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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:13:40 GMT
Please.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 13, 2018 14:18:05 GMT
Do think he needs replacing but don't see this as his fault. It appears QSF agreed all the terms then changed his mind as the paperwork was being prepared. Totally down to QSF this one.
That said don't rate Scholes
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2018 14:20:16 GMT
Never his fault.
He needs replacing it's happened to many times with players. We need someone charismatic who can sell the club better.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:20:19 GMT
If Scholes organised a free piss up,everyone would go home sober.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:20:47 GMT
Do think he needs replacing but don't see this as his fault. It appears QSF agreed all the terms then changed his mind as the paperwork was being prepared. Totally down to QSF this one. That said don't rate Scholes How many does that happen though? It's not a one off. We can't close deals when everything is agreed. That's an issue. |
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Post by harrysburrow on Jan 13, 2018 14:21:44 GMT
Ironically, this probably wasn't his fuck up for a change mate? Think we've just given another manager leverage to acquire a better deal at their present club?
Scholes still needs to go though, before he signs a couple more donkeys prior to the Huddersfield game? Our cup runneth over.
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Post by doitforfrank on Jan 13, 2018 14:22:15 GMT
Got to go, as has Cartwright. They both know the square root of f all when it comes to football.
The amount of times we have been publicly humiliated by prospective managers and players is nothing short of embarrassing
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2018 14:22:19 GMT
It might be as simple as him changing his mind, and let's be honest, you can't change what you can't change. It's also best if he didn't come if his heart wasn't in it.
However, far far too much of this kind of nonsense happens on his watch.
I agree, time to go.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 13, 2018 14:23:44 GMT
Do think he needs replacing but don't see this as his fault. It appears QSF agreed all the terms then changed his mind as the paperwork was being prepared. Totally down to QSF this one. That said don't rate Scholes How many does that happen though? It's not a one off. We can't close deals when everything is agreed. That's an issue. Agree that paperwork should have been done and dusted once participants shake hands. No attempt by me to defend Scholes |
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 13, 2018 14:24:05 GMT
Momo been right all along shocker.. ;-)
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:25:35 GMT
Ironically, this probably wasn't his fuck up for a change mate? Think we've just given another manager leverage to acquire a better deal at their present club? Scholes still needs to go though, before he signs a couple more donkeys prior to the Huddersfield game? Our cup runneth over. Ah like Gary Rowett then....... 😂 It's happened with players too. He's naive at best. Totally incompetent at worst. |
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Post by professorplump on Jan 13, 2018 14:27:47 GMT
I'm no fan of Scholes either and would be happy for him to go but we are jumping to conclusions in blaming him for QSF.
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Post by ethers26 on Jan 13, 2018 14:30:20 GMT
Doesn't matter if QSF had given the club lip service last night. It happens all the time.
There were enough pain points for Scholes to get him over the line. And it hasn't happened.
He's a fucking shambles and this proves it more than any other deal.
Before anyone comes back at me, we're a stable club in the Premier League. It isn't hard to sell us to big name players on their way down I.e. Arnie, Shaqiri, Afellay, Bojan
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 13, 2018 14:34:22 GMT
Momo been right all along shocker.. ;-) This time it's all out fucking war son. The feckless cunt has cost me 175 notes with this new level of fuckwittery! |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jan 13, 2018 14:37:01 GMT
Those saying it's not his fault
Well, let's look at the facts
Peter sent Scholes to "seal the deal" so to speak.
It was verbally agreed, but not signed.
So, who's fault is that exactly?
Scholes should have had his NatWest fucking banking app, his card reader at the ready, and when Sanches said yes. He should have rang Espanyol, transferred the 4 million.
Got Qique to sign the prepared managerial contract's, and unveiled him today
But no.
Scholes presumably said, ah great! Thanks for verbally agreeing to become our new manager, I'll pop back tomorrow with the contracts to sign.
Fucking wank Tony. Wank !
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Post by fca47 on Jan 13, 2018 14:37:45 GMT
Assume everybody on here knows what went on in the negotiations. He is probably another wanker using Stoke's interest to get something.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Jan 13, 2018 14:39:22 GMT
Momo been right all along shocker.. ;-) This time it's all out fucking war son. The feckless cunt has cost me 175 notes with this new level of fuckwittery! Shit, didn't realise there was cash money involved son! This and Bella Emberg passing away on the same day. You OK?! |
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Post by eddyclamp on Jan 13, 2018 14:39:30 GMT
That's it Bayern you hang the bloke without knowing the facts |
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Post by andystokey on Jan 13, 2018 14:40:05 GMT
It happens more times than you might think. People say yes to jobs then overnight some nagging doubt changes their mind. When that happens its best for both parties the truth was out.
If he was worried about seeing his family, ex wife, lifestyle whatever. He wouldn't be pulling up any trees for us.
Surely we've seen with Jese, Palacios etc. Getting a contract signed that shouldn't have been costs both parties even more.
I'm no big Scholes fan but the package was excellent by all accounts. The guy said yes you can't blame SCFC for this.
