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Post by ballboytoday on Dec 12, 2018 11:32:22 GMT
They wouldn't have brought race into it though if it was Stones would they? Spot on. I have been abused many times in my life (dunno why - I'm very easy to get on with ) I've been accused many times of being a c**t or a bastard - but I have never been called a white c**t or a white bastard! Unlike my partner for 7 years who was Anglo Indian - she got accused of being Paki this and Paki that if ever she upset one of the Neanderthal tendency on a night out. EDIT: I realise that last comment is probably very unfair to the original Neanderthals. Would it have bothered you if someone called you a white c**t or white bastard Don't think it would really bother me.
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Post by ballboytoday on Dec 12, 2018 11:41:36 GMT
Agree it is just a form of abuse, ginger c**t, fat bastard, lanky bastard, black bastard all forms of abuse not necessary racist though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 11:57:35 GMT
I don't think black people use white as a derogatory term though do they ? Whites do when they call someone a black cunt
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 12, 2018 11:58:45 GMT
It’s not really the point I’m getting at. I’d say it’s very likely that the same guy giving Sterling the racial abuse applauds Kante other non-white players that play for his team. It’s the tribalism mentaitly that’s the problem, how many players get stick for their physical attributes? Opposition player with long hair = gypo Opposition player with ginger hair = ginger cunt Unusually tall player like Crouch = freak Players deemed to be carrying a bit of extra weight =fat bastard’. Some fans (wrongfully) will say anything to try and upset the opposition. It’s a mentality that needs changing. Football and tribalism go hand in hand. I don't see that changing. Yeah definitely, the tribalism is what makes football so appealing but I think that how far some people will go in terms of abuse needs tweaking.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 14:50:18 GMT
Oh dear you need to give your head a serious wobble , I don’t know what planet your on but it’s not this one , racism has been happening for thousand of years and will continue to do so , so if you want to shut your eyes and ears to it then I suggest you emigrate to the North Pole , merry Xmas How am I the one shutting my eyes and ears to it? Your whole message on the thread has been 'shit happens, what are you going to do, he's rich anyway and people who are rich should just put up with it'? Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2018 14:53:23 GMT
They wouldn't have brought race into it though if it was Stones would they? It wasn't racist it was general abuse. You know that for a fact do you? Sterling seems to think differently...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2018 14:54:16 GMT
How am I the one shutting my eyes and ears to it? Your whole message on the thread has been 'shit happens, what are you going to do, he's rich anyway and people who are rich should just put up with it'? Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 You don't even know what point you're arguing anymore. Just because it happens doesn't mean you shrug your shoulders.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 12, 2018 14:54:30 GMT
How am I the one shutting my eyes and ears to it? Your whole message on the thread has been 'shit happens, what are you going to do, he's rich anyway and people who are rich should just put up with it'? Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 Usually when shit happens people do things to try and make sure it doesn't happen again.
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Post by philm87 on Dec 12, 2018 15:22:21 GMT
Agree it is just a form of abuse, ginger c**t, fat bastard, lanky bastard, black bastard all forms of abuse not necessary racist though. It's because of people like you with really, really low IQs that we keep having to have the same debates over and over and fucking over.
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Post by cheadlepotter on Dec 12, 2018 17:03:39 GMT
I don't think black people use white as a derogatory term though do they ? Whites do when they call someone a black cunt They actually do, and this assumption that only white people can be racist is doing nobody any favours. We can’t fix the problem of racism by adding more racism.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 17:13:46 GMT
I don't think black people use white as a derogatory term though do they ? Whites do when they call someone a black cunt They actually do, and this assumption that only white people can be racist is doing nobody any favours. We can’t fix the problem of racism by adding more racism. I'm aware any race can be racist, it's just I've never heard 'white' used that way....and I doubt any would be offended except for the snowiest of snowflakes 😊
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 12, 2018 17:38:05 GMT
Spot on. I have been abused many times in my life (dunno why - I'm very easy to get on with ) I've been accused many times of being a c**t or a bastard - but I have never been called a white c**t or a white bastard! Unlike my partner for 7 years who was Anglo Indian - she got accused of being Paki this and Paki that if ever she upset one of the Neanderthal tendency on a night out. EDIT: I realise that last comment is probably very unfair to the original Neanderthals. Would it have bothered you if someone called you a white c**t or white bastard Don't think it would really bother me. As a one off, probably no. If you lived in a predominantly non-white area, and faced such prejudice almost every day of your life, then I reckon it would.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 17:59:33 GMT
Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 Usually when shit happens people do things to try and make sure it doesn't happen again. Good luck on that one
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 18:02:56 GMT
Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 You don't even know what point you're arguing anymore. Just because it happens doesn't mean you shrug your shoulders. Your right I don’t know what point I’m arguing anymore as your drivel is boring me shitless , but next time your making your speech on the perfect world I live in , il listen in
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 12, 2018 18:21:41 GMT
