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Post by camstoke10 on Jun 22, 2018 20:05:11 GMT
Surely his relegation clause isn’t as low as stated? Like clubs like Everton would have been interested but really there has been no one interested and it could all just be paper talk? Because wasn’t it stated Badou was 15m but it’s higher than that apparently
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 22, 2018 20:09:29 GMT
Surely his relegation clause isn’t as low as stated? Like clubs like Everton would have been interested but really there has been no one interested and it could all just be paper talk? Because wasn’t it stated Badou was 15m but it’s higher than that apparently He's worth one Ross McCormack apparently.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:11:44 GMT
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Post by camstoke10 on Jun 22, 2018 20:11:44 GMT
Imo Im not sure if the clause is true but not that low I think it’s bs, clubs would have been 100% in for him by now, why would he need to state he’s leaving when he has a clause that low imo it wouldn’t be needed
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 20:12:28 GMT
It's not his release Claus that is the problem. It will be his wage demands!
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Jun 22, 2018 20:13:13 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jun 22, 2018 20:13:13 GMT
Surely his relegation clause isn’t as low as stated? Like clubs like Everton would have been interested but really there has been no one interested and it could all just be paper talk? Because wasn’t it stated Badou was 15m but it’s higher than that apparently He's worth one Ross McCormack apparently. Or one Palacios and one Whitehead. H
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Jun 22, 2018 20:14:37 GMT
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jun 22, 2018 20:14:37 GMT
He's worth one Ross McCormack apparently. Or one Palacios and one Whitehead. H Or 2/3rds of Imbula or Wimmer.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:20:53 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Jun 22, 2018 20:20:53 GMT
Or one Palacios and one Whitehead. H Or 2/3rds of Imbula or Wimmer. Snodgrass apparently is the same value
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Jun 22, 2018 20:26:56 GMT
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Post by fulagoals on Jun 22, 2018 20:26:56 GMT
Or 2/3rds of Imbula or Wimmer. Snodgrass apparently is the same value Better player, that’s why.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:27:21 GMT
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Post by andystokey on Jun 22, 2018 20:27:21 GMT
Or one Palacios and one Whitehead. H Or 2/3rds of Imbula or Wimmer. lb for lb probably right
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 22, 2018 20:28:13 GMT
Snodgrass apparently is the same value Better player, that’s why.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 22, 2018 20:28:37 GMT
Two things
1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up
2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much!
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Jun 22, 2018 20:31:49 GMT
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Post by stokecitytalke on Jun 22, 2018 20:31:49 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up 2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much! Point 1: if he has a release clause then that will be the price he goes for, even if there are 20 teams in for him.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:32:57 GMT
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Post by numfar on Jun 22, 2018 20:32:57 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up Nothing he does will drive his price up. Why would you bid more than a value we HAVE to accept? The only thing his performances will improve is his signing on fee and wages.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:33:05 GMT
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Post by RAF on Jun 22, 2018 20:33:05 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up 2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much! You know the price can't be driven up because he has a release clause right? H
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Post by superheroantonius on Jun 22, 2018 20:35:40 GMT
The real issue re Shaq ( since Arnie left ) is ...
1) he plays much more centrally for Switzerland than stoke 2) the entire Swiss team ( especially midfield ) is set up to look for him at every opportunity, and play him in at every opportunity 3) the Swiss basically recognise ' he shows glimpses of real quality he and there ' and accept he has ' christiano Ronaldo moments ' rather than playing like christiano Ronaldo . 4 ) in essence the Swiss basically make the best of a brilliant but inconsistent talent
Which raises the question ... Why don't stoke do the same ?
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Jun 22, 2018 20:36:07 GMT
Post by PotterLog on Jun 22, 2018 20:36:07 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up 2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much! You know the price can't be driven up because he has a release clause right? H In a bidding war it could in theory, that's what he's saying
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Jun 22, 2018 20:37:30 GMT
Post by ursemboys on Jun 22, 2018 20:37:30 GMT
am I missing something ,I thought the release price was the price he could go for if only one club came in for him (the bidding starts at this price),shorley if another club came in and offered more then the price would go up and so on until stoke agree to sell to that club .
