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Post by raythesailor on Aug 23, 2018 10:59:06 GMT
Last night V Wigan will go down in our history as a major “Watershed”.
The team and management started to loose the crowd support. The team started to loose each other swinging their handbags at each other in the tunnel and changing room. Those supporters who had so much opptomism at the start of the season were suddenly joulted iinto the reality of our dire situation. The outside world started to understand what has been said on here for some time,that Stoke City are in free fall.
So this is the watershed and we will continue to spiral down the drain into oblivion , or some major and drastic decisions need to me made. What those decisions are I don’t know. But I don’t earn millions of pounds to make them.
So from the top floor executive offices to the training ground people need to bite the bullet and metaphorical blood needs to flow.
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 23, 2018 11:08:07 GMT
Can not disagree with a word of that article. OK saying we need to get some in, but after the farcical results and happenings who would want to come to this Toxic shower of S%#T. My half full glass has gone to nearly empty in a pub with no beer. My glass is still half full, it's just that it's full of piss.
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Post by mozzer on Aug 23, 2018 11:14:02 GMT
Last night V Wigan will go down in our history as a major “Watershed”. The team and management started to loose the crowd support. The team started to loose each other swinging their handbags at each other in the tunnel and changing room. Those supporters who had so much opptomism at the start of the season were suddenly joulted iinto the reality of our dire situation. The outside world started to understand what has been said on here for some time,that Stoke City are in free fall. So this is the watershed and we will continue to spiral down the drain into oblivion , or some major and drastic decisions need to me made. What those decisions are I don’t know. But I don’t earn millions of pounds to make them. So from the top floor executive offices to the training ground people need to bite the bullet and metaphorical blood needs to flow. Bang on, hopefully all the happy clapping knobs that shouted knicker wetter to any one showing concern as long a go as two years ago are now suffering the same pain, once the reality has sunk through their thick skulls that we are in dire straights as everyone else who knew the game realised, they will be a little more accepting when due critisism is required for what was happening within the club.
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Post by Davef on Aug 23, 2018 11:17:03 GMT
It went wrong somewhere between the day Pulis left and the time Hughes/the transfer team filled the squad with players with no balls. First couple of seasons Hughes had strong players like Bego, Ryan, n’zonzi, Whelan, Walters etc. TP had a philosophy of football that a lot of fans didn’t like. It’s the most enjoyable spell of supporting the team for me personally. And his Boro side have started magnificently but that’s another debate. Anyway, from there Hughes and the transfer team brought in some top quality to go with the solid pros we had. We added the likes of Bojan, Arnie, Shaq, who though inconsistent had some glorious performances and we had a mini golden era where it seemed we had cracked it. Then Hughes let go the likes of Whelan, Walters, Huth (who went on to win a title which shows what he had left to offer) and through no fault of his own we had to sell Bego and n’zonzi - losing all fighting spirit in the team. Then players like Arnie were sold for relatively big money and replaced with choupo fucking moting on a free. And prior to that N’zonzi was replaced by Imbula who hasn’t even learnt to speak English. Oh for heaven's sake! Were you watching the Stoke players during Pulis's last season and a half? The body language at times was a disgrace and there were all sorts going on behind the scenes. You don't remember the pig's head incident or a player putting a team mate's car window through? There were experienced players in that dressing room who were well pissed off when Pulis didn't take them to Valencia. I don't dispute that at the height of his powers we had some great characters in TP's dressing room, but let's not re-write history eh?
