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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 14, 2017 18:53:02 GMT
Never liked Hughes. For me he just used us to get utd job Milton would never have him now.
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Post by milky on Dec 14, 2017 18:57:14 GMT
Well I've said worse and had worse said to me. Its normally water under the bridge a few hours later or the next day. Its a fairly modern concept all this being offended shite. If your offended at being called a cunt, yes you do need to man up imo. I'm betting you didn't call Pulis a cunt when he was trying to get half our team sent off !
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Post by thegift on Dec 14, 2017 20:49:08 GMT
If your offended at being called a cunt, yes you do need to man up imo. I'm betting you didn't call Pulis a cunt when he was trying to get half our team sent off ! Yes i did, he's an opposition manager. Likewise i shall be doing the same to arnie on saturday
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 14, 2017 22:34:49 GMT
He’s lost it. The players. The crowd. It’s gone. Obvious for all to see - Don't agree But the level of abuse being thrown his way is shameful - Agree I’d say some of you should hang your heads in shame. But to feel shame you’d probably need a couple of brain cells to rub together - Agree Some posters on here have really shown their true colours in recent weeks. Sad, angry, twisted. Pitiful. - Agree Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/274099/true-colours#ixzz51HGTJYP1SGS
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 14, 2017 22:35:43 GMT
You’re looking forward to a ‘vile’ atmosphere. Do you yearn for the good old days of public executions? I've always liked them tbh (vile atmospheres, not public executions), there's just something good about them. And in this case, the end goal for it is the correct goal. Even if we win he should be sacked though. It's gone too far and it's already harmed the club more than any abuse to Hughes could. Just so you know, we currently lie in 15th place SGS
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 15, 2017 7:42:55 GMT
The vicious personal abuse being said about Mark is vile, unnecessary and, whatever anyone's view on Hughes as Stoke's manager, says more about them than him.
Also it's noticeable how history gets rewritten so easily. He's ran out of steam with us but some of us are choosing to forget the good times we've had with him.
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Post by marrer on Dec 15, 2017 8:07:28 GMT
The vicious personal abuse being said about Mark is vile, unnecessary and, whatever anyone's view on Hughes as Stoke's manager, says more about them than him. Also it's noticeable how history gets rewritten so easily. He's ran out of steam with us but some of us are choosing to forget the good times we've had with him. Well said Joe.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 8:39:59 GMT
Whatever if your world is all fluffy quit I'll just keep being me. But why is it Fluffyworld people who have to quit? Why can't it be Swearyworld people who quit instead? Simple really sweary people are not the ones complaining if you want a fluffyworld I suggest you stay in the house the real world isn't like that.
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Post by thegift on Dec 15, 2017 8:58:57 GMT
I've always liked them tbh (vile atmospheres, not public executions), there's just something good about them. And in this case, the end goal for it is the correct goal. Even if we win he should be sacked though. It's gone too far and it's already harmed the club more than any abuse to Hughes could. Just so you know, we currently lie in 15th place SGS Thanks mate, just in case i don't recognize who's posting by your username on the left, you always remind me at the bottom of your posts TG
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2017 10:00:20 GMT
But why is it Fluffyworld people who have to quit? Why can't it be Swearyworld people who quit instead? Simple really sweary people are not the ones complaining if you want a fluffyworld I suggest you stay in the house the real world isn't like that. So because you complain about something you find distasteful or even, if some of the words were uttered out loud in public, illegal, you should be punished by being confined indoors because the 'real world' is too rough for you, is that what you're saying? Whilst the ones with emotional and verbal incontinence who can't or refuse to control their disgraceful outbursts are allowed to ride roughshod over common decency? Nah you're talking tosh.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 10:04:50 GMT
Simple really sweary people are not the ones complaining if you want a fluffyworld I suggest you stay in the house the real world isn't like that. So because you complain about something you find distasteful or even, if some of the words were uttered out loud in public, illegal, you should be punished by being confined indoors because the 'real world' is too rough for you, is that what you're saying? Whilst the ones with emotional and verbal incontinence who can't or refuse to control their disgraceful outbursts are allowed to ride roughshod over common decency? Nah you're talking tosh. People swear quite a lot if you find that difficult to cope with and yearn for a time when people were more restrained I don't know what else to tell you to do I'm pretty sure you aren't going to change the way of the world.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2017 10:47:11 GMT