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Post by swampmongrel on Jun 22, 2018 20:44:03 GMT
am I missing something ,I thought the release price was the price he could go for if only one club came in for him (the bidding starts at this price),shorley if another club came in and offered more then the price would go up and so on until stoke agree to sell to that club . Shaqiri could choose to go to any club which meets the release clause value. Therefore, there would be no point in competing clubs offering us more because we are obliged to sell him at a fixed price to whichever club he wants to join. As stated earlier, any bidding war would benefit Shaq (wages and or signing on fee) and, sadly, not us.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:44:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2018 20:44:45 GMT
am I missing something ,I thought the release price was the price he could go for if only one club came in for him (the bidding starts at this price),shorley if another club came in and offered more then the price would go up and so on until stoke agree to sell to that club . Why would another club offer more than his release clause?
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Jun 22, 2018 20:45:33 GMT
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Post by numfar on Jun 22, 2018 20:45:33 GMT
There won't be a bidding war. He has a relegation release fee so he won't go for a penny more. Five clubs could bid the rumoured £12m and we would have to accept all five offers and then let Shaq decide.
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Jun 22, 2018 20:52:12 GMT
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Post by entropy92 on Jun 22, 2018 20:52:12 GMT
There won't be a bidding war. He has a relegation release fee so he won't go for a penny more. Five clubs could bid the rumoured £12m and we would have to accept all five offers and then let Shaq decide. Correct, we are getting shafted no matter how many clubs want him.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 22, 2018 20:54:46 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up 2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much! You know the price can't be driven up because he has a release clause right? H Whoops! Ah well. Still point 2 stands. Small mercies 🙂
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Post by robinplumpton on Jun 22, 2018 20:59:17 GMT
There won't be a bidding war. He has a relegation release fee so he won't go for a penny more. Five clubs could bid the rumoured £12m and we would have to accept all five offers and then let Shaq decide. Correct, we are getting shafted no matter how many clubs want him. What we need is someone at another club to make a ridiculous decision to pay way over the odds for a player when it is totally unnecessary to do so.........come on Sparky, you know it makes sense, we know you can do it😀
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 22, 2018 20:59:34 GMT
You know the price can't be driven up because he has a release clause right? H In a bidding war it could in theory, that's what he's saying Can it? Suppose Huddersfield and Brighton both bid £12,000,000 for him, and he had a £12,000,000 release clause. We would have to accept both bids and allow Shaqiri to talk to both teams. If Huddersfield were willing to offer him £50,000 a week and Brighton were only willing to offer him £25,000, Brighton wouldn't just be able to increase their bid to £15,000,000 in order to get first dibs. No matter how much Brighton offer, the Shaqiri could talk to anybody who met that minimum release clause, so there's no advantage in making a bid beyond the release clause.
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Post by liamo on Jun 22, 2018 21:02:06 GMT
I mean i don't see that we're getting shafted, he'd have never come here without some kind of clause in his contract and if we get what we paid for him he's still been a Stoke player... he is an enigma but the bangers have been worth it
As fans football is an experience, the people in charge worry about finances, we just want to be entertained and i think Shaq has given us value for money and then some
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Jun 22, 2018 21:04:33 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 22, 2018 21:04:33 GMT
Has a famous sister shaqiri Khan , who sang I feel for you in 1984 , talented family
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Jun 22, 2018 21:11:10 GMT
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 22, 2018 21:11:10 GMT
Has a famous sister shaqiri Khan , who sang I feel for you in 1984 , talented family That's just bad.
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Jun 22, 2018 21:12:10 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 22, 2018 21:12:10 GMT
Has a famous sister shaqiri Khan , who sang I feel for you in 1984 , talented family That's just bad. 😇
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Jun 22, 2018 21:12:12 GMT
Post by tqstokie on Jun 22, 2018 21:12:12 GMT
Football players are not commodities like sacks of potatoes(make your own jokes) and can't be offloaded at the drop of a hat. The player is always in control of his own destiny he does not have to go to the highest bidder. He goes where he chooses for the money he wants if they are prepared to meet his demands.
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Post by andystokey on Jun 22, 2018 21:14:13 GMT
The real issue re Shaq ( since Arnie left ) is ... 1) he plays much more centrally for Switzerland than stoke 2) the entire Swiss team ( especially midfield ) is set up to look for him at every opportunity, and play him in at every opportunity 3) the Swiss basically recognise ' he shows glimpses of real quality he and there ' and accept he has ' christiano Ronaldo moments ' rather than playing like christiano Ronaldo . 4 ) in essence the Swiss basically make the best of a brilliant but inconsistent talent Which raises the question ... Why don't stoke do the same ? The only real issue is.. How come Tony Scholes is still in a job
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