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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 23, 2018 13:04:51 GMT
Good luck to the guy. I quite liked him. He was past his best, but he gave his best. He tried a little too hard perhaps but I don’t know why people thing his leaving is like a new signing. He talked an England international into not joining NO HE DID NOT!
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Post by thegift on Jul 23, 2018 13:04:54 GMT
To be pedantic we did get a point v Brighton so it's 8 points not 9😀 I don’t think the stupid back pass ( I assume Gifty is referring to Leicester away) cost anything either. There is no saying that we would have beaten Everton with 11 men as we had to wait until the last game of the season to beat anybody! Jack must be close to 9 points if you count the own goal at Leicester and his refusal to catch any ball that was more than 2 feet of his goal line. But without him at Leicester we could of lost 5-0, he more than made up for his error.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 23, 2018 13:04:57 GMT
Bizarre appearances in the media, dating back to the Shaq goal. The whole Delph incident, and then he somewhat ridiculous critique of Shaqiri. That's not even going into his misdemeanors on the pitch.
4 assists in 3 seasons says it all really. His delivery is completely overrated, and he obviously doesn't have the correct physical aspects to make up for it.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 23, 2018 13:06:27 GMT
To be pedantic we did get a point v Brighton so it's 8 points not 9😀 I don’t think the stupid back pass ( I assume Gifty is referring to Leicester away) cost anything either. There is no saying that we would have beaten Everton with 11 men as we had to wait until the last game of the season to beat anybody! Jack must be close to 9 points if you count the own goal at Leicester and his refusal to catch any ball that was more than 2 feet of his goal line. Because Jack made a great save. He made an even better one handed one before that too. Shame about the goal mind.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 23, 2018 13:07:52 GMT
Lets hope and pray. Single handedly lost us 9 points last year and also advised players not to join us. Terrible ability and an awful attitude who's more focused on his radio career than his footballing one, and no surprise with that big tub of lard hanging from his stomach. The stuff about advising players not to join us is utter garbage. As is most of this post. No it’s not. I heard with my own ears. He told Fabian Delph he would enjoy playing for Stoke but questioned why he would leave Man City to join Stoke. He was probably right, but you don’t say that to a potential recruit. I wouldn’t put it past him discouraging a better player from joining Stoke because it would keep himself out of the team. He’s a sneaky twat and to actually admit it on the radio either means he’s really stupid or doesn’t give a shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 13:08:13 GMT
Lets hope and pray. Single handedly lost us 9 points last year and also advised players not to join us. Terrible ability and an awful attitude who's more focused on his radio career than his footballing one, and no surprise with that big tub of lard hanging from his stomach. To be fair to Charlie, and despite all his best efforts in the pantry, he is still eclipsed by Alan "Moonhead" Brazil 😬
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jul 23, 2018 13:08:31 GMT
Overall, he proved to be an excellent signing and provided us with some memorable moments. He's always going to divide opinion, but to judge his time here only on his performances last season is out of order. There were plenty of players who didn't cover themselves in glory last season, but Charlie just happens to be the one who's mistakes will be remembered for their stark nature.
A very good footballer in his prime, but perhaps didn't do him self any favors in terms of maintaining his personal fitness and controlling his......let's call it "enthusiasm" in the heat of the moment. He's always seemed like a decent fella who if anything, cared a bit too much at times. Wish him all the best and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him step into coaching / management in the not to distant future. Thanks for the memories, Charlie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 13:08:55 GMT
Probably a few years too late but then he's never been a starter when everyone was fit for us really has he? I still find it amazing that Liverpool built a team around him for a season. If only a few, more able bodied players had his commitment last season, or if he'd laid off the Monster Munch and Maltesers he might have gotten to that Penalty rebound in time..... His best game (and maybe Diouf' too) was probably the 6-1. Very talented but probably a generation or two too late. He was tailor made for having a cigar and whiskey chaser at half time. 🎯👍👏😬
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 13:09:48 GMT
Why is we have to send players on there way with abuse ,why can we not just way bye bye with a thanks for the good times ,especially when they have given there all ,makes us look very childish It's like splitting g with an ex Hating her makes it easier to say goodbye 😬
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 23, 2018 13:11:13 GMT
Overall, he proved to be an excellent signing and provided us with some memorable moments. He's always going to divide opinion, but to judge his time here only on his performances last season is out of order. There were plenty of players who didn't cover themselves in glory last season, but Charlie just happens to be the one who's mistakes will be remembered for their stark nature. A very good footballer in his prime, but perhaps didn't do him self any favors in terms of maintaining his personal fitness and controlling his......let's call it "enthusiasm" in the heat of the moment. He's always seemed like a decent fella who if anything, cared a bit too much at times. Wish him all the best and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him step into coaching / management in the not to distant future. Thanks for the memories, Charlie. 4 assists in 3 seasons. 2 goals. He's been garbage for years. That's fewer than Choupo (5 goals/5 assists) (routinely lambasted an often rightfully so) managed in one season.
