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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 27, 2018 19:50:58 GMT
Quick instant success, why can’t we just buy Man City and we’ll all be happy. Win win win, success I need instant success
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Post by loosestools on Sept 28, 2018 7:09:39 GMT
Looks like Steve Bruce is going to be free soon. Any takers?
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 28, 2018 7:20:08 GMT
Looks like Steve Bruce is going to be free soon. Any takers? And why is he going to be free soon ? does that not say it all
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Post by Danstoke82 on Sept 28, 2018 7:24:17 GMT
Although Rowett hasn't overly covered himself in glory with results he isn't to blame here. He's just a minor issue.
This problem goes a lot higher. Dare I say at the very top where it seems possible that clueless Pete is being made a mug of by Scholes and Cartwright.
Ill keep belief in Rowett for now but if the problem is indeed from higher up then what chance does he have??.
John Coates needs to step up and take over from his father, hopefully then things might change for the better.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 28, 2018 7:34:45 GMT
Be interesting to see what Huddersfield do with Wagner whether they would rather stick with him and potentially go down or sack him and go for allardyce to keep them up I can't see him turning them around and keeping them up in all honesty I'd take Wagner at Stoke his high pressing philosophy (similar to klopps) would be a breath of fresh air! The problem is the defence - which is now getting more obvious because Rowett is setting us up to be more attacking. I think Wagner is an excellent manager - but if we play a high press with this defence a 3-0 deficit will start to look like a reasonable challenge. We need do what we can with what we've got until Xmas and make some serious investment in the defence in the January window. Changing the manager isn't going make a blind bit of difference. Managerial shortlisting policy: Slaughter Chicken <Insert Random Name Here> Get excited Get disappointed Slaughter Chicken And repeat...
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Post by geoff321 on Sept 28, 2018 7:35:50 GMT
Although Rowett hasn't overly covered himself in glory with results he isn't to blame here. He's just a minor issue. This problem goes a lot higher. Dare I say at the very top where it seems possible that clueless Pete is being made a mug of by Scholes and Cartwright. Ill keep belief in Rowett for now but if the problem is indeed from higher up then what chance does he have??. John Coates needs to step up and take over from his father, hopefully then things might change for the better. If Peter Coates, Scholes and Cartwright are responsible for the decline in results on the pitch, why don't Stoke City managers ever resign to safeguard their own reputation?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 28, 2018 8:05:44 GMT
Quick instant success, why can’t we just buy Man City and we’ll all be happy. Win win win, success I need instant success Don’t think the majority are expecting instant success, a modicum of improvement would be a good start, not losing and conceding 3 goals to erstwhile L1 luminaries would be nice, a definable format and structure would be great and a manager that doesn’t repeatedly contradict himself a bonus. I wasn’t expecting instant success nor indeed was I expecting the chaos I’ve seen over the last few weeks.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 28, 2018 8:18:58 GMT
Despite today I'm not convinced it's time for a change yet but it would surely be a dereliction of duty by the board not to realise a decision might need taking soon if it really doesn't work out with Gary. Let's just suppose, after their disastrous failure not just to replace Sparky in time but to have a credible replacement lined up, they've actually learned their lesson and there's a rolling shortlist - who's on it? I'm not the biggest McCarthy fan but you know what you're getting. Don't see Big Sam or a manager of his quality coming near while we're a visibly toxic club. Moyes would be high on my list, thought he did ok at Wet Sham. Sal I thought you were better than this.we have a manager and we should be 100% behind him.imo it was these types of posts that did for mark Hughes negativity spread throughout the club and it transported to the stands resulting in the players almost scared to get the ball incase they made a mistake.thank the lord Tony waddington and Lou MacArthur didn’t have to deal with social(or anti social) media
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2018 8:21:19 GMT
Given time rowett will do a decent job.
Whether that decent job is good enough to achieve what we want to achieve remains to be seen. I've actually enjoyed 3 of the last 4 games and I've not said that for a long time
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 8:36:19 GMT
Hughes, lambert, now Rowett is struggling with the squad we have..
Should we really keep sacking the manager or is it time to sack/ clear out the old team as quick as poss?
Or maybe, and this is the direction im going, it's higher up and the choice of managers hired that the team are not performing for as they are such none entities, and as bland as fuck?
How the frig do you motivate players to go straight back up with peter/John's idea of manager?
On saying all that, I think we should stick with rowett this season as long as we look like surviving that is.
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Post by citynickscfc on Sept 28, 2018 9:09:11 GMT
Although Rowett hasn't overly covered himself in glory with results he isn't to blame here. He's just a minor issue. This problem goes a lot higher. Dare I say at the very top where it seems possible that clueless Pete is being made a mug of by Scholes and Cartwright. Ill keep belief in Rowett for now but if the problem is indeed from higher up then what chance does he have??. John Coates needs to step up and take over from his father, hopefully then things might change for the better. If Peter Coates, Scholes and Cartwright are responsible for the decline in results on the pitch, why don't Stoke City managers ever resign to safeguard their own reputation? Watch this space 😂
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 28, 2018 12:39:49 GMT
A club that sacks three managers in a year has a problem. And it isn't the manager. Our problems stem from not sacking a manager True... but sacking him and the next one didn't solve the problem either. What makes you think sacking a third will do the trick? You need a decent manager and a decent set of players. We could get a better manager in but the fact remains the defence has been crap under three successive managers and getting another in isn't going to solve that particular problem. No point amputating your arm to cue a headache.
