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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Sept 23, 2018 22:00:07 GMT
A club that sacks three managers in a year has a problem. And it isn't the manager.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 22:05:24 GMT
A club that sacks three managers in a year has a problem. And it isn't the manager. It may well be the manager if they are all poor managers. However the question is who is recruiting these poor managers.
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Post by onionman on Sept 23, 2018 22:12:06 GMT
If Rowett is Poundland Pulis then Warnock is Aldi Allardyce. Bring it on.
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Post by Sfance on Sept 23, 2018 22:17:50 GMT
I think what maybe happening is Gary has let himself get sucked into a power struggle with S&C. Until he can win that one, the players are not likely to give him much more than the time of day. The players know as well as we do that managers are two a penny at Stoke as long as S&C call the shots.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 24, 2018 1:06:24 GMT
I think what maybe happening is Gary has let himself get sucked into a power struggle with S&C. Until he can win that one, the players are not likely to give him much more than the time of day. The players know as well as we do that managers are two a penny at Stoke as long as S&C call the shots. Rowett didn’t let himself get sucked into a power struggle,he was forced into it with the ALLEGED incident of Scholes questioning why he wasn’t playing Bauer. ALLEGEDLY Rowett was for walking and Coates Snr had to calm the situation down and asked Rowett to stay . My main question is who sanctioned the renewal of contracts for Shawcross, Allen, Bauer and possibly Butland ? I will now probably get a response from the usual suspects saying new managers always inherit players from the previous regime ! Rowett didn’t have a choice with these players though, because they were rewarded for their combined incompetence of the relegation season with brand new contracts before the manager had even taken office ? You might ask why did Rowett say he was overjoyed to have stalwarts signing up and how they would help too attract good players to the club, well what else could he say ? ALLEGEDLY Scholes doesn’t like the prospect of Jon Coates taking more of a working interest in the club and sees this as a threat to the status quo . So as Rowett is Jon’s choice what better way of undermining the pair of them by causing as much chaos as is humanly possible.
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 24, 2018 4:44:07 GMT
Allardyce would want to grow and build this football club back to what it once was in being a established Premier League club if he was to come similar to what he achieved at West Ham when they were in the championship he's the type of manager to come in and identify the weaknesses overnight and with the structural issues at the club he would identify them and he wouldn't be afraid to say something either he's no yes man that's for sure! Steve Walsh would be an ideal man to take Cartwright's job and he'd do it properly and before anyone tries to claim he wouldn't come people said that about Leeds with bielsa so I wouldn't rule it out! The problems at the club are so difficult to fix i wonder if it w would take a new ownership. One of the problems is we still have too many fascination certain manager (mainly british) have a fascination with playing I think it could well take new ownership to sort this mess of a club out in all honesty it has the feel of a Sunderland all over it something just doesn't seem right at all behind the scenes.
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 24, 2018 4:44:38 GMT
I think what maybe happening is Gary has let himself get sucked into a power struggle with S&C. Until he can win that one, the players are not likely to give him much more than the time of day. The players know as well as we do that managers are two a penny at Stoke as long as S&C call the shots. Rowett didn’t let himself get sucked into a power struggle,he was forced into it with the ALLEGED incident of Scholes questioning why he wasn’t playing Bauer. ALLEGEDLY Rowett was for walking and Coates Snr had to calm the situation down and asked Rowett to stay . My main question is who sanctioned the renewal of contracts for Shawcross, Allen, Bauer and possibly Butland ? I will now probably get a response from the usual suspects saying new managers always inherit players from the previous regime ! Rowett didn’t have a choice with these players though, because they were rewarded for their combined incompetence of the relegation season with brand new contracts before the manager had even taken office ? You might ask why did Rowett say he was overjoyed to have stalwarts signing up and how they would help too attract good players to the club, well what else could he say ? ALLEGEDLY Scholes doesn’t like the prospect of Jon Coates taking more of a working interest in the club and sees this as a threat to the status quo . So as Rowett is Jon’s choice what better way of undermining the pair of them by causing as much chaos as is humanly possible. So your saying In a roundabout way it’s Scholes calling the shots, never in a million years
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Post by FrankButcher on Sept 24, 2018 4:50:12 GMT
Be interesting to see what Huddersfield do with Wagner whether they would rather stick with him and potentially go down or sack him and go for allardyce to keep them up I can't see him turning them around and keeping them up in all honesty I'd take Wagner at Stoke his high pressing philosophy (similar to klopps) would be a breath of fresh air!