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Post by thehoof on Jul 23, 2018 13:13:32 GMT
I don’t think the stupid back pass ( I assume Gifty is referring to Leicester away) cost anything either. There is no saying that we would have beaten Everton with 11 men as we had to wait until the last game of the season to beat anybody! Jack must be close to 9 points if you count the own goal at Leicester and his refusal to catch any ball that was more than 2 feet of his goal line. But without him at Leicester we could of lost 5-0, he more than made up for his error. Gifty that is bollocks. He made two saves after letting Leicester back into the game that any competent keeper expecting to go to the World Cup should have made. His balls up on crosses cost us an additional two points at West Ham, a point at Bournemouth , a point at home against Spurs and two points at home against Burnley. They were mistakes as blatant as Adam’s missed penalty and sending off. People moan about Federici but don’t see any issue with a 6 foot 4 inch goalkeeper failing to police the 6 yard box? That may be one of the reasons JB is hopefully still with us this year, and he rebuilds his reputation.
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Post by Davef on Jul 23, 2018 13:17:14 GMT
The stuff about advising players not to join us is utter garbage. As is most of this post. No it’s not. I heard with my own ears. He told Fabian Delph he would enjoy playing for Stoke but questioned why he would leave Man City to join Stoke. He was probably right, but you don’t say that to a potential recruit. I wouldn’t put it past him discouraging a better player from joining Stoke because it would keep himself out of the team. He’s a sneaky twat and to actually admit it on the radio either means he’s really stupid or doesn’t give a shit. He didn't advise him not to sign for Stoke though did he?
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jul 23, 2018 13:17:23 GMT
Overall, he proved to be an excellent signing and provided us with some memorable moments. He's always going to divide opinion, but to judge his time here only on his performances last season is out of order. There were plenty of players who didn't cover themselves in glory last season, but Charlie just happens to be the one who's mistakes will be remembered for their stark nature. A very good footballer in his prime, but perhaps didn't do him self any favors in terms of maintaining his personal fitness and controlling his......let's call it "enthusiasm" in the heat of the moment. He's always seemed like a decent fella who if anything, cared a bit too much at times. Wish him all the best and wouldn't be at all surprised to see him step into coaching / management in the not to distant future. Thanks for the memories, Charlie. 4 assists in 3 seasons. 2 goals. He's been garbage for years. That's fewer than Choupo (5 goals/5 assists) (routinely lambasted an often rightfully so) managed in one season. Choupo played most of those games as a fucking striker and is supposedly at the "peak" of his career. Apples and oranges, mate. Joe Allen has only 8 goals and 8 assists over the last two season, despite playing almost every game, so let's not muddy the waters by pretending Adam's recent record somehow makes him the most culpable party in our demise.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 23, 2018 13:18:19 GMT
But without him at Leicester we could of lost 5-0, he more than made up for his error. Gifty that is bollocks. He made two saves after letting Leicester back into the game that any competent keeper expecting to go to the World Cup should have made. His balls up on crosses cost us an additional two points at West Ham, a point at Bournemouth , a point at home against Spurs and two points at home against Burnley. They were mistakes as blatant as Adam’s missed penalty and sending off. People moan about Federici but don’t see any issue with a 6 foot 4 inch goalkeeper failing to police the 6 yard box? That may be one of the reasons JB is hopefully still with us this year, and he rebuilds his reputation. Butland won us points too though, for balance. Swansea and Arsenal were games we would have lost without him. West Brom at home he made an incredible save on the line at 95 minutes, which we then broke and scored from. He made a great save at Southampton away from Soares late on...I can go on. There's not doubting he wasn't at his best, but if we're gonna count up what he did wrong last year, we have to take into account what he did well.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jul 23, 2018 13:19:25 GMT
