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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2018 11:54:07 GMT
He played for us, his surname is our nickname, he's been outrageously successful with a tiny club and he seems like a decent chap. What's not to like? Potter for the Potters, one day it must happen. I'm a little disappointed it hasn't happened this time but Rowett would've probably been my second choice. We should change our name to Stoke Rowdies. Rowett Of The Rowdies.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2018 14:49:28 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 2, 2018 14:54:23 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter..
Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 14:55:05 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jun 2, 2018 14:56:59 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there Not to mention Leeds (potentially!)
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Post by nonameface on Jun 2, 2018 14:59:26 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Yeah I'd tend to agree with you. The good thing about Rowett is he does have a decent knowledge of the league and has definitely produced teams that are greater than the sum of their parts. Potter could be under pressure if results don't go his way because he doesn't have any results in the championship to back up his man management.
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Post by march4 on Jun 2, 2018 15:01:08 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Why?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 15:03:13 GMT
I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Why? It'd be more risky, but an up and comer who plays great football, took a team from pub level to Europa league and has a very different view of coaching to the norm. It'd be a great adventure, and he's the type of manager we could keep for years and years. Rowett is a very shrewd piece of business, but i can't see him staying more than 3 years.
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Post by pyrus on Jun 2, 2018 15:14:51 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I think Potter is the biggest gamble. He has done a very different type of job at Ostersund - he sort of reinvented coaching and management and took everyone with him. I doubt he is going to get the opportunity to make such fundamental changes at Swansea. Granted, he showed he is no fool in the European games, but I wonder how he will manage being somewhere in the pecking order rather than on top of it. Lampard’s appointment is a media fairytale. But based on most/all previous ‘star goes into management’ stories, it has hero to zero written all over it While I am worried that Rowett might come out proving that Championship is his natural level, he looks like the best bet to me.
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Post by riproaringagain on Jun 2, 2018 15:19:13 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Potter could be anything no uk management experience no top level league experience, might be great might a total car crash
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 15:22:15 GMT
I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Potter could be anything no uk management experience no top level league experience, might be great might a total car crash He's taken a pub team to Europe, I can't see him being a car crash. I'd be most excited with him because he'd have the most potential of them all for the lower risk. I can't see Rowett taking us to a top 10 team, but with Potter i think his style of play would have a chance of doing that long-term. Rowett is the safest, and probably best, appointment, but Potter would be the most exciting.
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Post by riproaringagain on Jun 2, 2018 15:31:10 GMT
Potter could be anything no uk management experience no top level league experience, might be great might a total car crash He's taken a pub team to Europe, I can't see him being a car crash. I'd be most excited with him because he'd have the most potential of them all for the lower risk. I can't see Rowett taking us to a top 10 team, but with Potter i think his style of play would have a chance of doing that long-term. Rowett is the safest, and probably best, appointment, but Potter would be the most exciting. I agree the safest appointment Rowett, if potter takes swans up and does well he will be long gone way before they are anyway near top 10
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 2, 2018 16:49:01 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I think Potter is the biggest gamble. He has done a very different type of job at Ostersund - he sort of reinvented coaching and management and took everyone with him. I doubt he is going to get the opportunity to make such fundamental changes at Swansea. Granted, he showed he is no fool in the European games, but I wonder how he will manage being somewhere in the pecking order rather than on top of it. Lampard’s appointment is a media fairytale. But based on most/all previous ‘star goes into management’ stories, it has hero to zero written all over it While I am worried that Rowett might come out proving that Championship is his natural level, he looks like the best bet to me. Surely Lampard is the biggest gamble
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Post by andystokey on Jun 2, 2018 17:00:40 GMT
They are all so different
Potter will create a culture in the club and community. Little or no track record in the Championship.
Lampard will be all about the buzz and who he might attract. No record anywhere.
Rowett full track record in the Championship getting better every year.
The head is with Rowett. The heart somewhere else, possibly a broken one.
I think we chose right.
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Post by walrus on Jun 2, 2018 17:15:17 GMT
When we sacked Hughes I was all for Potter. We were up shit creek and had nothing to lose. But the time to gamble is past. The Championship is a tough, tough league, and I’m much more comfortable with somebody experienced in it at the helm.
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Post by ravey123 on Jun 2, 2018 18:00:18 GMT
When we sacked Hughes I was all for Potter. We were up shit creek and had nothing to lose. But the time to gamble is past. The Championship is a tough, tough league, and I’m much more comfortable with somebody experienced in it at the helm. I was and still am all for Potter but that ship has now sailed. Time will tell but I have a feeling he will do better at Swansea than Rowett does at Stoke. Can't prove it with anything other than a gut feeling - there is something about how his methods that I think will work well in The English Leagues. One thing for sure he couldnt have joined a more similar club to Stoke so we will see what could have been - relegated together, probably similar budgets and even same initials.