Spot on. I have been abused many times in my life (dunno why - I'm very easy to get on with ) I've been accused many times of being a c**t or a bastard - but I have never been called a white c**t or a white bastard! Unlike my partner for 7 years who was Anglo Indian - she got accused of being Paki this and Paki that if ever she upset one of the Neanderthal tendency on a night out. EDIT: I realise that last comment is probably very unfair to the original Neanderthals. Would it have bothered you if someone called you a white c**t or white bastard Don't think it would really bother me. I have no idea if it would bother me until it happened. However, if any insults were nearly always preceeded by the word 'white' used obviously in a perjorative way then, yes, it would bother me that a substantial number of people thought it mattered whether my skin was white or black (or yellow or any other colour for that matter). It is up to me how I behave and, if my behaviour upsets people then I can tackle that problem head on. But if someone chooses to abuse me for my colour then there is nothing I can do to change things and it WOULD really bother me if someone thought it was a good idea to abuse me in respect of the colour of my skin. If it wouldn't bother you then you are made of sterner stuff than I am. so well done, but don't expect me to be so thick skinned.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 12, 2018 21:47:06 GMT
You don't even know what point you're arguing anymore. Just because it happens doesn't mean you shrug your shoulders. Your right I don’t know what point I’m arguing anymore as your drivel is boring me shitless , but next time your making your speech on the perfect world I live in , il listen in Maybe you could try and argue against the stuff I’ve actually said, rather than making shit up that I haven’t.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 12, 2018 22:00:32 GMT
How am I the one shutting my eyes and ears to it? Your whole message on the thread has been 'shit happens, what are you going to do, he's rich anyway and people who are rich should just put up with it'? Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 Where do you draw the line with 'shit happens' Paedophilia? I mean, that goes on the real world too!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 12, 2018 22:02:54 GMT
Would it have bothered you if someone called you a white c**t or white bastard Don't think it would really bother me. I have no idea if it would bother me until it happened. However, if any insults were nearly always preceeded by the word 'white' used obviously in a perjorative way then, yes, it would bother me that a substantial number of people thought it mattered whether my skin was white or black (or yellow or any other colour for that matter). It is up to me how I behave and, if my behaviour upsets people then I can tackle that problem head on. But if someone chooses to abuse me for my colour then there is nothing I can do to change things and it WOULD really bother me if someone thought it was a good idea to abuse me in respect of the colour of my skin. If it wouldn't bother you then you are made of sterner stuff than I am. so well done, but don't expect me to be so thick skinned. Were you ever called 'honky' back in the day?
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 23:16:41 GMT
Your right I don’t know what point I’m arguing anymore as your drivel is boring me shitless , but next time your making your speech on the perfect world I live in , il listen in Maybe you could try and argue against the stuff I’ve actually said, rather than making shit up that I haven’t. Save it for the playground , enjoy school tomorrow 😚
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 12, 2018 23:17:47 GMT
Course shit happens , you need to open your eyes to the real world , your going to quote me back and tell me you still believe in Santa 🎅🏻 Where do you draw the line with 'shit happens' Paedophilia? I mean, that goes on the real world too! And rape , and murder etc etc etc
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 13, 2018 7:56:36 GMT
Maybe you could try and argue against the stuff I’ve actually said, rather than making shit up that I haven’t. Save it for the playground , enjoy school tomorrow 😚 Say hi to your pals at Mensa for me won't you, professor?
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 13, 2018 18:45:29 GMT
Save it for the playground , enjoy school tomorrow 😚 Say hi to your pals at Mensa for me won't you, professor? Yes I will do and make sure you wrap up warm for your paper round In the morning 😚
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Post by felonious on Dec 14, 2018 12:33:22 GMT
I've seen this a few times, but it's still remarkable how this agenda-driven tirade against Raheem is allowed to happen. What's the motive for these big companies? People buy it. And believe it.... because they want to believe it. That's why it's allowed to happen. People like a villain. And Sterling just fits that bill. The fact the villainous profile has been created by a tabloid press looking for a victim doesn't seem to matter. People love to hate and they get prompting from the obsessed gutter press. Perhaps people remember the way he left Liverpool. Does anyone remember the bile he got in that last game against Liverpool down at the Brit where he didn't know which end to warm up because of the abuse?
Diving doesn't help either. He needs to take up ballet to help with his balance.
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Post by pb1863 on Dec 14, 2018 21:53:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 22:07:27 GMT
It's not all Black & White for me...
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 14, 2018 22:17:01 GMT
Shit happens ! Literally.
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Post by woodstein on Dec 14, 2018 22:56:50 GMT
I don't think black people use white as a derogatory term though do they ? Whites do when they call someone a black cunt I'm sure many do. Many asians certainly do as folk I know have suffered it.
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Post by woodstein on Dec 14, 2018 23:00:17 GMT
Chelsea fans now in the news for anti Semitic chants about Spurs. Nothing new there but even Tottenham fans call themselves the Yid army.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 14, 2018 23:10:44 GMT
Chelsea fans now in the news for anti Semitic chants about Spurs. Nothing new there but even Tottenham fans call themselves the Yid army.True - some Spurs fans do call themselves the Yid Army. But as far as I know you aren't breaking any laws if you "insult" yourself. Some blacks use the N word about themselves (in an attempt to "own" the word) - but that doesn't mean that whites can use it without being considered racist. As I understand the Chelsea chants last night included the line "Spurs are on their way to Auschwitz" and it is bloody difficult to call that anything but extreme and obscene anti - semitism.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 15, 2018 0:12:11 GMT
Chelsea fans now in the news for anti Semitic chants about Spurs. Nothing new there but even Tottenham fans call themselves the Yid army. Its like the difference between taking the piss out of yourself and taking the piss out of somebody else. It's not the same thing.
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