4 assists in 3 seasons. 2 goals. He's been garbage for years. That's fewer than Choupo (5 goals/5 assists) (routinely lambasted an often rightfully so) managed in one season. Choupo played most of those games as a fucking striker and is supposedly at the "peak" of his career. Apples and oranges, mate. Joe Allen has only 8 goals and 8 assists over the last two season, despite playing almost every game, so let's not muddy the waters by pretending Adam's recent record somehow makes him the most culpable party in our demise. He's a set piece specialist though? I thought his delivery was one of the key reasons why he continue to make the side. He isn't most culpable, but if you were to put it on a games to impact ration he'd be pretty high up for making a high number of fuck ups in a small number of games.
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Post by bloodtypered on Jul 23, 2018 13:19:59 GMT
Hes a big liability and he can change games for the good
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jul 23, 2018 13:22:02 GMT
Choupo played most of those games as a fucking striker and is supposedly at the "peak" of his career. Apples and oranges, mate. Joe Allen has only 8 goals and 8 assists over the last two season, despite playing almost every game, so let's not muddy the waters by pretending Adam's recent record somehow makes him the most culpable party in our demise. He's a set piece specialist though? I thought his delivery was one of the key reasons why he continue to make the side. But you’re quoting his stats from the last two years where he’s been a bit part player, and certainly not one who’s been responsible for our set-peice delivery with any regularity.
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Post by thegift on Jul 23, 2018 13:22:08 GMT
But without him at Leicester we could of lost 5-0, he more than made up for his error. Gifty that is bollocks. He made two saves after letting Leicester back into the game that any competent keeper expecting to go to the World Cup should have made. His balls up on crosses cost us an additional two points at West Ham, a point at Bournemouth , a point at home against Spurs and two points at home against Burnley. They were mistakes as blatant as Adam’s missed penalty and sending off. People moan about Federici but don’t see any issue with a 6 foot 4 inch goalkeeper failing to police the 6 yard box? That may be one of the reasons JB is hopefully still with us this year, and he rebuilds his reputation. Well bollocks it may be, but take them specs off and you will see differently.
Jack may of made errors but he also saved us countless times with world class saves, Charlie however fucked up a dozen times and never made up for them once.
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2018 13:27:43 GMT
Gifty that is bollocks. He made two saves after letting Leicester back into the game that any competent keeper expecting to go to the World Cup should have made. His balls up on crosses cost us an additional two points at West Ham, a point at Bournemouth , a point at home against Spurs and two points at home against Burnley. They were mistakes as blatant as Adam’s missed penalty and sending off. People moan about Federici but don’t see any issue with a 6 foot 4 inch goalkeeper failing to police the 6 yard box? That may be one of the reasons JB is hopefully still with us this year, and he rebuilds his reputation. Well bollocks it may be, but take them specs off and you will see differently.
Jack may of made errors but he also saved us countless times with world class saves, Charlie however fucked up a dozen times and never made up for them once.
