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Post by jordan9915 on Sept 23, 2018 7:59:02 GMT
I can’t be the only stoke fan who think this. Sure, it’s been a difficult start to the season, but we’ve got a young ambitious manager who has overachieved at every club he’s been at. I think the football he wants to play is coming out in 20/30 minute spells and if we can change that into 60/70 minute spells we’ll pick up points. Wether you like to admit it or not we’re finally putting the ball in the back of the net, and it’s our defence that is letting us down. And he’s right when he says ‘individual mistakes’. The one criticism I’ve got of GR is why he’s sticking with the same back 4 that are making the individual mistakes, but if you’ve listened to his post match interview, you’ll know that he’s thinking about making changes. The last thing, I love Bauer like every stoke fan, but if there are rules about social media, you’ve got to stick to them, the only other player is charlie Adam, and he isn’t in the team either. There’s a little bit of frustration out!
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Post by fca47 on Sept 23, 2018 8:01:57 GMT
Rowett in - the shit?
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Post by chuckrocky on Sept 23, 2018 8:03:06 GMT
How did he overachieve at Derby?
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 23, 2018 8:03:29 GMT
Even paul lambert did better, in the premier league, with a worse set of players
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2018 8:05:27 GMT
If he's such a good manager he will keep his trap shut on internal affairs.
He's a man hanging on the edge of the cliff and he will take everyone over with him.
He has won nothing in his career but I do feel that he has a bit part mentality in that because the club was in such a state from the start of his reign he feels he can get away with heavy handed managerial tactics.
Don't agree with it myself as we are a club who are on the spotlight at the moment and as a manager you should be prepared to publicly shoulder the blame but instead we get in every single media interview a manager who is happy to name and shame players and to constant brow beat his team, whether he feels he will win more praise for his honesty who knows
I don't like that and from past endeavours the board do not impress when the laundry is aired in public.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:05:54 GMT
It's frustrating bit I'm still with him.
The goals we keep conceding needs sorting and Rowett has spoken about this.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:08:34 GMT
If he's such a good manager he will keep his trap shut on internal affairs. He's a man hanging on the edge of the cliff and he will take everyone over with him. He has won nothing in his career but I do feel that he has a bit part mentality in that because the club was in such a state from the start of his reign he feels he can get away with heavy handed managerial tactics. Don't agree with it myself as we are a club who are on the spotlight at the moment and as a manager you should be prepared to publicly shoulder the blame but instead we get in every single media interview a manager who is happy to name and shame players and to constant brow beat his team, whether he feels he will win more praise for his honesty who knows I don't like that and from past endeavours the board do not impress when the laundry is aired in public. When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. |
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2018 8:09:11 GMT
It's frustrating bit I'm still with him. The goals we keep conceding needs sorting and Rowett has spoken about this. So stop picking shawcross and porters and change the team. When's his decision to pick players who are not good enough he cannot moan when they are making woeful mistakes and as he's keen to point out this has been happening since last year |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:11:18 GMT
It's frustrating bit I'm still with him. The goals we keep conceding needs sorting and Rowett has spoken about this. So stop picking shawcross and porters and change the team. When's his decision to pick players who are not good enough he cannot moan when they are making woeful mistakes and as he's keen to point out this has been happening since last year He said as much in his interview yesterday and that he's going to have make these decisions now. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 23, 2018 8:11:58 GMT
He’s been terrible
Not addressing the defensive mess in the summer window was a huge mistake for me, all of the back 4 that played either are way out of form or just aren’t good enough anymore
This combined with baffling subs, playing Allen as a creative midfielder when he certainly isn’t and then to top it off publicly shaming his players is not the actions of a manager in control
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2018 8:12:38 GMT
If he's such a good manager he will keep his trap shut on internal affairs. He's a man hanging on the edge of the cliff and he will take everyone over with him. He has won nothing in his career but I do feel that he has a bit part mentality in that because the club was in such a state from the start of his reign he feels he can get away with heavy handed managerial tactics. Don't agree with it myself as we are a club who are on the spotlight at the moment and as a manager you should be prepared to publicly shoulder the blame but instead we get in every single media interview a manager who is happy to name and shame players and to constant brow beat his team, whether he feels he will win more praise for his honesty who knows I don't like that and from past endeavours the board do not impress when the laundry is aired in public. When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. But he's been posting that he's training hard, he hasn't publicly slated the manager for not picking him. As for rowett saying it's letting Blackburn know his team selection I'm sure they are shitting themselves if they'd have seen Bauer on the team sheet especially as he hasn't played for 2 months. The man's an idiot and he is constantly looking for a scapegoat to pin the pressure on. Rowett has reacted in a totally hypocritical manner by slating players far worse in his interviews and if anyone needs to look at the social media policy it's the manager. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 23, 2018 8:14:22 GMT
Most of his signings look good so I remain behind him for now.
Its our Premier League over-aged overpaid players that cant cut it in the Championship.
Shawcross, Indi, Pieters, Butland, Allen, Diouf all under-performing and none are actually Rowett signings.