So because you complain about something you find distasteful or even, if some of the words were uttered out loud in public, illegal, you should be punished by being confined indoors because the 'real world' is too rough for you, is that what you're saying? Whilst the ones with emotional and verbal incontinence who can't or refuse to control their disgraceful outbursts are allowed to ride roughshod over common decency? Nah you're talking tosh. People swear quite a lot if you find that difficult to cope with and yearn for a time when people were more restrained I don't know what else to tell you to do I'm pretty sure you aren't going to change the way of the world. I was being deliberately obtuse to wind you up. But we're not just talking about swearing though are we? I swear a lot and have used all the words we're talking about, and worse, in various contexts in my time. But unless I was proper falling out with someone and on the verge of fighting them I wouldn't use the language directly towards someone with the feeling behind it that has been aimed at Mark Hughes this past few days. We're talking about some fairly vile abuse aimed at him personally which goes way beyond the odd f and blind in normal 'real life' conversations. Also why is it any less of a 'human right' not to be subjected to such vile language as it is to use the language in the first place? My mum is 80 and has never uttered a swear word in her life. Are you saying that if she goes to the local pub for a meal with my dad she should have to put up with foul mouthed louts on the next table 'fucking' and 'cunting' every other word because this is the 'real world' and she should 'man up' or just stay indoors? You're wrong anyway people don't call one another cunts in everyday 'real' life. In 'real life' people are generally pleasant, polite, good humoured and respectful. It's just a few who aren't. Just like on here. We don't have to swear, there are millions of other words we could use, but if you swear within my earshot I have to hear it, or see it if it's written as the title of a thread on here. Unless of course I do as you say and lock myself away in the cupboard under the stairs where the 'real world' won't intrude.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 11:28:56 GMT
People swear quite a lot if you find that difficult to cope with and yearn for a time when people were more restrained I don't know what else to tell you to do I'm pretty sure you aren't going to change the way of the world. I was being deliberately obtuse to wind you up. But we're not just talking about swearing though are we? I swear a lot and have used all the words we're talking about, and worse, in various contexts in my time. But unless I was proper falling out with someone and on the verge of fighting them I wouldn't use the language directly towards someone with the feeling behind it that has been aimed at Mark Hughes this past few days. We're talking about some fairly vile abuse aimed at him personally which goes way beyond the odd f and blind in normal 'real life' conversations. Also why is it any less of a 'human right' not to be subjected to such vile language as it is to use the language in the first place? My mum is 80 and has never uttered a swear word in her life. Are you saying that if she goes to the local pub for a meal with my dad she should have to put up with foul mouthed louts on the next table 'fucking' and 'cunting' every other word because this is the 'real world' and she should 'man up' or just stay indoors? You're wrong anyway people don't call one another cunts in everyday 'real' life. In 'real life' people are generally pleasant, polite, good humoured and respectful. It's just a few who aren't. Just like on here. We don't have to swear, there are millions of other words we could use, but if you swear within my earshot I have to hear it, or see it if it's written as the title of a thread on here. Unless of course I do as you say and lock myself away in the cupboard under the stairs where the 'real world' won't intrude. My own Mother is of a generation where swearing is frowned upon and I've told her the same on several occasions "you have to live in the world as it is". You seem to be focusing on one word in particular that seems to press your buttons but I'd say to you that the world is now much more at ease with bad language that would at one time have been made a big deal of, you only have to look at what is broadcast through your television to see that. People are saying hateful and abusive things about Mark Hughes I'm sure he doesn't really deserve it but things are undeniably going badly and he's in a position where he is subject to the full range of emotions I doubt he really merits such adulation when things go well either but that's football.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 15, 2017 11:48:42 GMT
People swear quite a lot if you find that difficult to cope with and yearn for a time when people were more restrained I don't know what else to tell you to do I'm pretty sure you aren't going to change the way of the world. I was being deliberately obtuse to wind you up. But we're not just talking about swearing though are we? I swear a lot and have used all the words we're talking about, and worse, in various contexts in my time. But unless I was proper falling out with someone and on the verge of fighting them I wouldn't use the language directly towards someone with the feeling behind it that has been aimed at Mark Hughes this past few days. We're talking about some fairly vile abuse aimed at him personally which goes way beyond the odd f and blind in normal 'real life' conversations. Also why is it any less of a 'human right' not to be subjected to such vile language as it is to use the language in the first place? My mum is 80 and has never uttered a swear word in her life. Are you saying that if she goes to the local pub for a meal with my dad she should have to put up with foul mouthed louts on the next table 'fucking' and 'cunting' every other word because this is the 'real world' and she should 'man up' or just stay indoors? You're wrong anyway people don't call one another cunts in everyday 'real' life. In 'real life' people are generally pleasant, polite, good humoured and respectful. It's just a few who aren't. Just like on here. We don't have to swear, there are millions of other words we could use, but if you swear within my earshot I have to hear it, or see it if it's written as the title of a thread on here. Unless of course I do as you say and lock myself away in the cupboard under the stairs where the 'real world' won't intrude. F*#$ing great post.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2017 11:49:26 GMT
