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Post by camstoke10 on Aug 5, 2018 17:26:01 GMT
He has to play vs Brentford we have looked much better since him and fletcher came on, much more creativity, also crouch made a good Plaistow impact but very disappointing from most players
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Post by goatbulgaria on Aug 5, 2018 17:29:01 GMT
He has to play vs Brentford we have looked much better since him and fletcher came on, much more creativity, also crouch made a good Plaistow impact but very disappointing from most players Obviously you're joking
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Post by camstoke10 on Aug 5, 2018 17:35:49 GMT
He has to play vs Brentford we have looked much better since him and fletcher came on, much more creativity, also crouch made a good Plaistow impact but very disappointing from most players Obviously you're joking Well do you think we are going to win with that shit midfield in the first half? Bojan has to play, and we have to sign another striker 100%
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 5, 2018 17:38:32 GMT
We were way better with Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch than without them.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 17:39:31 GMT
Bojan was probably the only positive of today. Looked calm in possession and played some good passes when he came on.
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Post by generationex on Aug 5, 2018 17:39:51 GMT
Crouch made a difference . The rest. Meh.
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 17:41:12 GMT
We were way better with Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch than without them. Fletcher was wank!!
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Post by toppercorner on Aug 5, 2018 17:42:07 GMT
the only one who has vision and technical ability to pick out other stoke players.
we looked far more dangerous for the limited time he was on (with crouch)
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 5, 2018 17:44:25 GMT
A breath of fresh air in a sewer of complete shit.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 5, 2018 17:44:30 GMT
We were way better with Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch than without them. Fletcher was wank!! The side were better with the above three players. I'm not saying anything about individuals in this instance. That's just what happened.
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Post by camstoke10 on Aug 5, 2018 17:44:33 GMT
We were way better with Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch than without them. Fletcher was wank!! You obviously have something against fletcher he came on and he was solid, nothing else needs to be said
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Post by werrington on Aug 5, 2018 17:45:46 GMT
He has to play vs Brentford we have looked much better since him and fletcher came on, much more creativity, also crouch made a good Plaistow impact but very disappointing from most players Obviously you're joking Why would he be ?
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 17:46:44 GMT
You obviously have something against fletcher he came on and he was solid, nothing else needs to be said He looked 5 yards behind the play as usual. He’s far too slow. Shouldn’t be anywhere near a football pitch.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 5, 2018 17:47:32 GMT
He is one of the few decent players with creativity we have, and why we pissed him off abroad is a scandal!
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 17:47:53 GMT
The side were better with the above three players. I'm not saying anything about individuals in this instance. That's just what happened. I thought on the whole second half we were much better without being dangerous going forward. I’d put it down to the change in formation from 4-3-3 to 4-2-3-1 as you said, nothing to do with any of the personnel.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2018 17:50:27 GMT
Bojan has to start. Caution to the wind, but give him a decent go.
The reason Fletcher looked better than the others is he actually played the bog standard DM role/ Imagine if we hard a decent one of those.
I've read it multiple times here in the last ten minutes, but we cannot play Allen / Badou / Etebo, unless we want the same result.
That was a vert difficult watch this afternoon.
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Post by steakandchips on Aug 5, 2018 17:52:17 GMT
GR’s insistance he would play a number 10, earlier this summer, is dumbfounding. How on earth did he manage to get Derby to the playoffs without a number 10? The forward looos so isolated in this system.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 5, 2018 17:52:32 GMT
Think it was more to do with the change from 433 to 4231 than the individual players per se.
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Post by rawli on Aug 5, 2018 17:54:19 GMT
We were way better with Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch than without them. Fletcher was wank!! How was he wank exactly?
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Post by rawli on Aug 5, 2018 17:55:56 GMT
He has to play vs Brentford we have looked much better since him and fletcher came on, much more creativity, also crouch made a good Plaistow impact but very disappointing from most players Obviously you're joking You thought we were worse without him?
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 5, 2018 17:59:44 GMT
GR’s insistance he would play a number 10, earlier this summer, is dumbfounding. How on earth did he manage to get Derby to the playoffs without a number 10? The forward looos so isolated in this system. Vydra played as a 10 all season for Derby
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Post by jeycov on Aug 5, 2018 18:01:57 GMT
The side were better with the above three players. I'm not saying anything about individuals in this instance. That's just what happened. Yes anticipated movement and passed into space Crouch could cause havoc with some decent service Confidence needs to be restored throughout the team
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 18:04:22 GMT
Gave the ball away and is slow and ponderous.
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 5, 2018 18:04:35 GMT
the only one who has vision and technical ability to pick out other stoke players. we looked far more dangerous for the limited time he was on (with crouch) Sadly the other players don't have his football mind and and give him fuck all options. He can rip defences wide open with a pass but the cunts don't move after playing a short one two with him. Then it looks like he's just knocked the ball to no one.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 5, 2018 18:07:49 GMT
Fletcher, Bojan and Crouch are 3 legacy players who will do nothing in this league
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Post by Block 22 on Aug 5, 2018 18:10:53 GMT
Fletcher and Crouch are legacy players who will do nothing in this league Completely agree mate.
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 5, 2018 18:19:33 GMT
the only one who has vision and technical ability to pick out other stoke players. we looked far more dangerous for the limited time he was on (with crouch) Sadly the other players don't have his football mind and and give him fuck all options. He can rip defences wide open with a pass but the cunts don't move after playing a short one two with him. Then it looks like he's just knocked the ball to no one. Very true, he played a decent first time ball to Allen on the edge of the Leeds box and Allen was on his heels not expecting it. Not necessarily Allen's fault, he is used to telegraphed passes from his team mates but the point is Bojan moves the ball far quicker than others, he doesn't run around like a dog chasing a balloon though so can't see him starting any time soon.
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Post by bobby1eye on Aug 5, 2018 18:25:30 GMT
Sadly the other players don't have his football mind and and give him fuck all options. He can rip defences wide open with a pass but the cunts don't move after playing a short one two with him. Then it looks like he's just knocked the ball to no one. Very true, he played a decent first time ball to Allen on the edge of the Leeds box and Allen was on his heels not expecting it. Not necessarily Allen's fault, he is used to telegraphed passes from his team mates but the point is Bojan moves the ball far quicker than others, he doesn't run around like a dog chasing a balloon though so can't see him starting any time soon. He doesn't need to run around like a dog chasing a ball,others should be doing that around him. The players around him make him look wank and he definitely isn't that.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Aug 5, 2018 18:35:53 GMT
Picked up a knock at the end
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Post by stokecity4life on Aug 5, 2018 19:29:48 GMT
Short message to GR etc - for gods sake can we play this guy.
Yes, yes, yes i know he`s not exactly the strongest player but he`s the ONLY player i can see in our squad who is a number 10, he finds pockets of space and always has been able too, picks a pass and links the play together.
I`ve been saying this since he came back from his injury and it`s as thought the management are blind.
Previously you could argue we had Shaq, Arnie etc....... but now we have no one! Ince is a winger, McLean is a winger.....
Surly to God the current best setup is the one we tried to employ in the second half
Etebu and Allen as holding two, Bojan as the number 10 behind the Striker with Ince and Mclean out wide!?
I`m not even going to start about Badau or the defense today but here`s to hoping the back 5 improve....
Seriously though, we looked infinitly better with Bojan on and knock Crouch all you like he was basically our MOM today.
We desperately need another Striker, and another forward player to add competition.
There`s so much to do but we shoot ourselves in the foot by not playing Bojan, he WILL create loads of goals, he WILL score plenty of goals - i`ll bet anyone £1000 he would providing he stays fit of course.
Fuming about today.
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