Over his Stoke career Charlie has been a match winner. One season too many,sure.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2018 13:40:47 GMT
I don't hold much sympathy for other teams but Villa, after all the underfunding, carpet bagging and general failure to lose Chester and gain an aging, ever slowing, ever growing Adam warrants my sympathy 😁
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 23, 2018 14:11:16 GMT
If only the heading to this thread had the question mark removed, I would be far happier.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 23, 2018 14:14:35 GMT
I don’t think the stupid back pass ( I assume Gifty is referring to Leicester away) cost anything either. There is no saying that we would have beaten Everton with 11 men as we had to wait until the last game of the season to beat anybody! Jack must be close to 9 points if you count the own goal at Leicester and his refusal to catch any ball that was more than 2 feet of his goal line. But without him at Leicester we could of lost 5-0, he more than made up for his error. No he did what he is paid to do,most decent keepers would have kept a clean sheet.It was a monumental fuck up.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jul 23, 2018 14:26:44 GMT
Can’t wait for him to leave Stoke. Biggest single reason why we got relegated last season. Absolute bollocks...... it’s been well documented by players and supporters that there were a number of work shy players who didn’t put a shift in last season. Charlie isn’t the ‘single biggest reason’ by a long shot Stay off the spice hey son... Arrogant bastard! By all means have a difference of opinion, but who the fcuk do you think you are little man to speak to anyone like that. Ain the meantime, a long lesson in good manners and a very long course in intelligent argument might just improve your responses somewhat.
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Post by ursemboys on Jul 23, 2018 14:27:21 GMT
Why is we have to send players on there way with abuse ,why can we not just way bye bye with a thanks for the good times ,especially when they have given there all ,makes us look very childish It's like splitting g with an ex Hating her makes it easier to say goodbye 😬 That is so true lol , Gif you love Charlie really lol
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jul 23, 2018 14:32:22 GMT
He's been a good signing for the 5m he cost but as most would agree its time for him to move on so we can give our midfield a freshen up.
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Post by thegift on Jul 23, 2018 14:32:37 GMT
It's like splitting g with an ex Hating her makes it easier to say goodbye 😬 That is so true lol , Gif you love Charlie really lol I could of strangled him when he missed that penalty and rebound not going to lie I was raging
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Post by lordb on Jul 23, 2018 14:33:48 GMT
Absolute bollocks...... it’s been well documented by players and supporters that there were a number of work shy players who didn’t put a shift in last season. Charlie isn’t the ‘single biggest reason’ by a long shot Stay off the spice hey son... Arrogant bastard! By all means have a difference of opinion, but who the fcuk do you think you are little man to speak to anyone like that. Ain the meantime, a long lesson in good manners and a very long course in intelligent argument might just improve your responses somewhat. OTT response All he said was the point was absolute bollocks. Mind you his last line was a bit disrespectful.
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Post by ursemboys on Jul 23, 2018 14:35:39 GMT
That is so true lol , Gif you love Charlie really lol I could of strangled him when he missed that penalty and rebound not going to lie I was raging You not the only one,then again there are a few who we could strangle ,anyway if he does go Villa though i think its Rangers ,money is on a own goal and a missed penalty to say sorry to us for the Brighton match
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Post by stantheman on Jul 23, 2018 14:36:26 GMT
The stuff about advising players not to join us is utter garbage. As is most of this post. No it’s not. I heard with my own ears. He told Fabian Delph he would enjoy playing for Stoke but questioned why he would leave Man City to join Stoke. He was probably right, but you don’t say that to a potential recruit. I wouldn’t put it past him discouraging a better player from joining Stoke because it would keep himself out of the team. He’s a sneaky twat and to actually admit it on the radio either means he’s really stupid or doesn’t give a shit. Do you actually think that Delph gave a rat's ass about what Charlie said/didn't say? Do you think that when the offer was on the table from Stoke he turned around to his agent and said 'no forget it, Charlie says I should stay where I am'?!
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Post by thegift on Jul 23, 2018 14:39:14 GMT
No it’s not. I heard with my own ears. He told Fabian Delph he would enjoy playing for Stoke but questioned why he would leave Man City to join Stoke. He was probably right, but you don’t say that to a potential recruit. I wouldn’t put it past him discouraging a better player from joining Stoke because it would keep himself out of the team. He’s a sneaky twat and to actually admit it on the radio either means he’s really stupid or doesn’t give a shit. Do you actually think that Delph gave a rat's ass about what Charlie said/didn't say? Do you think that when the offer was on the table from Stoke he turned around to his agent and said 'no forget it, Charlie says I should stay where I am'?! Not the point though is it stan
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