Its certainly a weird thing how Rowett cant seem to get these players to play for him. Lack of respect or something else?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2018 8:14:55 GMT
I can’t be the only stoke fan who think this. Sure, it’s been a difficult start to the season, but we’ve got a young ambitious manager who has overachieved at every club he’s been at. I think the football he wants to play is coming out in 20/30 minute spells and if we can change that into 60/70 minute spells we’ll pick up points. Wether you like to admit it or not we’re finally putting the ball in the back of the net, and it’s our defence that is letting us down. And he’s right when he says ‘individual mistakes’. The one criticism I’ve got of GR is why he’s sticking with the same back 4 that are making the individual mistakes, but if you’ve listened to his post match interview, you’ll know that he’s thinking about making changes. The last thing, I love Bauer like every stoke fan, but if there are rules about social media, you’ve got to stick to them, the only other player is charlie Adam, and he isn’t in the team either. There’s a little bit of frustration out! What is the football he wants to play? Because I haven’t seen much of it. Setting up in a 4-3-3 is an enormous part of the problem. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:15:40 GMT
When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. But he's been posting that he's training hard, he hasn't publicly slated the manager for not picking him. As for rowett saying it's letting Blackburn know his team selection I'm sure they are shitting themselves if they'd have seen Bauer on the team sheet especially as he hasn't played for 2 months. The man's an idiot and he is constantly looking for a scapegoat to pin the pressure on. Rowett has reacted in a totally hypocritical manner by slating players far worse in his interviews and if anyone needs to look at the social media policy it's the manager. Can I ask, have you actually listened to the interview? Bauer has posted he's training hard but Rowett disagrees on what hard is. He didn't name Bauer until he was asked directly. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2018 8:15:56 GMT
If he's such a good manager he will keep his trap shut on internal affairs. He's a man hanging on the edge of the cliff and he will take everyone over with him. He has won nothing in his career but I do feel that he has a bit part mentality in that because the club was in such a state from the start of his reign he feels he can get away with heavy handed managerial tactics. Don't agree with it myself as we are a club who are on the spotlight at the moment and as a manager you should be prepared to publicly shoulder the blame but instead we get in every single media interview a manager who is happy to name and shame players and to constant brow beat his team, whether he feels he will win more praise for his honesty who knows I don't like that and from past endeavours the board do not impress when the laundry is aired in public. When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. Throwing the players under the bus every week doesn’t seem massively like ‘trying to keep it internal’. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:19:18 GMT
When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. Throwing the players under the bus every week doesn’t seem massively like ‘trying to keep it internal’. That was specifically in reply to the Bauer situation |
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2018 8:25:14 GMT
But he's been posting that he's training hard, he hasn't publicly slated the manager for not picking him. As for rowett saying it's letting Blackburn know his team selection I'm sure they are shitting themselves if they'd have seen Bauer on the team sheet especially as he hasn't played for 2 months. The man's an idiot and he is constantly looking for a scapegoat to pin the pressure on. Rowett has reacted in a totally hypocritical manner by slating players far worse in his interviews and if anyone needs to look at the social media policy it's the manager. Can I ask, have you actually listened to the interview? Bauer has posted he's training hard but Rowett disagrees on what hard is. He didn't name Bauer until he was asked directly. I listened to the interview on the way home from the game, mouth wide open. He was pressed by Nige to name Bauer out aloud but at this point should have been the bigger man and declined to name the player in question. To then become embroiled in a petulant comment about he would go and work hard for 20 minutes walking his dog is not the move of a manager in charge of sensitive issues at a football club. No comment or I'm not prepared to name is a better and more respectable comment than to then go onto to unpick somebody over a radio interview. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 8:25:16 GMT
One of the big issues at Stoke is keeping players to long. Shawcross is in danger of leaving Stoke on a sour note rather than a folk hero. Rowett should never slate him in public. We all know the issue he is not his former self but show the guy some respect.
We have signed to many big name Charlie's instead of going for more young and hungry players like Woods.
Sorry Rowett you should be gone!