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 23, 2018 11:18:05 GMT
Last night V Wigan will go down in our history as a major “Watershed”. The team and management started to loose the crowd support. The team started to loose each other swinging their handbags at each other in the tunnel and changing room. Those supporters who had so much opptomism at the start of the season were suddenly joulted iinto the reality of our dire situation. The outside world started to understand what has been said on here for some time,that Stoke City are in free fall. So this is the watershed and we will continue to spiral down the drain into oblivion , or some major and drastic decisions need to me made. What those decisions are I don’t know. But I don’t earn millions of pounds to make them. So from the top floor executive offices to the training ground people need to bite the bullet and metaphorical blood needs to flow. Bang on, hopefully all the happy clapping knobs that shouted knicker wetter to any one showing concern as long a go as two years ago are now suffering the same pain, once the reality has sunk through their thick skulls that we are in dire straights as everyone else who knew the game realised, they will be a little more accepting when due critisism is required for what was happening within the club. In all honesty I was possibly “One of The Knobs” for a while but I started to realise the reality last season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:22:42 GMT
Classic lines from the last 18 months . . . "Who else would do the job" "What's all the fuss about?" "The process is working just fine" Any truth to the rumor that Coates' middle name is Nero? He doesn't have a middle name
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 23, 2018 11:23:34 GMT
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 23, 2018 11:27:17 GMT
Why don’t your and radio Stokes reporters ask them some difficult but truthful questions thereseves ?
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Post by brumstokie on Aug 23, 2018 11:28:21 GMT
What's the point? They won't answer them or listen to the views of the fans.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Aug 23, 2018 11:28:39 GMT
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Post by foster on Aug 23, 2018 11:30:58 GMT
Last night V Wigan will go down in our history as a major “Watershed”. The team and management started to loose the crowd support. The team started to loose each other swinging their handbags at each other in the tunnel and changing room. Those supporters who had so much opptomism at the start of the season were suddenly joulted iinto the reality of our dire situation. The outside world started to understand what has been said on here for some time,that Stoke City are in free fall. So this is the watershed and we will continue to spiral down the drain into oblivion , or some major and drastic decisions need to me made. What those decisions are I don’t know. But I don’t earn millions of pounds to make them. So from the top floor executive offices to the training ground people need to bite the bullet and metaphorical blood needs to flow. I have zero confidence in Coates doing anything to turn this around. For someone with such a big dong he's got the smallest balls in the world. Boys club getting paid a fortune for sticking their heads in the sand and up each others arses. I've never been one for turning against anyone at the club but I'm totally fed up with this shit. Thank fuck I haven't yet paid anything for the streaming service or I'd be asking for my money back. They're all useless, every last fucking one of them.
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Post by Davef on Aug 23, 2018 11:34:49 GMT
The fact that ECM and Imbula have been banished to the under 23’s would suggest it was possibly one of those two who refused to complete training.... I'd like to know what Gary Rowett (or whoever is responsible for banishing them) thinks the Under 23's are going to gain from having those wasters training with them?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:37:47 GMT
Why specifically have Ndiaye, Choupo-Moting and Cameron been frozen out of the first team squad? Whilst I understand the need to move players on, they are employed by us and should be in contention in the current climate.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:37:51 GMT
Can the chap on the left step aside (take the bloke on the right with you) and leave your dad to run the club
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:38:24 GMT
Well summed up. Would've been nice for him to name and shame the player though. The fact that it could be one of any number speaks volumes.
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Post by philb on Aug 23, 2018 11:43:28 GMT
I’ve got a simple question.... What the f*cks going on with my beloved club?
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Post by foster on Aug 23, 2018 11:44:21 GMT
Can the chap on the left step aside (take the bloke on the right with you) and leave your dad to run the club Should bring Denise in. She wouldn't stand for half the shit Scholes, Cartwright and her charity case brother are subjecting the club and fans to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 11:44:43 GMT
Fuck me, grim reading eh! Yesterday was a real turning point, things are going to be changing soon one way or another. Will they, in what regard? Going down a division? One way or another like I said. Either the board start acting now and make some changes to the hierarchy etc, else the fans will turn and give them no choice but to do it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 23, 2018 11:44:58 GMT
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Post by fazza90 on Aug 23, 2018 11:46:35 GMT
I'd love to think that when the player walked back into the changing room refusing to play, that a couple of the squad charged after him and gave him both barrels but with the squad we have I imagine they just stood there with their hands on their hips and looking at their feet.
