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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 8:39:11 GMT
That is simply not true, 5 teams could activate his release clause then it would be up to him to decide where he goes. Did you draft his contract? It’s pretty basic knowledge of how every release clause works.
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Shaq
Jun 23, 2018 8:40:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 8:40:15 GMT
Did you draft his contract? It’s pretty basic knowledge of how every release clause works. Wow, you drafted every players contract ever who had a release clause. Good work.
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Post by numpty40 on Jun 23, 2018 8:41:17 GMT
Because many neither recognise or appreciate good players. I remember similar criticism that Shaq gets being said about Arnautovic when he was here. Arnie is a far better player than shaqiri. He carried our team in a way shaqiri couldn't or wouldn't. I think Shaq pretty much carried us this last season, without him we'd have been relegated far earlier than we were.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 23, 2018 8:44:50 GMT
Arnie is a far better player than shaqiri. He carried our team in a way shaqiri couldn't or wouldn't. I think Shaq pretty much carried us this last season, without him we'd have been relegated far earlier than we were. I disagree. He did some good things but invariably he just downed tools after that. Almost like "I've done my bit, over to you lot now". Undoubtedly a good player but one I've found impossible to warm to. Multiple release clauses in his contract always suggested to me that he was only here because no one else wanted him
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Shaq
Jun 23, 2018 8:46:25 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 8:46:25 GMT
It’s pretty basic knowledge of how every release clause works. Wow, you drafted every players contract ever who had a release clause. Good work. It’s common knowledge that’s how it works, you’re obviously struggling with it though.
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Jun 23, 2018 8:48:44 GMT
Post by nutterpotter on Jun 23, 2018 8:48:44 GMT
It’s pretty basic knowledge of how every release clause works. Wow, you drafted every players contract ever who had a release clause. Good work. It is reasonable to expect Shaq's release clause in his contract to have exactly the same terms as any other player who's had a release clause in his contract. A release clause is exactly what it sounds like. The selling club effectively has no control (ie, has to release the player) once the release clause is met.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 23, 2018 8:49:10 GMT
That is simply not true, 5 teams could activate his release clause then it would be up to him to decide where he goes. Did you draft his contract? No. That was the work of a special kind of idiot.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 23, 2018 8:52:31 GMT
Did you draft his contract? No. That was the work of a special kind of idiot. I've spent far too much time on this forum. I read that comment, laughed to myself and thought "momo will jump on that". Saw your post and chuckled like a school kid
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 23, 2018 8:53:39 GMT
I think Shaq pretty much carried us this last season, without him we'd have been relegated far earlier than we were. I disagree. He did some good things but invariably he just downed tools after that. Almost like "I've done my bit, over to you lot now". Undoubtedly a good player but one I've found impossible to warm to. Multiple release clauses in his contract always suggested to me that he was only here because no one else wanted him I agree Stoke are nothing to him in the wider scheme of things, dave but I thought he showed more professional pride last season than quite a few and relegation certainly seemd to hurt him. I mean he's no Jese type charlatan is he?
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Jun 23, 2018 8:55:07 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 23, 2018 8:55:07 GMT
I disagree. He did some good things but invariably he just downed tools after that. Almost like "I've done my bit, over to you lot now". Undoubtedly a good player but one I've found impossible to warm to. Multiple release clauses in his contract always suggested to me that he was only here because no one else wanted him I agree Stoke are nothing to him in the wider scheme of things, dave but I thought he showed more professional pride last season than quite a few and relegation certainly seemd to hurt him. I mean he's no Jese type charlatan is he? Absolutely he isn't.
