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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 8:05:26 GMT
Who is around?
Moyes
Allardyce
Bilic
Lambert
Who else is out of work that could turn this around for us?
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 23, 2018 8:39:16 GMT
I think you could rule Lambert out but any of the other 3 would do better than Rowett. But would they come as we are now a club that is more likely to be in a relegation fight than a push for promotion & they would all demand big money.
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 23, 2018 8:40:51 GMT
I’d be surprised if any of them came, besides they’ll stick with Rowett until Jan at the very least
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 23, 2018 8:45:39 GMT
I think you could rule Lambert out but any of the other 3 would do better than Rowett. But would they come as we are now a club that is more likely to be in a relegation fight than a push for promotion & they would all demand big money. But barring a couple of decent centre backs we have a good side and could be pushing for promotion. Any manager worth his salt would back himself under those circumstances (as Rowett did). Plus we do actually have big money. The problem we'd have attracting a 'big' name is that they would be unlikely to want to be associated with the car crash that is SCFC at the moment rather than our position in the league. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 23, 2018 8:46:16 GMT
He’s not going anywhere and neither should he until at least the Jan window.
Things were looking up till yesterday if we win next week I’m sure the pressure will be off again. Next Sat is massive. Lose to Rotherham with another negative performance and the pressure will be really on. We’re a very fragile club at the mo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 8:48:24 GMT
This club needs stability right now. Swapping managers will create even more problems as rowett is assembling his own team. To ask someone else to manage it is total madness. Some fans need to be realistic
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 23, 2018 8:53:22 GMT
Apart from Lambert,the other are waiting for sackings to start in the Premier league.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Sept 23, 2018 8:57:45 GMT
I’d be surprised if any of them came, besides they’ll stick with Rowett until Jan at the very least The way things are looking that would be to late again. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 23, 2018 9:11:42 GMT
Apart from Lambert,the other are waiting for sackings to start in the Premier league. Moyes turned us down in the summer. We are not going to attract a Premier League manager,all those (Lambert aside) will see themselves as that. If we are changing manager we have to look at managers we can get not managers we can't. Personally I think it's a bad idea at this time, would wait till the summer. However sounding out possible candidates isn't a bad idea. Dean Smith maybe? |
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Sept 23, 2018 9:39:36 GMT
Rowett has flaws but changing the manager won't solve much. There are serious structural issues at the club. A Pulis or a Allardyce wouldn't make everything rosy, even if they got better results. Allardyce would want to grow and build this football club back to what it once was in being a established Premier League club if he was to come similar to what he achieved at West Ham when they were in the championship he's the type of manager to come in and identify the weaknesses overnight and with the structural issues at the club he would identify them and he wouldn't be afraid to say something either he's no yes man that's for sure! Steve Walsh would be an ideal man to take Cartwright's job and he'd do it properly and before anyone tries to claim he wouldn't come people said that about Leeds with bielsa so I wouldn't rule it out! The problems at the club are so difficult to fix i wonder if it w would take a new ownership. One of the problems is we still have too many fascination certain manager (mainly british) have a fascination with playing |
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Post by fca47 on Sept 23, 2018 10:07:11 GMT
Unfortunately we fell into the trap of going for someone who we thought knew the Championship, I.e. Was good enough to do the job, instead we should have aimed higher and gone for someone too good for the Championship , like Leeds and Wolves did.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 23, 2018 10:47:34 GMT
A lot of nonsense on here..give Rowett until Christmas, its not his fault etc...
Of course it is his fault. People on here telking about structural issues at the club. Fuck off. Rowett is the best backed manager in the league. Yes there seems to be issues in the process of identifying transfer targets, but apart from chester he got the players he wanted.
The organisation on the pitch has got worse. The defending has got worse. We are struggling more than we did in the premier league.
A decent manager would have us in the top six, there is more then enough quality in the squad.
Rowett has to go now, we need a good manager and coaching staff, get back to basics. The players are not playing for this manager
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Sept 23, 2018 10:53:50 GMT
A lot of nonsense on here..give Rowett until Christmas, its not his fault etc... Of course it is his fault. People on here telking about structural issues at the club. Fuck off. Rowett is the best backed manager in the league. Yes there seems to be issues in the process of identifying transfer targets, but apart from chester he got the players he wanted. The organisation on the pitch has got worse. The defending has got worse. We are struggling more than we did in the premier league. A decent manager would have us in the top six, there is more then enough quality in the squad. Rowett has to go now, we need a good manager and coaching staff, get back to basics. The players are not playing for this manager Let’s say all of the above is true - do you honestly trust the board to get a ‘good manager’? |
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 23, 2018 10:56:38 GMT
A lot of nonsense on here..give Rowett until Christmas, its not his fault etc... Of course it is his fault. People on here telking about structural issues at the club. Fuck off. Rowett is the best backed manager in the league. Yes there seems to be issues in the process of identifying transfer targets, but apart from chester he got the players he wanted. The organisation on the pitch has got worse. The defending has got worse. We are struggling more than we did in the premier league. A decent manager would have us in the top six, there is more then enough quality in the squad. Rowett has to go now, we need a good manager and coaching staff, get back to basics. The players are not playing for this manager Let’s say all of the above is true - do you honestly trust the board to get a ‘good manager’? No They should have looked further than the British isles. Potter and Bielsa were names a lot of us posted on here last season. With bielsa some of us on here were suggesting him two years ago. We could have got bielsa last season and he should have kept us up. Lambert and then Rowett. Fucking hell |