We have a right bunch of pansies playing for is and Ince is 100% correct that we need to grow some balls. Mainly the players but also the bigwigs in charge
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Post by chigstoke on Aug 23, 2018 11:54:43 GMT
Can the chap on the left step aside (take the bloke on the right with you) and leave your dad to run the club Leaving it to Peter is still just as bad. Give it to Denise and her black mamba, she wouldn't take any shit off of Teflon or the wank way the club is being run, I'm pretty fucking sure.
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Post by flea79 on Aug 23, 2018 11:57:35 GMT
I'd love to think that when the player walked back into the changing room refusing to play, that a couple of the squad charged after him and gave him both barrels but with the squad we have I imagine they just stood there with their hands on their hips and looking at their feet. We have a right bunch of pansies playing for is and Ince is 100% correct that we need to grow some balls. Mainly the players but also the bigwigs in charge pretty much bet shitcross was on his knees noshing at Rowett's tallywhacker and begging to keep the captains armband when he came up for air, cant see any other reason he still has it, probably didnt even notice he was missing
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2018 12:06:11 GMT
Why specifically have Ndiaye, Choupo-Moting and Cameron been frozen out of the first team squad? Whilst I understand the need to move players on, they are employed by us and should be in contention in the current climate. I'd guess it's because all three of them have made it abundantly clear that they think playing in the Championship is below them and whilst they realise that they are contracted to play for the club, they are only prepared to do the absolute bare minimum if they are called upon to do so. And Rowett refuses to work with players who possess that sort of attitude.
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Post by metalhead on Aug 23, 2018 12:07:28 GMT
Will they, in what regard? Going down a division? One way or another like I said. Either the board start acting now and make some changes to the hierarchy etc, else the fans will turn and give them no choice but to do it. You really need to get with the programme mate. Tony Scholes and Mark Cartwright are not going anywhere. They are very safe in their jobs. There is no chance they'll be leaving any time soon. Peter continues to make money out of Stoke..... when that stops he will evaluate their employment, but until then, let the money train keep rolling for Saint Pete. So actually, it's a non story. NDiaye was being a cunt last week, posting messages to Galatasaturk fans saying to meet him at the airport. He's a cunt. End of really. I'd love to think that when the player walked back into the changing room refusing to play, that a couple of the squad charged after him and gave him both barrels but with the squad we have I imagine they just stood there with their hands on their hips and looking at their feet. We have a right bunch of pansies playing for is and Ince is 100% correct that we need to grow some balls. Mainly the players but also the bigwigs in charge Those days are long gone mate. Someone like Rory Delap or Richard Cresswell would have followed him into the changing room and had him up against the wall in tears. The lad would have arrived 10 minutes early the next day. He would have never missed a session again. Those kind of big personalities don't exist in the squad now. I'm not sure how much they truly exist in football anymore. I'm sure I read some rumour about how Roy Keane once had one of the Ipswich lads up by the throat after a game, because he was pissing around on his phone and laughing in the dressing room. That side of football has been replaced. It has become quite 'effeminate'. Big smiles and poses and group selfies on the team bus over a game of Mario Kart. If you listen to Jimmy Bullard's podcast (The Magic Sponge), he talks about how the game has changed this way and how a lot of the modern day players will not be criticised etc. What we have in our squad, isn't big personalities like the promotion squad, we have big egos..... that isn't the same thing. We have players who fancy themselves a lot..... they spend hours in the mirror and they express their self admiration by posting shit selfies on Instacrap or Twatter. Those are big egos and usually you can counter act them with a couple of big personalities but who? Who's the one who stands up in the dressing room after last nights shambles and tells a few home truths to some of the other cunts in that squad? Where was he last year? Where was he the season before? Jon Walters perhaps? Slowly, those big personalities were replaced by big egos and now all we have left is egos...... and unfortunately, they lack the necessary talent to back it up. We're fucked.