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Jun 23, 2018 8:57:19 GMT
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Jun 23, 2018 8:57:19 GMT
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Jun 23, 2018 9:10:43 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 23, 2018 9:10:43 GMT
Me neither particularly but I’ll still be interested in seeing what type of club will take a chance on him now after successive failures at Bayern, Inter, and now Stoke. Has he fuck failed at Stoke. Individually you could argue possibly not but overall, as a team, we have steadily declined since he arrived and that’s beyond question.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:17:00 GMT
Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 23, 2018 9:17:00 GMT
Has he fuck failed at Stoke. Individually you could argue possibly not but overall, as a team, we have steadily declined since he arrived and that’s beyond question. Alternatively you could argue the failure to recruit players of a similar quality, since he's been here, led to the decline. In fact there's no argument there just relegation facts!
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Jun 23, 2018 9:23:05 GMT
Post by dadofsam on Jun 23, 2018 9:23:05 GMT
One lazy fucker though.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:28:39 GMT
Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jun 23, 2018 9:28:39 GMT
Lets hope there are a few interested parties now and it adds a few more quid to his selling price. He is definitely going so the better he plays hopefully someone will add a few million to get him.. Scholes release price is indicative of how inept he really is.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:30:41 GMT
Post by steinosjockstrap on Jun 23, 2018 9:30:41 GMT
Personally,I hope he does end up at Liverpool,just so it really annoys Arnie,and don't say it wont,cause it will. Shaq would at least have the Champions League footie Arnie was always on about.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:34:44 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 23, 2018 9:34:44 GMT
Individually you could argue possibly not but overall, as a team, we have steadily declined since he arrived and that’s beyond question. Alternatively you could argue the failure to recruit players of a similar quality, since he's been here, led to the decline. In fact there's no argument there just relegation facts! I suppose the type of club he goes to will determine how his last three years have been perceived. By your reckoning the big clubs will be queuing up for him, by mine he’ll be lucky if he ends up at Southampton.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:46:25 GMT
Post by tony1234 on Jun 23, 2018 9:46:25 GMT
Mainly because they wouldn't recognise one if they had one right in front of them. Some daft fuckers have more affection for Lee bastard Hendrie than Shaqiri. Shaq is undoubtedly a fine player but the key bit is "he's a fine player WHEN HE WANTS TO BE". It's a real shame. When you read the story of his upbringing you'd expect better of him really. ....Or when the rest of his team mates manage to get him the ball.
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Jun 23, 2018 9:48:28 GMT
Post by tony1234 on Jun 23, 2018 9:48:28 GMT
Lets hope there are a few interested parties now and it adds a few more quid to his selling price. He is definitely going so the better he plays hopefully someone will add a few million to get him.. Scholes release price is indicative of how inept he really is. Is this true, or is it just that more clubs will bid 12m (or whatever it is) and then Shaq will have more options?
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Jun 23, 2018 9:52:33 GMT
Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jun 23, 2018 9:52:33 GMT
Lets hope there are a few interested parties now and it adds a few more quid to his selling price. He is definitely going so the better he plays hopefully someone will add a few million to get him.. Scholes release price is indicative of how inept he really is. Is this true, or is it just that more clubs will bid 12m (or whatever it is) and then Shaq will have more options? What you say is probably true..but if i was an interested party adding a couple of mill may just get me first dibs...and Stoke should exploit it and give their "permission to negotiate" accordingly...
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2018 9:54:10 GMT
Is this true, or is it just that more clubs will bid 12m (or whatever it is) and then Shaq will have more options? What you say is probably true..but if i was an interested party adding a couple of mill may just get me first dibs...and Stoke should exploit it and give their "permission to negotiate" accordingly... Amazed how many people don't understand how a release of works.
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Jun 23, 2018 10:10:55 GMT
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Post by Menorca Stokie on Jun 23, 2018 10:10:55 GMT
Two things 1) he is worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for him. Let's hope he has a great World Cup so a few teams compete to sign him and drive the price up 2) he is still a Stokie. Let's enjoy the moment one of our players scores in the World Cup. It ain't something that happens very much! Point 1: if he has a release clause then that will be the price he goes for, even if there are 20 teams in for him. Why, the release clause will be the lowest amount we would achieve for him. If several clubs are interested they will outbid each other. For sure, Shiq is in a very strong position.
