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Post by beechwood14 on Mar 18, 2018 12:03:43 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Mar 18, 2018 12:06:48 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him
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Post by huuuuuth on Mar 18, 2018 12:11:01 GMT
Poor yesterday. How old is he? 20? 21? There was one instance in the first half where he knocked the ball past 35 year old Phil Jagielka and lost out in the subsequent foot race
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 18, 2018 12:26:18 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him We all see games differently, I suppose. I thought he had a decent (even goodish) first half. He certainly faded in the second half - but that isn't very surprising as apart from one game at U23 level he's hardly played a game since Lambert arrived.
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Post by loosestools on Mar 18, 2018 12:28:49 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him We all see games differently, I suppose. I thought he had a decent (even goodish) first half. He certainly faded in the second half - but that isn't very surprising as apart from one game at U23 level he's hardly played a game since Lambert arrived. My sentiments entirely.
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Post by tqstokie on Mar 18, 2018 12:35:57 GMT
He certainly contributed more than Charlie. People on here have used the conditions as an excuse for Charlie. The same should apply to Ramadan. The conditions were probably something he has not seen or played in very often.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 18, 2018 12:39:13 GMT
He certainly contributed more than Charlie. People on here have used the conditions as an excuse for Charlie. The same should apply to Ramadan. The conditions were probably something he has not seen or played in very often. You are surely not suggesting that conditions in SOT yesterday were much different to a typical day in Cairo!
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Post by nott1 on Mar 18, 2018 12:44:06 GMT
He's better than most of the others, I don't understand the negativity. He just needs to be fully match fit with games, the talent is there!
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Post by shrewspotter on Mar 18, 2018 12:46:31 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him We all see games differently, I suppose. I thought he had a decent (even goodish) first half. He certainly faded in the second half - but that isn't very surprising as apart from one game at U23 level he's hardly played a game since Lambert arrived. thats how I saw it too, 1 things for sure he did more than moting or Jesé in previous weeks Also we are not exactly flush with attacking options
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Mar 18, 2018 12:46:44 GMT
He's very slow, doesn't shoot and doesn't deliver a particularly good cross. Having said that, he's no worse than any other option down the left, barring Choupo's goal.
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Post by mickey4137 on Mar 18, 2018 12:49:16 GMT
Thought he was pretty terrible yesterday. He has zero pace to beat a man and his first touch lets him down over and over again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 13:32:32 GMT
As I’ve said for months but got ridiculed. He’s wank. If we can get him sold to Barnet then do so. I’ve seen milk turn quicker
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2018 14:13:22 GMT
its all quiet in egypt ramahdan had his big chance yesterday and blew it big time failed in all aspects of what is expected of him no energy or determination to beat an opponent created nothing very poor performance from him We all see games differently, I suppose. I thought he had a decent (even goodish) first half. He certainly faded in the second half - but that isn't very surprising as apart from one game at U23 level he's hardly played a game since Lambert arrived. He has no pace,and lacks the ability to take on and get round his man.He hasn't the confidence or ability to shoot when in a shooting position,and his decision making and distribution is awful. I can see why he hasn't played.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2018 14:15:55 GMT
Thought he was pretty terrible yesterday. He has zero pace to beat a man and his first touch lets him down over and over again. Lambert quote "He has lightening pace " is baffling.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Mar 18, 2018 14:26:00 GMT
I thought that he did ok.
He worked hard and was always a outlet that helped to relieve the pressure.
People seem to be forgetting that we were down to 10 men and the only person he had in front of him was an immobile Peter Crouch.
There's certainly plenty of talent in there and he's actually popped up with some crucial goals this season. The fact that he hasn't been used more often is difficult to comprehend.
He may not be the finished product but he was certainly no worse than anybody else out there.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Mar 18, 2018 14:27:35 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Mar 18, 2018 14:30:28 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. And as we all know, you know everything
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 18, 2018 14:33:09 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. A very insightful analysis of the player's qualities there. Thanks for that! we all understand what we've been missing now!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 14:33:49 GMT
Poor yesterday. How old is he? 20? 21? There was one instance in the first half where he knocked the ball past 35 year old Phil Jagielka and lost out in the subsequent foot race He didn't. He was half a yard in front and got pushed in the back...just another thing the officials missed.
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Post by potterspele on Mar 18, 2018 14:34:34 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. This coming from the man who compared him to a young Neymar? I would suggest you need a reality check. He was crap yesterday, had a decent 20 minutes then pretty much lost the ball every time he received it thereafter. He may make a half decent player given this is good experience for a player his age but currently he's not good enough to start games and we were worse off with him in the side. Granted it's tough to judge him when we were down to 10 for so long but whenever he's been given chances he hasn't put in a good enough performance to retain his place.
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Post by iplayinthehole on Mar 18, 2018 14:35:01 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. Being honest and not over dramatic, I just saw a 21 year old with absolutely no pace, who created no decent chances all game (and was given the ball a reasonable amount) and had abject decision making going forwards (shooting or passing). He also looked like he had no real engine, which is very concerning for that age (even with Hughes' feet up style of fitness training). If he was 'Raymond Shuttleworth', no one would probably even want to see him play again after that, being perfectly honest.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 18, 2018 15:00:42 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. No pace, weak at crossing, positionally unaware and poor decisions making equates to pretty terrible in my book.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Mar 18, 2018 15:12:05 GMT
I don't think I've ever read such a load of unwarranted negative bollocks on here before! After Adam put the three points on a plate for Everton, people think it's OK to attack a promising young player! Sometimes I think we deserve to go down and hopefully we'll get rid of these dickheads.
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Post by vahl on Mar 18, 2018 15:13:55 GMT
I remember he had a 1v1 sprint race with Jagielka (35 year old, never been known for pace) and got beat. That is some real pace that is.
That said, he has all the makings of another Salah. He will probably go abroad and smash it, come back to England and be World Class. Just because its us.
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Post by mattythestokie on Mar 18, 2018 15:17:29 GMT
People who say he's terrible really know fuck all about football. He’s pretty average I think. And I don’t see an area to his game where he’s going to excel in either to take him to the next level.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 15:20:48 GMT
I thought he looked one of the better players yesterday
When I saw moting coming on I was a little sad As I wanted Jese to replace crouch Absolutely gutted when I saw him replace Ramadan
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Mar 18, 2018 15:24:51 GMT
He couldn't replace Crouch as he was having such an influence on the game????????
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Post by thegift on Mar 18, 2018 15:26:01 GMT
He made one stupid error when not passing the ball to shaqiri in the second half, carried on running with it and lost it. That annoyed me. Apart form that, did ok, not the worst by any means
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2018 15:45:25 GMT
I would contend this lads lack of game time in the last 18 months is as inexplicably bonkers as much as some of the complete and wasters and liabilities getting game time before him. I would go as far as saying, the reason we're in the mess we are in right now is precisely because of some now typically blinkered Stoke City, over hasty opinion about this lad. And to those who dont rate him Id say this. You are just not watching the same player Im watched arrive- at all. I would concede though, all the talent and confidence I could see early days, is being slowly but surely coached out of him and, he probably right now deserves to be at better football club than the rubbish one we follow nowadays.
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Post by pottersrule on Mar 18, 2018 16:45:38 GMT
He made one stupid error when not passing the ball to shaqiri in the second half, carried on running with it and lost it. That annoyed me. Apart form that, did ok, not the worst by any means He was awful mate.Blame the coaches for not giving him game time and destroying his confidence, but yesterday he was abject.He is an empty husk of a player to the one we signed,almost like all his good attributes have been coached out of him. This club has got a lot to answer for in my opinion.
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