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Post by goonyoustoke on Aug 23, 2018 12:08:36 GMT
I'd love to think that when the player walked back into the changing room refusing to play, that a couple of the squad charged after him and gave him both barrels but with the squad we have I imagine they just stood there with their hands on their hips and looking at their feet. We have a right bunch of pansies playing for is and Ince is 100% correct that we need to grow some balls. Mainly the players but also the bigwigs in charge pretty much bet shitcross was on his knees noshing at Rowett's tallywhacker and begging to keep the captains armband when he came up for air, cant see any other reason he still has it, probably didnt even notice he was missing I just want this nightmare to end!!! I wish I was a worm and you were a bird and you were pecking me to death to feed your young.
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Post by auntiegeorge on Aug 23, 2018 12:09:22 GMT
I can't seem to read the link without a Telegraph subscription but I hardly ever disagree with Percy. Is it in the print version, because I assume the Coates clan are Telegraph readers.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 23, 2018 12:11:20 GMT
Mr. Coates, are you still 100% confident that there are no issues at all with the process?
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Post by st3mark on Aug 23, 2018 12:12:41 GMT
It went wrong somewhere between the day Pulis left and the time Hughes/the transfer team filled the squad with players with no balls. First couple of seasons Hughes had strong players like Bego, Ryan, n’zonzi, Whelan, Walters etc. TP had a philosophy of football that a lot of fans didn’t like. It’s the most enjoyable spell of supporting the team for me personally. And his Boro side have started magnificently but that’s another debate. Anyway, from there Hughes and the transfer team brought in some top quality to go with the solid pros we had. We added the likes of Bojan, Arnie, Shaq, who though inconsistent had some glorious performances and we had a mini golden era where it seemed we had cracked it. Then Hughes let go the likes of Whelan, Walters, Huth (who went on to win a title which shows what he had left to offer) and through no fault of his own we had to sell Bego and n’zonzi - losing all fighting spirit in the team. Then players like Arnie were sold for relatively big money and replaced with choupo fucking moting on a free. And prior to that N’zonzi was replaced by Imbula who hasn’t even learnt to speak English. Oh for heaven's sake! Were you watching the Stoke players during Pulis's last season and a half? The body language at times was a disgrace and there were all sorts going on behind the scenes. You don't remember the pig's head incident or a player putting a team mate's car window through? There were experienced players in that dressing room who were well pissed off when Pulis didn't take them to Valencia. I don't dispute that at the height of his powers we had some great characters in TP's dressing room, but let's not re-write history eh? Yes I did watch his last season and half. And agree they were poor performances but if you are only going to think about the worst 12 months of his time here then you’re the one rewriting history. I watched every season he was here and it’s pretty much a golden period in our history. Look at what he’s achieving at Boro now. The defenders we have got currently would be keeping clean sheets if we had a manager of his calibre now. Not really sure how the pigs head incident with players nothing to do with the current squad has resulted in it going wrong.
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Post by liamo on Aug 23, 2018 12:14:39 GMT
Why specifically have Ndiaye, Choupo-Moting and Cameron been frozen out of the first team squad? Whilst I understand the need to move players on, they are employed by us and should be in contention in the current climate. I'd guess it's because all three of them have made it abundantly clear that they think playing in the Championship is below them and whilst they realise that they are contracted to play for the club, they are only prepared to do the absolute bare minimum if they are called upon to do so. And Rowett refuses to work with players who possess that sort of attitude. I'm getting that feeling off a lot of the starting team to be honest They didn't have the balls to fight to stay up, they haven't got the balls to get promoted, they talk a good game but they've got no fight at all No fight, very little skill and no desire It's why we're getting rings run round us by players we've never even heard of, they want to be right where they are, they're hungry and want to climb the ladder, most of our squad are rejects that have already sat stop the ladder, got fat and are happy to slowly slide back down it on massive wages Bit like the uncle that's got a beer belly and no hair that swears blind he used to bang supermodels in the 80s and still could now if he wanted to
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Aug 23, 2018 12:15:08 GMT
They should spend a couple of hours in the company of my 5 year old. He cried when wigan scored their 2nd goal and his very first words when he woke up were "daddy afobe wasn't offside and the ref was rubbish" Poor lad, he's in for a lifetime of this supporting Stoke, and England too! Keep him well away from the game of cricket as well!
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