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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 10, 2018 12:27:31 GMT
Wow just wow. So if you had the choice you wouldn't choose to be black? As another poster said he comes across really well in interviews, even self-effacing, nothing like how the media built him up to be. It's John Barnes all over again, both of Jamaican heritage. Just because we have laws, about hate speech and discrimination, does not mean it has gone away! You have misread me. You don't choose your skin colour, or your ethnicity. You can choose how you vote in a referendum. No I didn't hence the >>>
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Post by ProctorDre on Dec 10, 2018 12:40:16 GMT
If there is racial abuse it's imbecilic, but he is not a very likeable person or a responsible adult. Why isn't he likeable? And why isn't he a responsible adult? Because....the Daily Mail says so
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 10, 2018 14:14:04 GMT
You have misread me. You don't choose your skin colour, or your ethnicity. You can choose how you vote in a referendum. No I didn't hence the >>> Oh apologies. When I read it the face didn't show properly.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 10, 2018 14:28:21 GMT
Wow just wow. So if you had the choice you wouldn't choose to be black? As another poster said he comes across really well in interviews, even self-effacing, nothing like how the media built him up to be. It's John Barnes all over again, both of Jamaican heritage. Just because we have laws, about hate speech and discrimination, does not mean it has gone away! You have misread me. You don't choose your skin colour, or your ethnicity. You can choose how you vote in a referendum. Can you choose your religion?
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Post by Gods on Dec 10, 2018 14:43:49 GMT
I'm surprised no one has made the link in this thread, unless I have missed it, with the treatment Saido gets in the press which is in some ways in line with Raheem albeit he is now a much lower profile player. Saido has certainly been portrayed as a cock happy flash bugger pissing money up the wall while offering little of note on the field of play. You might argue he has done much to deserve that but there is no doubt the press have had him man marked and are in cahoots with various 'kiss and tell' girls to lure him in. It doesn't seem to have happened this season but that may simply be that once you are outside the Prem you are no longer of national interest. This kind of thing: Berahino welcomes 3 children in 6 weeks
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 15:07:18 GMT
I'm surprised no one has made the link in this thread, unless I have missed it, with the treatment Saido gets in the press which is in some ways in line with Raheem albeit he is now a much lower profile player. Saido has certainly been portrayed as a cock happy flash bugger pissing money up the wall while offering little of note on the field of play. You might argue he has done much to deserve that but there is no doubt the press have had him man marked and are in cahoots with various 'kiss and tell' girls to lure him in. It doesn't seem to have happened this season but that may simply be that once you are outside the Prem you are no longer of national interest. This kind of thing: Berahino welcomes 3 children in 6 weeksThere was an Afobe one as well.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 10, 2018 15:09:25 GMT
For £300 grand a week il give my fone number out and they can ring me up and abuse me
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 10, 2018 15:24:02 GMT
Isn’t sectarianism a form of racism ? To condemn a person for his nationality his religious beliefs and because of his personal beliefs ? If so, a lot of contributors who are condemning the treatment that Stirling and other coloured players receive need to take a long hard look in the mirror.
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Post by thanksjon on Dec 10, 2018 15:40:17 GMT
I read recently that Sterling might collapse after Brexit,let's see the press he gets then.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 10, 2018 15:43:19 GMT
For £300 grand a week il give my fone number out and they can ring me up and abuse me How about physically assaulted outside your place of work?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 10, 2018 15:52:42 GMT
For £300 grand a week il give my fone number out and they can ring me up and abuse me So you stop being a human being after a specific wage is agreed do you? What a load of shit.