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Post by callas12 on Jun 2, 2018 19:12:22 GMT
I can see Graham Potter to Swansea will be what Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was to Cardiff. Being a successful manager in the Nordic league doesn't guarantee success in the English League.. Solskjar went from a 55% win rate at Molde to 30% with Cardiff then back to 53% back at Molde.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jun 2, 2018 19:17:53 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Really???
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 19:54:07 GMT
People excited over someone whose managed at a level equivalent to non league. We missed the boat there...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 20:06:12 GMT
I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. Really??? yeah as explained above. Don't know if it's the best appointment but it's the most exciting of the 3
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Post by callas12 on Jun 2, 2018 20:09:22 GMT
I can see Graham Potter to Swansea will be what Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was to Cardiff. Being a successful manager in the Nordic league doesn't guarantee success in the English League.. Solskjar went from a 55% win rate at Molde to 30% with Cardiff then back to 53% back at Molde. Good job he manages in Sweden then really... Doh.. Think you need to research what Nordic means Gifton!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 20:12:39 GMT
Its alright creating the culture he did with a bunch of low paid no mark footballers.
His techniques at this level simply won't work. Failure written all over it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 2, 2018 20:14:05 GMT
Rowett over Potter without a shadow of a doubt. Lampard could be anything so as of today I think we have the best of it. Be quite a coup for Leeds if they pull that off though.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 2, 2018 20:25:38 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there Not to mention Leeds (potentially!) Would love to have him as manager
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Post by smallthorner on Jun 2, 2018 20:33:35 GMT
They are all so different Potter will create a culture in the club and community. Little or no track record in the Championship. Lampard will be all about the buzz and who he might attract. No record anywhere. Rowett full track record in the Championship getting better every year. The head is with Rowett. The heart somewhere else, possibly a broken one. I think we chose right. Good summary. Personally think that a Lampard appointment at Stoke would have given everyone a serious feel good factor and generated a massive positive surge. Reckon that under Rowett we are going to be in for a no frills, no crap, functional season that has got a 50-50 chance of delivering the goods. None of us have got a clue really.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jun 2, 2018 23:38:09 GMT
Potter could be anything no uk management experience no top level league experience, might be great might a total car crash He's taken a pub team to Europe, I can't see him being a car crash. I'd be most excited with him because he'd have the most potential of them all for the lower risk. I can't see Rowett taking us to a top 10 team, but with Potter i think his style of play would have a chance of doing that long-term. Rowett is the safest, and probably best, appointment, but Potter would be the most exciting. I think with Potter it's all about the man management and milieu he creates,if you look at other notable great man-managers say Clough for example,it can be a case of the planets aligning: phenomenal achievements at Derby and Forest where he was a fantastic 'fit' disastrous at Leeds and Brighton. Holloway is a more recent example I can think of who possessed an atypical management style,but despite achieving great things with Blackpool he's been desperately mediocre elsewhere? Potter's methods may work wonders as part of an all-encompassing project,where the club,players,fans,(even the town itself,)grow together,with earnest,humble players,open to new ways of working,who reciprocate in kind because of the opportunity to play at a level that would never have conceived of previously,but I'm not so sure they'll work with some of the Gucci wash bag wielding,big-time Charlies accustomed to life in the rarefied atmosphere of the Premier League. I'm not sure he'll get the time for his methods to work if they don't start the campaign well,given the amount of unrest there.Definitely an intriguing experiment. I wish him well.(well second place,behind us.)
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Post by hanibal7 on Jun 2, 2018 23:43:25 GMT
When we sacked Hughes I was all for Potter. We were up shit creek and had nothing to lose. But the time to gamble is past. The Championship is a tough, tough league, and I’m much more comfortable with somebody experienced in it at the helm. Nothing to lose????, really,,,,
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Post by GoBoks on Jun 2, 2018 23:56:54 GMT
When we sacked Hughes I was all for Potter. We were up shit creek and had nothing to lose. But the time to gamble is past. The Championship is a tough, tough league, and I’m much more comfortable with somebody experienced in it at the helm. I was and still am all for Potter but that ship has now sailed. Time will tell but I have a feeling he will do better at Swansea than Rowett does at Stoke. Can't prove it with anything other than a gut feeling - there is something about how his methods that I think will work well in The English Leagues. One thing for sure he couldnt have joined a more similar club to Stoke so we will see what could have been - relegated together, probably similar budgets and even same initials. But you can prove it in a year’s time!
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 3, 2018 0:28:03 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there If you'd offered me those three a few weeks ago, I'd have gone head over heart and gone for Rowett, so I'm happy. Bielsa, on the other hand...
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Post by magwitch on Jun 3, 2018 4:28:13 GMT
So we got Rowett, Derby got Lampard and Swans are getting Potter.. Hard to work out who’s getting the best deal there I'd be most excited with Potter out of those. I was in favour of Potter in January when I thought Rowett had committed to Derby. Both are up and coming managers and I would expect Rowett will do well at Stoke. However Potter promises to be a manager the like of which has never been seen in the English League. I shall watch Swamsea with considerable interest. Depending on player recruitement, I can see him near the top of the Championship next season or the season afterwards.
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