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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 11:23:26 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 14, 2018 11:23:26 GMT
According to Gary Neville he’s a very naughty boy He'll change his mind now he's at a big club I think that’s why the rapist lookylikey dissed him, cause everyone knew he was going to L’pool... I do feel like we’ve been dumped & it’s our own fault for not taking better care of the club & when I say we, you know who I mean 😥
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 11:23:34 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 14, 2018 11:23:34 GMT
Just wished the Graham Shaw at home on debut v Huddersfield was on video along with Phil Heath away at Oldham ( won 4-2 ) and Chamberlain away at Birmingham when we went 4-0 before HT All similar goals to that one mate
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Post by luke45 on Jul 14, 2018 11:39:33 GMT
No issue with his departure at all and I'm glad it's been concluded in time for us to hopefully reinvest some of that money back in the squad and strengthen us further. There's no point in being bitter about the fee, in order to attract players of his calibre you have to compromise on clauses sometimes and obviously we thought it was a risk worth taking at the time.
He's a Premier League standard footballer and he's entitled to his move away, it's a good move for him and it'll be interesting to see how much an an impact he makes. We've retained him for three years because he's a player who has delivered inconsistency throughout his entire career, we know how good he can be but equally we know how frustrating he can be as well. 15 goals and 15 assists from 84 Premier League appearances highlights the sort of player he is.
Personally I hold no resentment towards him, his statement, whoever it was written by was fair and respectful and I think he'll get a good reception off our fans if/when our paths cross again.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 14, 2018 11:45:55 GMT
The most gifted player I ever saw in a Stoke shire was Hudson , he joined a team near the bottom of the league in February and took them into the top 8 , we qualified for Europe in the league whilst he was on his game and without the curse of three broken legs in the same season might have been champions , shame he didn't make the most of his talent .
Shaq now has a second chance at the big time after Bayern and Inter and its up to him to take it , there will be nobody to blame but him if he fails at Liverpool , given us some great moments but never gave enough to be remembered as a Stoke legend .
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2018 11:48:49 GMT
He'll thrive with movement in front of him, that virtually died when Arnie left.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2018 12:04:45 GMT
I was on the Boothen End, as usual, that day and that run was absolutely fantastic to watch. Beautiful Me as well mate. It was a breathtaking run.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2018 12:08:07 GMT
It maybe related to when you were born. If your inaugural and teenage years coincided with lowest ever ebb of the club it's been the thinnest of thin gruels. Shaqiri is easily in the top four of five gifted players in my four decades of supporting the club. I think in some cases it’s down to how you view football. Some people like to have a connection with players where others don’t need that connection. The phrase you see quite often about Shaq, and I’ve used it myself is “never warmed to him.” I was and still am gutted that Arnie’s no longer with us, whereas Shaq’s just another player that’s been and gone. A very high quality one obviously, but not one I’ll get depressed over when I watch him on MOTD, which I tend to do when I see our crazy Austrian genius in the claret and blue. I don't really get why anyone wouldn't take to him though. I feared he'd go into his shell and protect himself as we got closer to the World Cup but he showed more professional pride than some still at the club. To doubt his talent though, as some have, is borderline moronic.
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 12:08:56 GMT
Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2018 12:08:56 GMT
Just wished the Graham Shaw at home on debut v Huddersfield was on video along with Phil Heath away at Oldham ( won 4-2 ) and Chamberlain away at Birmingham when we went 4-0 before HT All similar goals to that one mate Didn't see and haven't really heard tale of the Heath one mate. Was it a good 'un?