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 24, 2018 5:00:52 GMT
A club that sacks three managers in a year has a problem. And it isn't the manager. Our problems stem from not sacking a manager
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Post by raythesailor on Sept 24, 2018 6:00:18 GMT
I think what maybe happening is Gary has let himself get sucked into a power struggle with S&C. Until he can win that one, the players are not likely to give him much more than the time of day. The players know as well as we do that managers are two a penny at Stoke as long as S&C call the shots. Rowett didn’t let himself get sucked into a power struggle,he was forced into it with the ALLEGED incident of Scholes questioning why he wasn’t playing Bauer. ALLEGEDLY Rowett was for walking and Coates Snr had to calm the situation down and asked Rowett to stay . My main question is who sanctioned the renewal of contracts for Shawcross, Allen, Bauer and possibly Butland ? I will now probably get a response from the usual suspects saying new managers always inherit players from the previous regime ! Rowett didn’t have a choice with these players though, because they were rewarded for their combined incompetence of the relegation season with brand new contracts before the manager had even taken office ? You might ask why did Rowett say he was overjoyed to have stalwarts signing up and how they would help too attract good players to the club, well what else could he say ? ALLEGEDLY Scholes doesn’t like the prospect of Jon Coates taking more of a working interest in the club and sees this as a threat to the status quo . So as Rowett is Jon’s choice what better way of undermining the pair of them by causing as much chaos as is humanly possible. If this is true it is indeed a very sad state of affairs, and one would imagine that the training ground atmosphere must be very poor or even toxic. At the moment my pre season optimism has now totally disappeared and I feel that we are again heading for mediocrity at best for years to come.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 24, 2018 6:44:58 GMT
Rowett didn’t let himself get sucked into a power struggle,he was forced into it with the ALLEGED incident of Scholes questioning why he wasn’t playing Bauer. ALLEGEDLY Rowett was for walking and Coates Snr had to calm the situation down and asked Rowett to stay . My main question is who sanctioned the renewal of contracts for Shawcross, Allen, Bauer and possibly Butland ? I will now probably get a response from the usual suspects saying new managers always inherit players from the previous regime ! Rowett didn’t have a choice with these players though, because they were rewarded for their combined incompetence of the relegation season with brand new contracts before the manager had even taken office ? You might ask why did Rowett say he was overjoyed to have stalwarts signing up and how they would help too attract good players to the club, well what else could he say ? ALLEGEDLY Scholes doesn’t like the prospect of Jon Coates taking more of a working interest in the club and sees this as a threat to the status quo . So as Rowett is Jon’s choice what better way of undermining the pair of them by causing as much chaos as is humanly possible. If this is true it is indeed a very sad state of affairs, and one would imagine that the training ground atmosphere must be very poor or even toxic. At the moment my pre season optimism has now totally disappeared and I feel that we are again heading for mediocrity at best for years to come. So you reward four players with new contracts for their combined culpability in their contributions to getting the club relegated and the rest of the players who are equally culpable have to accept pay cuts as stipulated in their existing contracts ! Now that’s how to build team spirit ?
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 24, 2018 6:51:05 GMT
Rowett didn’t let himself get sucked into a power struggle,he was forced into it with the ALLEGED incident of Scholes questioning why he wasn’t playing Bauer. ALLEGEDLY Rowett was for walking and Coates Snr had to calm the situation down and asked Rowett to stay . My main question is who sanctioned the renewal of contracts for Shawcross, Allen, Bauer and possibly Butland ? I will now probably get a response from the usual suspects saying new managers always inherit players from the previous regime ! Rowett didn’t have a choice with these players though, because they were rewarded for their combined incompetence of the relegation season with brand new contracts before the manager had even taken office ? You might ask why did Rowett say he was overjoyed to have stalwarts signing up and how they would help too attract good players to the club, well what else could he say ? ALLEGEDLY Scholes doesn’t like the prospect of Jon Coates taking more of a working interest in the club and sees this as a threat to the status quo . So as Rowett is Jon’s choice what better way of undermining the pair of them by causing as much chaos as is humanly possible. So your saying In a roundabout way it’s Scholes calling the shots, never in a million years Who else is ? Because that’s what it says on his door, Chief Executive !
