such a calamitous past? Man Utd was too big a job for him and every manager fails at Sunderland, complete basket case of a club. Did well at West Ham considering that was a mad house as well. Allardyce is just a shit house. Rowett is more likeable. Every manager fails somewhere along the line.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 0:03:40 GMT
Big Sam for me. Moyes’ career has faltered too much. Agreed. Why would we want Moyes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 0:09:03 GMT
For me yes. Think he might do a good job. Would prefer Jokanovic though. Moyes failed at ManUre and failed spectacularly at Sunderland. Do we really want to risk our immediate future on a man with such a calamitous past? Let's not forget Moyes got himself a class forward player who was on the score sheet twice this evening!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 3, 2019 0:13:13 GMT
For those saying no to Moyes, who is there better at the moment? The vast majority of championship and league one managers?
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Post by stokeykez on Jan 3, 2019 0:13:18 GMT
He may be able to persuade Andy Carroll to join him. Need a striker like him at the mo
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 3, 2019 0:14:23 GMT
For me yes. Think he might do a good job. Would prefer Jokanovic though. Moyes failed at ManUre and failed spectacularly at Sunderland.
Do we really want to risk our immediate future on a man with such a calamitous past? Sunderland were a basket case Owner not interested, short of money - doomed Moyes took Sunderland down, but there are 6 other managers who struggled at Sunderland. Big Sam is the only one who managed to protect his reputation by saving them from relegation, but his record wasn't as good as people make out. He took over in October and the club slid into the relegation zone and just managed to climb out to one place above relegation, 7 months later. Big Sam then left for England leaving behind a load of over-paid mediocre players that Moyes was unable to motivate.
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