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Post by Onneravineet on Sept 28, 2018 12:40:40 GMT
QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 28, 2018 12:46:54 GMT
Given time rowett will do a decent job. Whether that decent job is good enough to achieve what we want to achieve remains to be seen. I've actually enjoyed 3 of the last 4 games and I've not said that for a long time [br Which game didn't you enjoy?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 28, 2018 13:08:02 GMT
Given time rowett will do a decent job. Whether that decent job is good enough to achieve what we want to achieve remains to be seen. I've actually enjoyed 3 of the last 4 games and I've not said that for a long time [br Which game didn't you enjoy? Blackburn
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Post by robstokie on Sept 28, 2018 13:49:43 GMT
I'm still in the pro-rowett camp - he needs time to sort out the mentality and clear the dead wood from our squad, plus you can't hold the manager accountable for basic individual errors from so called old pros. Our demise has come about over 2 years, and it isn't going to be sorted overnight. If we were to get rid....
It would almost certainly be Mick McCarthy
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 28, 2018 13:50:19 GMT
I think we are a decent attacking side, creating lots. We all know where the issues are!!
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 28, 2018 14:09:21 GMT
Our problems stem from not sacking a manager True... but sacking him and the next one didn't solve the problem either. What makes you think sacking a third will do the trick? You need a decent manager and a decent set of players. We could get a better manager in but the fact remains the defence has been crap under three successive managers and getting another in isn't going to solve that particular problem. No point amputating your arm to cue a headache. I'm not advocating we sack him yet , he's still on honeymoon as far as I'm concerned ,but he has to use the resources he has until January to sort out our back 4
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Post by loosestools on Sept 28, 2018 18:45:50 GMT
Looks like Steve Bruce is going to be free soon. Any takers? And why is he going to be free soon ? does that not say it all Almost fell on his own sword on the telly this morning.
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Post by shakermaker on Sept 28, 2018 18:58:56 GMT
And why is he going to be free soon ? does that not say it all Almost fell on his own sword on the telly this morning. What did Pugnose say?
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Post by cheadlestokie on Sept 28, 2018 19:40:48 GMT
Clearly if he could Rowett would now go and bring in a new central defender. Problem is the transfer window. Whoever is in charge will need more than one window to solve the problems that built up in this squad over the last two years He wanted to bring in Chesters but was stopped by Scholes etc trying to be clever.
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Post by mrteddysalad on Sept 28, 2018 21:12:44 GMT
I’m willing to stick with him if he would just play our skilled players in the midfield and wings. When Saido is alongside Afobe and we have some combination of Etebo, Woods, Ince, Bojan out there we look good and score goals. It’s when Afobe is out on an island by himself we’re shite, which is usually the first 70’ of the match...
There’s nothing he can do about the backline right now. We have zero good options and that’s on Scholes.
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Post by lordb on Sept 28, 2018 21:16:01 GMT
Given time rowett will do a decent job. Whether that decent job is good enough to achieve what we want to achieve remains to be seen. I've actually enjoyed 3 of the last 4 games and I've not said that for a long time Weird isn't it. Can understand the criticism the results are shocking however at times in matches we look more of a threat than any other side in the division. The defending is astonishing. Shawcross rightly dropped but then you see Bruno and he's turning out Justin Whittle levels of incompetence. Williams can pass but is no more than twenty minutes away from a fuck up. Pieters is playing way below acceptable standards.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2018 21:16:31 GMT
Quick instant success, why can’t we just buy Man City and we’ll all be happy. Win win win, success I need instant success Or three long years of complete and utter shit? Let's have more of this! 😬 Yeah! Another 30 years in the wilderness 🥂☀️😎😀👍
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Post by pottermouth on Sept 28, 2018 23:41:39 GMT
Despite today I'm not convinced it's time for a change yet but it would surely be a dereliction of duty by the board not to realise a decision might need taking soon if it really doesn't work out with Gary. Let's just suppose, after their disastrous failure not just to replace Sparky in time but to have a credible replacement lined up, they've actually learned their lesson and there's a rolling shortlist - who's on it? I'm not the biggest McCarthy fan but you know what you're getting. Don't see Big Sam or a manager of his quality coming near while we're a visibly toxic club. Moyes would be high on my list, thought he did ok at Wet Sham. A bit soon to be contemplating this! I thought you had ‘moderate’ views!!!
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 29, 2018 0:32:39 GMT
QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF Sale ends Sunday.
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Post by knowingeye on Sept 29, 2018 6:32:51 GMT
Rui Faria as another entirely ridiculous name in the hat 😆
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Post by berahinosgoals on Sept 29, 2018 7:39:35 GMT
QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF QSF Sale ends Sunday. lol with another one starting 12:01 a.m Monday. Dfs the place where the time is always running out on the sale that never ends
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Post by hotterpotter on Sept 29, 2018 7:51:49 GMT
There is only one man alive guaranteed to sort out this mess. It would cost a lot of money to prise him from M’boro. Since when did Superman smoke??
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Post by thevoid on Sept 29, 2018 8:29:53 GMT
Espanyol planned to replace QSF with Javi Gracia. Thank God we went back down the British route- you can't be appointing foreign herberts who don't know the league.
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