As for getting rid of TS do we think having no CEO will help negotiations between players and managers in the next two weeks. I don't think so. We just need to move on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:43:01 GMT
That's it Bayern you hang the bloke without knowing the facts Another deal he's failed to close when everything is agreed. What more do we need to know? It happens way too often. He's a joke. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 13, 2018 14:44:51 GMT
It happens more times than you might think. People say yes to jobs then overnight some nagging doubt changes their mind. When that happens its best for both parties the truth was out. If he was worried about seeing his family, ex wife, lifestyle whatever. He wouldn't be pulling up any trees for us. Surely we've seen with Jese, Palacios etc. Getting a contract signed that shouldn't have been costs both parties even more. I'm no big Scholes fan but the package was excellent by all accounts. The guy said yes you can't blame SCFC for this. As for getting rid of TS do we think having no CEO will help negotiations between players and managers in the next two weeks. I don't think so. We just need to move on. Move on? It happens once a year. There's only one thing that needs to be moved on. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 13, 2018 14:49:04 GMT
This time it's all out fucking war son. The feckless cunt has cost me 175 notes with this new level of fuckwittery! Shit, didn't realise there was cash money involved son! This and Bella Emberg passing away on the same day. You OK?! Drowning my sorrows. RIP Blunderwoman. Fuck off Scholes! |
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Post by itsajoytobeapotter on Jan 13, 2018 14:50:17 GMT
At the end of the day this whole process has been a disaster. QSF may have changed his mind but we should never have been all eggs in one basket.
The performance of the team has been poor for months but its only when Hughes gets fired that enquiries are made about availability of replacements. A short list of candidates should always be available. It's called succession planning.
The club is a shambles from top to bottom and the responsibility for that lies with the CEO. In any well run business he would have gone years ago. But the football club is not a well run business.
SCHOLES OUT.
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Post by professorplump on Jan 13, 2018 14:50:20 GMT
Scholes is a convenient target but he is operating from the instructions given to him by the Coates family. Anyone who thinks that just replacing him will improve everything is fooling themselves.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 13, 2018 14:52:19 GMT
Lets face its not the first time
I think we need to be very vocal about this at the next game.
He has been robbing a living from us for years
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 13, 2018 14:52:30 GMT
Do think he needs replacing but don't see this as his fault. It appears QSF agreed all the terms then changed his mind as the paperwork was being prepared. Totally down to QSF this one. That said don't rate Scholes How many does that happen though? It's not a one off. We can't close deals when everything is agreed. That's an issue. Theres no point banging on about it, he has fooked up so many deals/times that its obvious that he aint going anywhere, the same as cartwright...they are both teflon. This must mean that peter/john/denise are quite happy with his work and have been for the time he has been at stoke. Nothing is gonna happen with scholes/cartwright, and that is down to the coates'..... |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 13, 2018 14:53:28 GMT
It happens more times than you might think. People say yes to jobs then overnight some nagging doubt changes their mind. When that happens its best for both parties the truth was out. If he was worried about seeing his family, ex wife, lifestyle whatever. He wouldn't be pulling up any trees for us. Surely we've seen with Jese, Palacios etc. Getting a contract signed that shouldn't have been costs both parties even more. I'm no big Scholes fan but the package was excellent by all accounts. The guy said yes you can't blame SCFC for this. As for getting rid of TS do we think having no CEO will help negotiations between players and managers in the next two weeks. I don't think so. We just need to move on. The problem is that Scholes could be the nagging doubt. He might have been speaking / dealing with him for a while and he’s thought I don’t want to work with this weasel. Who knows QSF might have even called MH and he coukd have had a word re the clubs broken promises re funds etc. Ultimately he’s not sold the project and that’s his job. By all accounts QSF. wasn’t happy in his current job clearly we’ve not sold ourself to be a better option. Easy for the press to blame QSF for changing his mind but something / someone has made him do that. |
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Post by andystokey on Jan 13, 2018 14:57:05 GMT
It happens more times than you might think. People say yes to jobs then overnight some nagging doubt changes their mind. When that happens its best for both parties the truth was out. If he was worried about seeing his family, ex wife, lifestyle whatever. He wouldn't be pulling up any trees for us. Surely we've seen with Jese, Palacios etc. Getting a contract signed that shouldn't have been costs both parties even more. I'm no big Scholes fan but the package was excellent by all accounts. The guy said yes you can't blame SCFC for this. As for getting rid of TS do we think having no CEO will help negotiations between players and managers in the next two weeks. I don't think so. We just need to move on. The problem is that Scholes could be the nagging doubt. He might have been speaking / dealing with him for a while and he’s thought I don’t want to work with this weasel. Who knows he might have even called MH and he might have had a word re the broken promises re funds etc. Ultimately he’s not sold the project and that’s his job. By all accounts he wasn’t happy in his current job clearly we’ve not sold ourself to be a better option. Easy for the press to blame him for changing his mind but something / someone has made him do that. See my post on the other thread regarding his family Flores is separated from his wife, Patricia, but she and their four children moved to London when he got the job at newly promoted Watford last June. It was Patricia who chose Hampstead and Flores has taken a pad close to theirs. He has retained an amicable relationship with her. “My kids and my ex-wife live close to me, always they live close to me,” Flores says. “I always want to be close to them, as close as possible to my kids.” |
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Post by baystokie on Jan 13, 2018 14:57:40 GMT
Those saying it's not his fault Well, let's look at the facts Peter sent Scholes to "seal the deal" so to speak. It was verbally agreed, but not signed. So, who's fault is that exactly? Scholes should have had his NatWest fucking banking app, his card reader at the ready, and when Sanches said yes. He should have rang Espanyol, transferred the 4 million. Got Qique to sign the prepared managerial contract's, and unveiled him today But no. Scholes presumably said, ah great! Thanks for verbally agreeing to become our new manager, I'll pop back tomorrow with the contracts to sign. Fucking wank Tony. Wank ! 'Transferred the 4 million' - what, BEFORE he'd signed? How would you now get it back!! 'Got Quique to sign the contracts' - twisted his arm up his back? Yet another simplistic view of contract business, no doubt fired by anger and disappointment? |
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Post by citynickscfc on Jan 13, 2018 14:57:47 GMT
Do you think he asked them ''where is the nearest Dominoes, we have to order a few in to celebrate!".....To which the Spaniards, once having googled dominoes, looked up in disgrace shaking their heads and gave stern looks of despair towards Quique
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