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Post by werrington on Jul 14, 2018 12:12:11 GMT
Just wished the Graham Shaw at home on debut v Huddersfield was on video along with Phil Heath away at Oldham ( won 4-2 ) and Chamberlain away at Birmingham when we went 4-0 before HT All similar goals to that one mate Didn't see and haven't really heard tale of the Heath one mate. Was it a good 'un? Superb mate just picked up the ball left side and ran at them before cutting in onto his right foot 25 yards out
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Post by Absolution on Jul 14, 2018 12:15:51 GMT
I think in some cases it’s down to how you view football. Some people like to have a connection with players where others don’t need that connection. The phrase you see quite often about Shaq, and I’ve used it myself is “never warmed to him.” I was and still am gutted that Arnie’s no longer with us, whereas Shaq’s just another player that’s been and gone. A very high quality one obviously, but not one I’ll get depressed over when I watch him on MOTD, which I tend to do when I see our crazy Austrian genius in the claret and blue. I don't really get why anyone wouldn't take to him though. I feared he'd go into his shell and protect himself as we got closer to the World Cup but he showed more professional pride than some still at the club. To doubt his talent though, as some have, is borderline moronic. There was just something about him, but that's just a personal thing. I agree though, he looked like he was giving it everything to keep us up. In fairness, whatever the criticism of Lambert, he seemed to get all the players fighting for the cause (those on the pitch anyway).
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 13:22:45 GMT
Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 14, 2018 13:22:45 GMT
I don't really get why anyone wouldn't take to him though. I feared he'd go into his shell and protect himself as we got closer to the World Cup but he showed more professional pride than some still at the club. To doubt his talent though, as some have, is borderline moronic. There was just something about him, but that's just a personal thing. I agree though, he looked like he was giving it everything to keep us up. In fairness, whatever the criticism of Lambert, he seemed to get all the players fighting for the cause (those on the pitch anyway). This. Could never understand the harsh treatment of Lambert by some on here. He was dealt very poor cards with the squad stay aways and Hughes legacy. He tried his best, instilled discipline but simply, along with some of the players, was not good enough. Don’t forget he was 4th choice at best and probably more of a panic appointment given that QSF, GR, MON and Keane had all turned the job down.
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 13:56:30 GMT
Post by Dr Hesham on Jul 14, 2018 13:56:30 GMT
He cant find a place in their 1st team ahead of Salah or Mane.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 13:58:22 GMT
He cant find a place in their 1st team ahead of Salah or Mane. I don't think that's where they'd play him. I think he might be tried in the Coutinho role of 'Sort of centre mid but not really, with no defensive responsibility'.
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Post by Dr Hesham on Jul 14, 2018 14:02:42 GMT
He cant find a place in their 1st team ahead of Salah or Mane. I don't think that's where they'd play him. I think he might be tried in the Coutinho role of 'Sort of centre mid but not really, with no defensive responsibility'. He may be tried in this position but Salah doesnt defend too, so two players with no defensive tasks will be too much for the team, he was already too lazy with Stoke which was a problem for the team from a defensive point of view.
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 14:10:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 14:10:29 GMT
I don't think that's where they'd play him. I think he might be tried in the Coutinho role of 'Sort of centre mid but not really, with no defensive responsibility'. He may be tried in this position but Salah doesnt defend too, so two players with no defensive tasks will be too much for the team, he was already too lazy with Stoke which was a problem for the team from a defensive point of view. Coutinho didn't defend when he was there. I don't think it is a problem at all, Shaq is there to unlock stubborn defences with a few moments of skill. People complain about Ozil's work rate, but none of them would care if he was good at doing what he's supposed to be good at. As is, he only tends to do it against Bournemouth at home.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 14, 2018 14:14:41 GMT
Shaq's problem at Liverpool will be how he copes with no longer being the big fish.
He is a player who loves being the centre of attention.
Last season, with Arnie gone, there was an extra strut in in his step and just looking at some of his post match interviews you could see how much he relished the pressure of being expected to produce the big game changing moments.
I get the same feeling watching him play for Switzerland. If Shaq plays well, Switzerland do well, if he doesn't, they don't.
At Liverpool he is likely to be 3rd, 4th or 5th fiddle and I don't see him liking that.
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Post by mallorcanstokie on Jul 14, 2018 14:22:09 GMT
Oh for a young Peter Hoekstra, shame we got him at the end of his career, but still a privilege to have seen him play...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2018 16:03:14 GMT
The fee is an absolute joke.
Fucking board.
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 16:12:42 GMT
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Post by Absolution on Jul 14, 2018 16:12:42 GMT
The fee is an absolute joke. Fucking board. No it's not.
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 14, 2018 16:18:45 GMT
He started the season saying he was going to fire us to a European Tour, ended the season looking like someone had pissed in his socks. Personally don't think he would have stayed this close season regardless, and he knew his time was up, relegation just made it easier to get a move. I'm not losing any sleep over this.
