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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 18:21:51 GMT
I'm going to be an Hairest here. Fuck off Kitson,you Ginger Cunt. As a ginger I'll allow it
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 11, 2018 18:34:59 GMT
To be fair, it's impossible to tell whether the bloke is saying 'Manc cunt' or 'black cunt'. Not really on to give him a trial by twitter under the circumstances. Sterling heard what was said and his actions since indicate what was said was indeed racist. It really wouldn’t surprise me at all if the guy giving the abuse to Sterling based on his skin colour idolised the likes of Drogba and thinks Kante is one of the midfielders in the world right now, but his stupid tribalistic mindset makes him think it’s ok to abuse Sterling because he’s the ‘opposition’. Fair enough then- the racist cunt deserves whatever's coming to him.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 11, 2018 18:35:29 GMT
Racism happens in all forms of life and not just football , it’s a cancer that cannot be cured , there’s not a chance in hell of stamping it out There isn’t with that attitude. What attitude I’m just saying the truth , it will never be stopped
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 11, 2018 18:38:33 GMT
Racism happens in all forms of life and not just football , it’s a cancer that cannot be cured , there’s not a chance in hell of stamping it out You can try though? Your solution seems to be ‘shit happens, let it carry on, it doesn’t really matter, he’s well paid anyway’. I’m not saying that at all , racists are in all walks of life , especially sports stars , film stars and tv celebrity’s to name just a few are all easy targets for the racists
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Post by leicspotter on Dec 11, 2018 19:07:17 GMT
seems to have upset a few people with his "incite" into the Raheem Sterling racial abuse issue. Dave Kitson and Talk Shite...made for each other
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Post by emmbrook1956 on Dec 11, 2018 19:11:01 GMT
Absolutely. Can’t stand him. I was listening to his analysis on EFL football and waiting for him to be disrespectful towards SCFC.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Dec 11, 2018 19:13:40 GMT
Thought the same thing. He's either happily dishonest to get attention or a real twat. I'm guessing the latter.
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 11, 2018 19:20:27 GMT
What’s with his new accent? Fucking proper weird bloke.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 19:25:35 GMT
Thought the same thing. He's either happily dishonest to get attention or a real twat. I'm guessing the latter. I'll go for the latter. If these scumbags get so angered and jealous over Sterling's lifestyle... Then race has nothing to do with it. So why involve it? Kitson is a cunt. Folk got fed up of the secret footballer coz they found out it was only Dave,and he's desperate to retain some sense of importance and relevance. Him and talk sport are a good fit actually
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Post by Billybigbollox on Dec 11, 2018 19:33:10 GMT
Cunt.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 11, 2018 19:59:13 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 11, 2018 20:03:59 GMT
You can try though? Your solution seems to be ‘shit happens, let it carry on, it doesn’t really matter, he’s well paid anyway’. I’m not saying that at all , racists are in all walks of life , especially sports stars , film stars and tv celebrity’s to name just a few are all easy targets for the racists I think what Tox and others are saying is it's pretty easy for football to have a zero tolerance to racism, and it's the right thing to do, given it's history. You are right about never stopping it in general life. Some people are just going to have weird prejudices. I still hear the 'n' word, regularly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 20:16:10 GMT
Monye's missed Bazza's point almost completely.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 11, 2018 20:27:12 GMT
You can try though? Your solution seems to be ‘shit happens, let it carry on, it doesn’t really matter, he’s well paid anyway’. I’m not saying that at all , racists are in all walks of life , especially sports stars , film stars and tv celebrity’s to name just a few are all easy targets for the racists What are you saying exactly? That because they’re everywhere we shouldn’t try and do anything about it?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 11, 2018 21:39:18 GMT
Sterling heard what was said and his actions since indicate what was said was indeed racist. It really wouldn’t surprise me at all if the guy giving the abuse to Sterling based on his skin colour idolised the likes of Drogba and thinks Kante is one of the midfielders in the world right now, but his stupid tribalistic mindset makes him think it’s ok to abuse Sterling because he’s the ‘opposition’. I think that opens up a really interesting discussion to the parameters of racism and other forms of verbal abuse. This is just me thinking out loud but I do find the topic pretty interesting. Is yelling "black cunt!" to someone racist? Of course it is, and is rightfully condoned. But we've all been to football matches in the heat of the moment and have experienced the tribalism, us vs you mentality that engulfed in the culture. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, but has this bloke picked the most obvious physical attribute of Sterling to use as an off-the-cuff insult? That’s very much along the lines of what I’m thinking. How likely is it that the same guy racially abuses any black Chelsea players that go near his vicinity? I’d say not very.
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 11, 2018 21:51:40 GMT
Does it matter? The fact that he now writes for The Sun suggests that whatever he said was total bollocks. Yeah true.
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Post by woodstein on Dec 11, 2018 22:25:05 GMT
Good to see that ginger bellend making similar waves in the press as he did up front for us. Certified nonce. You are a Gingerist!
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Post by Gods on Dec 11, 2018 22:28:38 GMT
Well said Pep.
Gave you the uncomfortable truth, straight between the eyes.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 11, 2018 22:39:17 GMT
“Former Stoke City striker Dave Kitson” is a bit like saying “former Stoke City striker Michael Owen”.