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2018 7:44:34 GMT
Be interesting to see what Huddersfield do with Wagner whether they would rather stick with him and potentially go down or sack him and go for allardyce to keep them up I can't see him turning them around and keeping them up in all honesty I'd take Wagner at Stoke his high pressing philosophy (similar to klopps) would be a breath of fresh air! You think Wagner would be a good choice I presume you intend to let him have a good half dozen more suited players at the same time Half our current team would struggle to press a flower There’s pressing and pressing I’m presuming you watch the first Leicester goal Saturday The one with two Leicester front men two yards clear in there own half
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 24, 2018 9:41:59 GMT
“Immature & inflammatory”, whatever you think of the post they are peculiar adjectives to describe it Seriously, there must be conversations like this going on between board members surely after today? In any other kind of a multi-million pound business, or a military campaign, any organisation really there surely would be if it appeared to be losing direction so badly, just in case that didn't improve under the current regime?? The club is rotten to the core,that is the problem as i see it.The mistakes made at board level seem endless.Would you just change a light bulb if your domestic electricity bill was through the roof?
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Post by heworksardtho on Sept 24, 2018 17:46:32 GMT
So your saying In a roundabout way it’s Scholes calling the shots, never in a million years Who else is ? Because that’s what it says on his door, Chief Executive ! He answers to big peter
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 24, 2018 18:03:24 GMT
Who else is ? Because that’s what it says on his door, Chief Executive ! He answers to big peter When he needs a cheque signing !
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Post by jarvinski on Sept 27, 2018 8:14:52 GMT
Look at Rangers and Derby with 2 great ball playing footballers as managers, what about Paul Scholes replacing Rowett
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Post by rawli on Sept 27, 2018 8:18:06 GMT
There'd be confusion if crowd started shouting Scholes Out.
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Post by Northy on Sept 27, 2018 8:20:41 GMT
Does he want to be a manager?
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Post by knowingeye on Sept 27, 2018 8:30:55 GMT
Not the time or place for inexperience.
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 27, 2018 9:12:26 GMT
Anchors away!
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Post by miggoscfc on Sept 27, 2018 9:21:49 GMT
Personality of a goldfish.
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Post by ursemboys on Sept 27, 2018 9:26:50 GMT
lost for words .Paul Scholes ? and people say the jobs to big for Rowett
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Post by bertiestan on Sept 27, 2018 9:28:02 GMT
God I fucking love this board 😂
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Sept 27, 2018 9:28:38 GMT
Why don’t we do away with grass on the pitch as well and just play on a big pile of jelly.
Fuck the stadium off as well actually, let’s play on JTF’s carpark.
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Post by cbwhu on Sept 27, 2018 10:54:52 GMT
Look at Rangers and Derby with 2 great ball playing footballers as managers, what about Paul Scholes replacing Rowett Maybe give it to Gascoigne, John Barnes or Maradona if that's the criteria! I'm sure if Scholes wanted to be involved in coaching/managing, he already would be
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Sept 27, 2018 19:31:02 GMT
Wonder if Mike Bassett is busy lads We've been shit granted but what is getting rid of Rowett going to change with the players we have and what sensible replacements have we really got to pick from?
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Post by rawli on Sept 27, 2018 19:37:07 GMT
Not the time or place for inexperience. No. We'd be fucked with someone like Lampard at the helm.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 27, 2018 19:45:18 GMT
A club that sacks three managers in a year has a problem. And it isn't the manager. Our problems stem from not sacking a manager How very true is that statement & the same thing could be happening all over again as i cannot see Coates sacking Rowett till its to late.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 27, 2018 19:49:15 GMT
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