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Post by lagwafis on Jul 14, 2018 16:20:32 GMT
It’s absolutely gutting that this is the best quality video of the goal. He had the most ridiculous habit of beating his man so many times before sometimes delivering a cross, but Christ, the goals he scored were out of this world. There's a better quality one here (Beagrie is the last player featured at 9:48)
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 16:31:46 GMT
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Post by Absolution on Jul 14, 2018 16:31:46 GMT
It’s absolutely gutting that this is the best quality video of the goal. He had the most ridiculous habit of beating his man so many times before sometimes delivering a cross, but Christ, the goals he scored were out of this world. There's a better quality one here (Beagrie is the last player featured at 9:48) Brilliant. Thanks for that.
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Post by werrington on Jul 14, 2018 16:43:42 GMT
There's a better quality one here (Beagrie is the last player featured at 9:48) Brilliant. Thanks for that. Apart from West Ham away and Southampton away I was at every other game on that 😊
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 16:51:26 GMT
Post by SamB_SCFC on Jul 14, 2018 16:51:26 GMT
I have no issues with Shaq whatsoever and on a few occasions he’s been a pleasure to watch. The glaringly obvious problem still sits with SCFC and the inept charlatans who orchestrated the clause being activated by getting us relegated in the first place, let’s face it we all knew that we needed a striker and we did exactly the square root of fcku all and sat back on our pompous arses and pretended to be a prime example of a well run club. Tomorrow nights final will be yet another smack in the teeth when yet another star was shipped out for a grand total of 8m (N Zonzi) Given events so far we’re exactly the same despite the PC lessons learned BS This is precisely the issue. The clause itself I don't have a problem with. It was a necessary evil to convince a top quality player to sign for us and it did it's job. It was the glaring mistakes that led to us getting relegated and the clause being triggered which was the real problem. The board are to blame for this. But not for inserting the clause it's the mistakes that led to the clause being activated which is where they deserve criticism.
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Shaq
Jul 14, 2018 17:29:12 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jul 14, 2018 17:29:12 GMT
Oh for a young Peter Hoekstra, shame we got him at the end of his career, but still a privilege to have seen him play... Hoekstra is my all time favourite player, Dutch Master.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 14, 2018 21:20:39 GMT
Oh for a young Peter Hoekstra, shame we got him at the end of his career, but still a privilege to have seen him play... Hoekstra is my all time favourite player, Dutch Master. Hoekstra and Shtaniuk will always be personal favourites. Shtaniuk seems to still follow us judging by his Twitter: twitter.com/SergeiShtaniuk
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Shaq
Jul 15, 2018 5:48:44 GMT
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Post by rawli on Jul 15, 2018 5:48:44 GMT
It’s absolutely gutting that this is the best quality video of the goal. He had the most ridiculous habit of beating his man so many times before sometimes delivering a cross, but Christ, the goals he scored were out of this world. There's a better quality one here (Beagrie is the last player featured at 9:48) Jesus. That Dave Watson goal at Southampton was a belter.
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Shaq
Jul 15, 2018 5:50:41 GMT
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Post by rawli on Jul 15, 2018 5:50:41 GMT
The fee is an absolute joke. Fucking board. I heard it's so low because of a release clause in his contract. Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 5:57:36 GMT
The fee is an absolute joke. Fucking board. I heard it's so low because of a release clause in his contract. Can anyone confirm this? All I know is that as Shaqiri was about to put pen to paper and sign a club official jumped in and said “Hang on a minute, we haven’t put in a release clause of £13m even though you haven’t asked for one and would have signed anyway” Staggering from the club it really was.....
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Post by Northy on Jul 15, 2018 6:14:06 GMT
I heard it's so low because of a release clause in his contract. Can anyone confirm this? All I know is that as Shaqiri was about to put pen to paper and sign a club official jumped in and said “Hang on a minute, we haven’t put in a release clause of £13m even though you haven’t asked for one and would have signed anyway” Staggering from the club it really was..... Eh, what's happened, I was out of touch most of yesterday, I thought the fee was undisclosed?
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