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Post by lordb on Jun 23, 2018 10:12:37 GMT
Point 1: if he has a release clause then that will be the price he goes for, even if there are 20 teams in for him. Why, the release clause will be the lowest amount we would achieve for him. If several clubs are interested they will outbid each other. For sure, Shiq is in a very strong position. They will outbid each other in how much they will offer the player. Stoke will not get a penny more than the release clause.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jun 23, 2018 10:15:41 GMT
Point 1: if he has a release clause then that will be the price he goes for, even if there are 20 teams in for him. Why, the release clause will be the lowest amount we would achieve for him. If several clubs are interested they will outbid each other. For sure, Shiq is in a very strong position. NO. NO. NO. If a club bids the amount specified by the release clause in the contract, we HAVE to accept. Why would a club bid more than the release clause? Bidding more would achieve absolutely nothing. The buying club would gain no advantage whatsoever. At the end of the day, the final decision would be down to Shaq, not us.
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Jun 23, 2018 10:21:43 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jun 23, 2018 10:21:43 GMT
Shaq is undoubtedly a fine player but the key bit is "he's a fine player WHEN HE WANTS TO BE". It's a real shame. When you read the story of his upbringing you'd expect better of him really. ....Or when the rest of his team mates manage to get him the ball. Indeed. Its always someone elses fault. Ronaldhino would have struggled to exert influence over last seasons team
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 23, 2018 10:32:48 GMT
Why, the release clause will be the lowest amount we would achieve for him. If several clubs are interested they will outbid each other. For sure, Shiq is in a very strong position. They will outbid each other in how much they will offer the player. Stoke will not get a penny more than the release clause. It's hard bloody work isn't it mate
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Post by werrington on Jun 23, 2018 10:33:30 GMT
Look if we hadn’t got the fucking RELEGATION release clause inserted he wouldn’t of signed in the first place as he must of insisted it was put in place
If we’d survived his price would be double/triple what is being quoted
WTF is it people are struggling to grasp
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Jun 23, 2018 10:36:01 GMT
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Jun 23, 2018 10:36:01 GMT
Why, the release clause will be the lowest amount we would achieve for him. If several clubs are interested they will outbid each other. For sure, Shiq is in a very strong position. NO. NO. NO. If a club bids the amount specified by the release clause in the contract, we HAVE to accept. Why would a club bid more than the release clause? Bidding more would achieve absolutely nothing. The buying club would gain no advantage whatsoever. At the end of the day, the final decision would be down to Shaq, not us. Exit amount to Stoke Big signing on fee and wage/commission to player and agent The way of the World and Stoke have done nothing wrong here
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Jun 23, 2018 10:37:11 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 23, 2018 10:37:11 GMT
Is this true, or is it just that more clubs will bid 12m (or whatever it is) and then Shaq will have more options? What you say is probably true..but if i was an interested party adding a couple of mill may just get me first dibs...and Stoke should exploit it and give their "permission to negotiate" accordingly... We don't get to decide who has "permission to negotiate". If the amount within his release clause is met by ANY club then we HAVE to let him talk to them if he wants to. That's kinda the point of the clause! It's a clause that says that ANY club who bids the amount can speak to the player, not that we get to decide which ones he speaks to. Who he talks to is ENTIRELY down to the player as soon as they bid the amount that triggers the clause. If 5 clubs want him, they will ALL bid whatever triggers the release clause, we then HAVE to allow any or all of them speak to him. Him and his agent will then decide which club will offer HIM (not us) the best terms. There will no bidding war whatsoever in terms of his selling price, only one in terms of his personal terms which won't effect us anyway.
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Jun 23, 2018 10:38:10 GMT
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Jun 23, 2018 10:38:10 GMT
Look if we hadn’t got the fucking RELEGATION release clause inserted he wouldn’t of signed in the first place as he must of insisted it was put in place If we’d survived his price would be double/triple what is being quoted WTF is it people are struggling to grasp What they're struggling to grasp is that, and also how a release clause works it appears Wezza
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