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 23, 2018 8:25:52 GMT
What do the board do if this continues, do they stick or twist?.. personally I thought it was refreshing we went for a young, albeit unproven manager this time instead of the usual names.. there is no guarantee younger bosses mentioned like Dean Smith or Paul Cook would have faired any better. We will never know.. I just hope we give him a while longer but it does feel that many have decided he should go already.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 23, 2018 8:26:24 GMT
When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. Throwing the players under the bus every week doesn’t seem massively like ‘trying to keep it internal’. Unfortunately the bloody bus keeps swerving |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2018 8:27:39 GMT
Throwing the players under the bus every week doesn’t seem massively like ‘trying to keep it internal’. That was specifically in reply to the Bauer situation Either you keep things internal or you don’t, surely? His logic over the Bauer thing sounds like a man desperate to find yet another scapegoat. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:27:54 GMT
Can I ask, have you actually listened to the interview? Bauer has posted he's training hard but Rowett disagrees on what hard is. He didn't name Bauer until he was asked directly. I listened to the interview on the way home from the game, mouth wide open. He was pressed by Nige to name Bauer out aloud but at this point should have been the bigger man and declined to name the player in question. To then become embroiled in a petulant comment about he would go and work hard for 20 minutes walking his dog is not the move of a manager in charge of sensitive issues at a football club. No comment or I'm not prepared to name is a better and more respectable comment than to then go onto to unpick somebody over a radio interview. It is, up until a point though or does he just say no comment forever? There's a reason why Bauer has subsequently deleted the post. If he thought he was in the right |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 23, 2018 8:28:17 GMT
Most of his signings look good so I remain behind him for now. Its our Premier League over-aged overpaid players that cant cut it in the Championship. Shawcross, Indi, Pieters, Butland, Allen, Diouf all under-performing and none are actually Rowett signings. Its certainly a weird thing how Rowett cant seem to get these players to play for him. Lack of respect or something else? This. I think it’s more a case of them being found out. They struggled last season until Lambert made us ultra negative. They should have the basics to defend and play football but they don’t. Ryan was ok when he had Faye and Huth besides him but since his back injuries he’s really struggled. One of his biggest problems though is his lack of ability with the ball at his feet and this is where Williams needs to come in. Every time a 50 yard ball is hoofed down the pitch he’ll put it out of play rather than pick it up and start to build a new attack. Every time he has the ball from Jack he’ll either knock it back or punt it aimlesly forward d. Eric. Never hides but he’s full of mistakes and his confidence is shot. There is no cover so he knows he’ll be in every game. He’s got so used to losing every week he’s probably stopped enjoying his footy and it shows. Indi. Used to think he was great but often injured now and when he comes in playing like he’s never switched on. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Sept 23, 2018 8:29:13 GMT
That was specifically in reply to the Bauer situation Either you keep things internal or you don’t, surely? His logic over the Bauer thing sounds like a man desperate to find yet another scapegoat. There has to come a point where it doesn't stay internal if people aren't listening? As previous post, there's a reason why Bauer deleted his post. |
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Post by adamsson on Sept 23, 2018 8:31:02 GMT
Started badly and not getting any better the question is change now or wait for the complete collapse
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 8:34:11 GMT
I genuinely believe he will sort this mess out. He’s inhereted an absolute shambles of a club. Players that don’t want to be here. Chief execs and a pie eater that want to buy players for him. And a team rock bottom on confidence. We have to get through this rough time and allow him to stamp his authority on this squad
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 23, 2018 8:35:02 GMT
When players are airing their laundry in public it's a very difficult situation, particularly if they've been told about it a few times. He's tried to keep it internal and this advice hasn't been heeded. Throwing the players under the bus every week doesn’t seem massively like ‘trying to keep it internal’. spot on, like Pulis or not, like Hughes or not, Macari also...... I never once heard any of them publicly shame their players, there will be some players other than the ones shamed very unhappy about these comments |
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Post by stokeykez on Sept 23, 2018 8:35:17 GMT
I listened to the interview on the way home from the game, mouth wide open. He was pressed by Nige to name Bauer out aloud but at this point should have been the bigger man and declined to name the player in question. To then become embroiled in a petulant comment about he would go and work hard for 20 minutes walking his dog is not the move of a manager in charge of sensitive issues at a football club. No comment or I'm not prepared to name is a better and more respectable comment than to then go onto to unpick somebody over a radio interview. It is, up until a point though or does he just say no comment forever? There's a reason why Bauer has subsequently deleted the post. If he thought he was in the right He just seems as though once he's thrown shit over one person he then loses all self control and whether he feels he will be better thought of by ousting others goes on to fling shit over anyone he can mention. Do get the feeling of a Kevin Keegan 'i would just love it' panic moment with him. Say nothing, those who know will know who he is on about. I disagree with his managerial tactic but I'm sure there will be some who think he is right in doing this. When it comes to employment tribunal none of this will go to support him as a manager |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2018 8:36:47 GMT
Either you keep things internal or you don’t, surely? His logic over the Bauer thing sounds like a man desperate to find yet another scapegoat. There has to come a point where it doesn't stay internal if people aren't listening? As previous post, there's a reason why Bauer deleted his post. People frequently delete their posts if they’ve caused controversy, whoever’s right or wrong. It seems an enormous overreaction from a bloke feeling the pressure. |
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Post by maliciousdamage on Sept 23, 2018 8:37:14 GMT
It's frustrating bit I'm still with him. The goals we keep conceding needs sorting and Rowett has spoken about this. So stop picking shawcross and porters and change the team. When's his decision to pick players who are not good enough he cannot moan when they are making woeful mistakes and as he's keen to point out this has been happening since last year He said on Tuesday it was the first time he was able to pick his own team and again he picked the same team yesterday he said about four games back he had to stop picking players on reputation yet the back line remains the same. He's out of his depth and tactically inept we may pick up a win against a poor Rotherham side or similar but his tactics will have us reverting to type when playing a better team managed by a better manager. The big question is how long are the board going to wait until they accept this and they made a mistake |
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