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Post by FranktheRabbit on Dec 10, 2018 15:58:51 GMT
For £300 grand a week il give my fone number out and they can ring me up and abuse me So you stop being a human being after a specific wage is agreed do you? What a load of shit. Agreed! Some people are unbelievable.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 10, 2018 16:08:43 GMT
Isn’t sectarianism a form of racism ? To condemn a person for his nationality his religious beliefs and because of his personal beliefs ? If so, a lot of contributors who are condemning the treatment that Stirling and other coloured players receive need to take a long hard look in the mirror. No, condemning a person for nationality or beliefs is not racism. Clue's in the name like
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Post by metalhead on Dec 10, 2018 16:12:29 GMT
Sterling has been utterly bullied in the media and not just the right wing press, but the press as a whole. The Daily Mail infamously ran two articles in the space of a few months.... one where they tore him apart for buying his mother an expensive house, another where they ran an article about him shopping in Poundland.... proof that Sterling can't win, whatever he does. Shock.... footballer is actually human and doesn't mind walking into a shop full of proletariat 'Povvos'. Ironically, it's the kind of wannabe upper class that write for the Daily Mail, that wouldn't be seen dead near a fucking Poundland. Sterling, who comes from a humble background has actually maintained a few human qualities despite earning a shit load of money. No, that's not enough for the Daily Mail, they've dehumanised him repeatedly for no real reason whatsoever... so people draw their own conclusions from that.
It could be very well be overt racism. However, my Man City supporting mate is convinced it's over the way he left Liverpool. The papers are terrified of touching Liverpool these days and you tend to find coverage of the dipper is very favourable. They fucked up heavily over Hillsborough (people only remember The Sun, but it wasn't just them) and have been paying the price ever since. How else did Michael Shields get such favourable media coverage, when it's an almost open secret that he was 100% guilty of dropping a concrete block on an innocent Bulgarian's head? Sterling left Liverpool in fairly ropey circumstances and is routinely targeted by the Mail, the BBC, and quite a few of the others. Actually, it's the Guardian, who I utterly despise, who appear to give Sterling a fair crack most of the time.
My respect has grown for Sterling a lot.... him being a diver doesn't mean he deserves to be assaulted outside his place of work.
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Post by miggoscfc on Dec 10, 2018 16:27:37 GMT
I see Kitson is piling it on him now on TS. Basically summed it up by saying Sterling was asking for trouble by being flash on social media. The fucking balls on him he has just basically said the equivalent of a bird is asking for it because of what she wears.
Kitson is becoming the Katie Hopkins of football he will say anything dispicable just to get attention the prick.
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Post by mrred on Dec 10, 2018 16:29:59 GMT
Just a few examples of the media being the media.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Dec 10, 2018 16:47:22 GMT
I see Kitson is piling it on him now on TS. Basically summed it up by saying Sterling was asking for trouble by being flash on social media. The fucking balls on him he has just basically said the equivalent of a bird is asking for it because of what she wears. Kitson is becoming the Katie Hopkins of football he will say anything dispicable just to get attention the prick. If there's a link to his interview, I'd love to hear it. Kitson has turned into a prize cunt.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Dec 10, 2018 16:48:24 GMT
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Dec 10, 2018 17:00:39 GMT
I'm surprised no one has made the link in this thread, unless I have missed it, with the treatment Saido gets in the press which is in some ways in line with Raheem albeit he is now a much lower profile player. Saido has certainly been portrayed as a cock happy flash bugger pissing money up the wall while offering little of note on the field of play. You might argue he has done much to deserve that but there is no doubt the press have had him man marked and are in cahoots with various 'kiss and tell' girls to lure him in. It doesn't seem to have happened this season but that may simply be that once you are outside the Prem you are no longer of national interest. This kind of thing: Berahino welcomes 3 children in 6 weeksThe tabloid press took delight in hammering Rooney, and for quite a large part of his career in the English football, Beckham. They'll throw anyone to the rabid pack that makes up their readership if they smell blood. Just so happens that said rabid pack has a substantial racist element that likes to be fed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 17:29:14 GMT