I was being deliberately obtuse to wind you up. But we're not just talking about swearing though are we? I swear a lot and have used all the words we're talking about, and worse, in various contexts in my time. But unless I was proper falling out with someone and on the verge of fighting them I wouldn't use the language directly towards someone with the feeling behind it that has been aimed at Mark Hughes this past few days. We're talking about some fairly vile abuse aimed at him personally which goes way beyond the odd f and blind in normal 'real life' conversations. Also why is it any less of a 'human right' not to be subjected to such vile language as it is to use the language in the first place? My mum is 80 and has never uttered a swear word in her life. Are you saying that if she goes to the local pub for a meal with my dad she should have to put up with foul mouthed louts on the next table 'fucking' and 'cunting' every other word because this is the 'real world' and she should 'man up' or just stay indoors? You're wrong anyway people don't call one another cunts in everyday 'real' life. In 'real life' people are generally pleasant, polite, good humoured and respectful. It's just a few who aren't. Just like on here. We don't have to swear, there are millions of other words we could use, but if you swear within my earshot I have to hear it, or see it if it's written as the title of a thread on here. Unless of course I do as you say and lock myself away in the cupboard under the stairs where the 'real world' won't intrude. My own Mother is of a generation where swearing is frowned upon and I've told her the same on several occasions "you have to live in the world as it is". You seem to be focusing on one word in particular that seems to press your buttons but I'd say to you that the world is now much more at ease with bad language that would at one time have been made a big deal of, you only have to look at what is broadcast through your television to see that. People are saying hateful and abusive things about Mark Hughes I'm sure he doesn't really deserve it but things are undeniably going badly and he's in a position where he is subject to the full range of emotions I doubt he really merits such adulation when things go well either but that's football. I don't actually disagree with you mate. It's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle and rewind to the 1950's. My argument with you was the 'take it or leave it' attitude and the if you don't like it stay at home comment. I just don't think there is any need for the personal abuse we've seen on here recently. I blame social media I'm sure given the opportunity to take a breath before speaking most people wouldn't say face to face the vitriolic things they've instantly banged out with the cloak of anonymity the internet affords. Also I find it ironic that you are acting as a swearyworld apologist as you're one of the few posters who doesn't resort to profanity in their posts, or at least not that I can remember and certainly no worse than me.
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 11:55:35 GMT
My own Mother is of a generation where swearing is frowned upon and I've told her the same on several occasions "you have to live in the world as it is". You seem to be focusing on one word in particular that seems to press your buttons but I'd say to you that the world is now much more at ease with bad language that would at one time have been made a big deal of, you only have to look at what is broadcast through your television to see that. People are saying hateful and abusive things about Mark Hughes I'm sure he doesn't really deserve it but things are undeniably going badly and he's in a position where he is subject to the full range of emotions I doubt he really merits such adulation when things go well either but that's football. I don't actually disagree with you mate. It's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle and rewind to the 1950's. My argument with you was the 'take it or leave it' attitude and the if you don't like it stay at home comment. I just don't think there is any need for the personal abuse we've seen on here recently. I blame social media I'm sure given the opportunity to take a breath before speaking most people wouldn't say face to face the vitriolic things they've instantly banged out with the cloak of anonymity the internet affords. Also I find it ironic that you are acting as a swearyworld apologist as you're one of the few posters who doesn't resort to profanity in their posts, or at least not that I can remember and certainly no worse than me. I do swear a lot in my posting but try not to do it in a nasty way, sometimes that slips. I was steaming Tuesday night for instance I've become so frustrated with Hughes cowardly tactics, subbing Shaq and settling for a draw and it blowing up in his face yet again sent me over the edge.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2017 11:59:17 GMT
I was being deliberately obtuse to wind you up. But we're not just talking about swearing though are we? I swear a lot and have used all the words we're talking about, and worse, in various contexts in my time. But unless I was proper falling out with someone and on the verge of fighting them I wouldn't use the language directly towards someone with the feeling behind it that has been aimed at Mark Hughes this past few days. We're talking about some fairly vile abuse aimed at him personally which goes way beyond the odd f and blind in normal 'real life' conversations. Also why is it any less of a 'human right' not to be subjected to such vile language as it is to use the language in the first place? My mum is 80 and has never uttered a swear word in her life. Are you saying that if she goes to the local pub for a meal with my dad she should have to put up with foul mouthed louts on the next table 'fucking' and 'cunting' every other word because this is the 'real world' and she should 'man up' or just stay indoors? You're wrong anyway people don't call one another cunts in everyday 'real' life. In 'real life' people are generally pleasant, polite, good humoured and respectful. It's just a few who aren't. Just like on here. We don't have to swear, there are millions of other words we could use, but if you swear within my earshot I have to hear it, or see it if it's written as the title of a thread on here. Unless of course I do as you say and lock myself away in the cupboard under the stairs where the 'real world' won't intrude. F*#$ing great post. See I don't mind swearing if it's humorous or in the right context and environment. I am after all a fellow foul mouthed bastard. I just occassionally choose to exercise some self control in certain circumstances and find it difficult to understand why alster feels others can't do the same.