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Dec 11, 2018 23:16:09 GMT
I think that opens up a really interesting discussion to the parameters of racism and other forms of verbal abuse. This is just me thinking out loud but I do find the topic pretty interesting. Is yelling "black cunt!" to someone racist? Of course it is, and is rightfully condoned. But we've all been to football matches in the heat of the moment and have experienced the tribalism, us vs you mentality that engulfed in the culture. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, but has this bloke picked the most obvious physical attribute of Sterling to use as an off-the-cuff insult? That’s very much along the lines of what I’m thinking. How likely is it that the same guy racially abuses any black Chelsea players that go near his vicinity? I’d say not very. Assuming he said “black cunt” simply because the player near to him is black then does he scream “white cunt” when a white player passes his way ? I don’t know but I suspect not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 23:36:05 GMT
“Former Stoke City striker Dave Kitson” is a bit like saying “former Stoke City striker Michael Owen”. Noticed that. Surely he is more familiar with Reading? Should have just said "irrelevant cunt Dave Barry Kitson"
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 11, 2018 23:51:44 GMT
Weird thread this.
Let's deflect from the main issue (white middle aged men who should know better hurling racist abuse at a young successful footballer) by turning into a thread about Dave Kitson.
Nothing to do with the fact that a lot of unsuccessful middle aged men hate the fact that a young black man has been more successful than they have and that going to a football match gives them an excuse to spew they racist bile in the hope there will be no consequences and that the media and like minded middle aged racists might deflect attention from the main issue?
No. That's not how it works.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 12, 2018 3:44:41 GMT
How some people think about the same player in different 2 situations: - He is black cunt playing for an opponent Man City - He is our hero playing for our national team in World Cup The wired thing is that mostly they are mature enough 50-60 years old. Weird, isn't it? The stuff I have heard over the years, I couldn't repeat. Some was said to me until they realised my missus was black. The reversing when they found out was quite funny, to say the least. Yes i mean Weird "Language Barrier", I really dont know how someone judge another one based on his/her skin color.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 5:32:05 GMT
I’m not saying that at all , racists are in all walks of life , especially sports stars , film stars and tv celebrity’s to name just a few are all easy targets for the racists What are you saying exactly? That because they’re everywhere we shouldn’t try and do anything about it? Good luck on your quest
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2018 6:19:48 GMT
What are you saying exactly? That because they’re everywhere we shouldn’t try and do anything about it? Good luck on your quest No, you’re right, it’s everywhere so we should just all shut up about it, he’s rich anyway, right?
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 7:09:14 GMT
No, you’re right, it’s everywhere so we should just all shut up about it, he’s rich anyway, right? Oh dear you need to give your head a serious wobble , I don’t know what planet your on but it’s not this one , racism has been happening for thousand of years and will continue to do so , so if you want to shut your eyes and ears to it then I suggest you emigrate to the North Pole , merry Xmas
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2018 7:58:25 GMT
No, you’re right, it’s everywhere so we should just all shut up about it, he’s rich anyway, right? Oh dear you need to give your head a serious wobble , I don’t know what planet your on but it’s not this one , racism has been happening for thousand of years and will continue to do so , so if you want to shut your eyes and ears to it then I suggest you emigrate to the North Pole , merry Xmas How am I the one shutting my eyes and ears to it? Your whole message on the thread has been 'shit happens, what are you going to do, he's rich anyway and people who are rich should just put up with it'?
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2018 10:07:28 GMT
That’s very much along the lines of what I’m thinking. How likely is it that the same guy racially abuses any black Chelsea players that go near his vicinity? I’d say not very. Assuming he said “black cunt” simply because the player near to him is black then does he scream “white cunt” when a white player passes his way ? I don’t know but I suspect not. It’s not really the point I’m getting at. I’d say it’s very likely that the same guy giving Sterling the racial abuse applauds Kante other non-white players that play for his team. It’s the tribalism mentaitly that’s the problem, how many players get stick for their physical attributes? Opposition player with long hair = gypo Opposition player with ginger hair = ginger cunt Unusually tall player like Crouch = freak Players deemed to be carrying a bit of extra weight =fat bastard’. Some fans (wrongfully) will say anything to try and upset the opposition. It’s a mentality that needs changing.
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Post by ballboytoday on Dec 12, 2018 11:28:18 GMT
Racism in any walks of life is not good. but if that had been say John Stones in that situation instead of Sterling do you think the Chelsea fans would be patting him on the back, no they would have abused him as well so its not really a racist thing its abuse from fans to an opposing player goes on all the time I am afraid but gets highlighted more when a black player is abused. John Terry at Stoke springs to mind. They wouldn't have brought race into it though if it was Stones would they? It wasn't racist it was general abuse.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 12, 2018 11:30:57 GMT
Assuming he said “black cunt” simply because the player near to him is black then does he scream “white cunt” when a white player passes his way ? I don’t know but I suspect not. It’s not really the point I’m getting at. I’d say it’s very likely that the same guy giving Sterling the racial abuse applauds Kante other non-white players that play for his team. It’s the tribalism mentaitly that’s the problem, how many players get stick for their physical attributes? Opposition player with long hair = gypo Opposition player with ginger hair = ginger cunt Unusually tall player like Crouch = freak Players deemed to be carrying a bit of extra weight =fat bastard’. Some fans (wrongfully) will say anything to try and upset the opposition. It’s a mentality that needs changing. Football and tribalism go hand in hand. I don't see that changing.
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