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Sept 23, 2018 10:59:51 GMT
Let’s say all of the above is true - do you honestly trust the board to get a ‘good manager’? No They should have looked further than the British isles. Potter and Bielsa were names a lot of us posted on here last season. With bielsa some of us on here were suggesting him two years ago. We could have got bielsa last season and he should have kept us up. Lambert and then Rowett. Fucking hell It’s devastating isn’t it - I’m so fucking annoyed and have lost all faith and confidence in the people running the club |
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Post by enuntio on Sept 23, 2018 11:06:30 GMT
If Rowett gets the sack then let a new manager have the whole of December to wonder what he's let himself in for
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Post by thevoid on Sept 23, 2018 11:28:30 GMT
Let’s say all of the above is true - do you honestly trust the board to get a ‘good manager’? No They should have looked further than the British isles. Potter and Bielsa were names a lot of us posted on here last season. With bielsa some of us on here were suggesting him two years ago. We could have got bielsa last season and he should have kept us up. Lambert and then Rowett. Fucking hell Coates is a Little Englander, that's the problem. In this age of internet, social media and the availability of clips and stats on just about anything, the need to 'know the league' by personal experience is a myth peddled by old men like Coates who don't like change. If it wasn't for Denise, bet365 would probably still be in a Portakabin settling bets on Excel sheets. |
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Post by shipshape on Sept 23, 2018 11:31:39 GMT
Coates shortlist would be:
1. McCarthy
2. McCarthy
3. McCarthy
4. Warnock
5. McCarthy
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Post by silsdenstokie on Sept 23, 2018 11:35:15 GMT
Dean Smith would be a great shout. However given what has happened with Rowett I don't think Coates will pay for another 'in work' manager so Mccathy probs more likely
I note Steve Bruce is coming under increasing pressure at Villa....if he was to go I would imagine he would be right up Coates's street
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Post by lordb on Sept 23, 2018 11:48:55 GMT
He got the Swansea job, it was in the papers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 11:51:12 GMT
The names mentioned in this thread are soul destroying.
All shit old British managers. Stoke fans seen to have less ambition than the owners.
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Post by mrred on Sept 23, 2018 11:58:51 GMT
Pining for Mick fucking McCarthy. Jesus Christ. We really do deserve everything we get as Stoke fans.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 23, 2018 12:00:29 GMT
So we get the dream manager that the majority of the fans want and let’s not forget the most important factor what the players want, do you honestly think they are going to press a switch and everything is going to be peachy ? We have got our way in the past if you remember and we were rewarded with a historical three ninth places and ultimately relegation.
Two people who will be sitting back in their leather swivel chairs on Monday and laughing their cocks off are the ones truly responsible for this mess and they are loving every single minute as the fans are at war with each other while the heat is heaped on Rowett. Just think who feeds the regurgitated shit to the Sentinel and it’s desk bound hacks that are supplying this feeding frenzy ?
Until we get rid of every element of the past we can never move forward, certain players are on a power trip and getting away with it because its becoming a him or us scenario and are running to the hierarchy bleating all the changing room gossip.
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Post by shipshape on Sept 23, 2018 12:02:19 GMT
The names mentioned in this thread are soul destroying. All shit old British managers. Stoke fans seen to have less ambition than the owners. I think you might be missing the point. My list was not who I want. It's who I think Coates would go for. Totally different things. |
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Post by shipshape on Sept 23, 2018 12:03:40 GMT
Pining for Mick fucking McCarthy. Jesus Christ. We really do deserve everything we get as Stoke fans. I think the only person who'd be pining for McCarthy would be Peter Coates. Unfortunately he's the only one that matters. |
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Post by mrred on Sept 23, 2018 12:10:58 GMT
Pining for Mick fucking McCarthy. Jesus Christ. We really do deserve everything we get as Stoke fans. I think the only person who'd be pining for McCarthy would be Peter Coates. Unfortunately he's the only one that matters. And the opening post. She's not alone either, not the first time he's been mentioned in the last 24 hours or fee months. |
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Post by peekay67 on Sept 23, 2018 12:31:42 GMT
Dean Smith of Brentford. If he can afford to lose Ryan Woods he can't be bad. Good football and winning games. Can't be worse imho.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 23, 2018 12:33:02 GMT
The names mentioned in this thread are soul destroying. All shit old British managers. Stoke fans seen to have less ambition than the owners. To be fair, what’s the point in suggesting an exciting, progressive overseas appointment when there’s less than zero chance of one being appointed? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2018 12:35:53 GMT
The names mentioned in this thread are soul destroying. All shit old British managers. Stoke fans seen to have less ambition than the owners. To be fair, what’s the point in suggesting an exciting, progressive overseas appointment when there’s less than zero chance of one being appointed? Yeah in all honesty that I can't argue with. |
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 23, 2018 12:38:25 GMT
To be fair if a manager can't slag off his own underperforming players, who can? If Rowett is right about Bauer training for 20 minutes then he's right to chuck it out there Once you are doing that in public you are done. Whatever you think about Rowett, he is finished at stoke. How many times do you see other managers lose it like that in public with their own players? And how many survive in their job? They never do, the players will fucking hate him. Something is badly wrong as they look more disorganised than under Hughes, playing against far inferior opposition, and they look worse prepared than ever Mourinho will happily pick a row with his own players Before that alex Ferguson loved picking a row with his own players , and the bigger the name the better , David Beckham ? Jaap stam ?? |
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