I'm surprised no one has made the link in this thread, unless I have missed it, with the treatment Saido gets in the press which is in some ways in line with Raheem albeit he is now a much lower profile player. Saido has certainly been portrayed as a cock happy flash bugger pissing money up the wall while offering little of note on the field of play. You might argue he has done much to deserve that but there is no doubt the press have had him man marked and are in cahoots with various 'kiss and tell' girls to lure him in. It doesn't seem to have happened this season but that may simply be that once you are outside the Prem you are no longer of national interest. This kind of thing: Berahino welcomes 3 children in 6 weeksThe tabloid press took delight in hammering Rooney, and for quite a large part of his career in the English football, Beckham. They'll throw anyone to the rabid pack that makes up their readership if they smell blood. Just so happens that said rabid pack has a substantial racist element that likes to be fed. Didn't Rooney get slammed for shagging Granny's and drink driving? Rather than buying his old dear a mansion? Says it all really.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 10, 2018 18:16:28 GMT
For £300 grand a week il give my fone number out and they can ring me up and abuse me So you stop being a human being after a specific wage is agreed do you? What a load of shit. Racism is wrong of course it is , but it’s ok to have a go at someone’s size , looks , colour of there hair etc , but yes if I was on £300 grand a week I wouldn’t give a toss
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 10, 2018 18:21:00 GMT
So you stop being a human being after a specific wage is agreed do you? What a load of shit. Racism is wrong of course it is , but it’s ok to have a go at someone’s size , looks , colour of there hair etc , but yes if I was on £300 grand a week I wouldn’t give a toss It’s easy to say that when you’re not subject to it. The treatment of him in the press and from morons like that Chelsea fan needs stamping out, not explaining away.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 10, 2018 18:41:07 GMT
Racism is wrong of course it is , but it’s ok to have a go at someone’s size , looks , colour of there hair etc , but yes if I was on £300 grand a week I wouldn’t give a toss It’s easy to say that when you’re not subject to it. The treatment of him in the press and from morons like that Chelsea fan needs stamping out, not explaining away. Look I totally agree , as a teenager growing up in the seventies I witnessed first hand the abuse to black players while following stoke , our very own Garth crooks got abused home and away , monkey noises , bananas thrown on the pitch etc , it’s no where near as bad now but we wil never ever get rid of it in football
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Dec 10, 2018 18:46:21 GMT
You have misread me. You don't choose your skin colour, or your ethnicity. You can choose how you vote in a referendum. Can you choose your religion? well you could, but where is this debate going? Somebody getting abuse because they voted to Leave in the EU referendum is not on the same planet as someone getting abuse because they're black, or they're muslim, or they're gay.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Dec 10, 2018 18:53:54 GMT
Can you choose your religion? well you could, but where is this debate going? Somebody getting abuse because they voted to Leave in the EU referendum is not on the same planet as someone getting abuse because they're black, or they're muslim, or they're gay. Why should people respect a religion more than a political choice? I agree on the other two, by the way.
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Post by dastokie on Dec 10, 2018 18:59:54 GMT
No white player has been slated by the press. Though only have been positive towards them.
reference: Adams, Merson, Gascoigne, Marsh, Hudson and Best to nae a few who have never been berated for their lifestyle.
All of the above had never had verbal abuse aimed at them,
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Post by onefatcopper on Dec 10, 2018 19:03:18 GMT
Isn’t sectarianism a form of racism ? To condemn a person for his nationality his religious beliefs and because of his personal beliefs ? If so, a lot of contributors who are condemning the treatment that Stirling and other coloured players receive need to take a long hard look in the mirror. No, condemning a person for nationality or beliefs is not racism. Clue's in the name like Sectarianism is a form of bigotry, bigotry is a form of racism, clue do your research like !
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Post by mrred on Dec 10, 2018 19:11:58 GMT
I see Kitson is piling it on him now on TS. Basically summed it up by saying Sterling was asking for trouble by being flash on social media. The fucking balls on him he has just basically said the equivalent of a bird is asking for it because of what she wears. Kitson is becoming the Katie Hopkins of football he will say anything dispicable just to get attention the prick. If there's a link to his interview, I'd love to hear it. Kitson has turned into a prize cunt. Don't know about the interview today but he was on there on Saturday saying he'd searched through Sterling's social media and he'd deleted all his old posts about being flashy and gauche. Seems to be his job now, sensationalist media rat.
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Post by PotterLog on Dec 10, 2018 19:24:51 GMT
No, condemning a person for nationality or beliefs is not racism. Clue's in the name like Sectarianism is a form of bigotry, bigotry is a form of racism, clue do your research like ! That is truly atrocious logic.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Dec 10, 2018 19:44:14 GMT
How some people think about the same player in different 2 situations: - He is black cunt playing for an opponent Man City - He is our hero playing for our national team in World Cup
The wired thing is that mostly they are mature enough 50-60 years old.
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