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Post by devondumpling on Dec 15, 2017 12:01:29 GMT
So because you complain about something you find distasteful or even, if some of the words were uttered out loud in public, illegal, you should be punished by being confined indoors because the 'real world' is too rough for you, is that what you're saying? Whilst the ones with emotional and verbal incontinence who can't or refuse to control their disgraceful outbursts are allowed to ride roughshod over common decency? Nah you're talking tosh. People swear quite a lot if you find that difficult to cope with and yearn for a time when people were more restrained I don't know what else to tell you to do I'm pretty sure you aren't going to change the way of the world. You really are an odius person (not the only one so don't let it go to your head). Despite your drivel, most people are still respectful of other human beings and their right to reasoned debate. The whole thing is skewed by social media as most people are aware. Hopefully you can lock yourself in your locker wherever that might be, contemplate what an idiot you are making of yourself (we presume you are of adult age) and just grow up a bit. It is possible to be passionately involved with Stoke City without going into the gutter, (and do think Hughes should gracefully bow out). We await the new grown up, fully fledged Alster. Are you Germanic by any chance? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alster
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 15, 2017 12:06:45 GMT
I don't actually disagree with you mate. It's impossible to put the genie back in the bottle and rewind to the 1950's. My argument with you was the 'take it or leave it' attitude and the if you don't like it stay at home comment. I just don't think there is any need for the personal abuse we've seen on here recently. I blame social media I'm sure given the opportunity to take a breath before speaking most people wouldn't say face to face the vitriolic things they've instantly banged out with the cloak of anonymity the internet affords. Also I find it ironic that you are acting as a swearyworld apologist as you're one of the few posters who doesn't resort to profanity in their posts, or at least not that I can remember and certainly no worse than me. I do swear a lot in my posting but try not to do it in a nasty way, sometimes that slips. I was steaming Tuesday night for instance I've become so frustrated with Hughes cowardly tactics, subbing Shaq and settling for a draw and it blowing up in his face yet again sent me over the edge. I was more resigned Tuesday night than anything. Like I will be if and when we lose Saturday. And will carry on being until Hughes goes. The defeat that got me proper raving was the Palace game but I stayed off here after that for that very reason. It's easy to call Benji all the c**** under the sun when you're in that kind of a mood so I just let it lie until I'd calmed down a bit. It's only a game after all
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Post by ohbottom on Dec 15, 2017 12:09:10 GMT
But why is it Fluffyworld people who have to quit? Why can't it be Swearyworld people who quit instead? Simple really sweary people are not the ones complaining if you want a fluffyworld I suggest you stay in the house the real world isn't like that. Hang on - if they're not complaining why are they so sweary? Surely they're the ones who complain the most - almost by definition.
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Post by cousindupree on Dec 15, 2017 12:19:43 GMT
Sadly swearing and profanity is commonplace in today's society it's become the norm in comedy, films etc. Many people find it difficult to string a sentence together without punctuating it with using f...ing almost merely as a common adjective. English is a wonderful rich language why don't people use more of it. I am with LG on this why do we have to accept this language just because it's now the 'norm'. I had a situation recently in a restaurant celebrating my mother's 80th birthday the people on the next table were using foul language, they weren't having an argument or angry or making a point it was just their usual mode of conversation. It clearly upset my mother and I had a word. The 'swearypeople', they couldn't understand my complaint and were abusive to me. I guess I risk getting a battering one day such is the way of the world.
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Post by SneydGreenStokie on Dec 15, 2017 12:24:26 GMT
Just so you know, we currently lie in 15th place SGS Thanks mate, just in case i don't recognize who's posting by your username on the left, you always remind me at the bottom of your posts TG Your welcome SGS
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Post by alster on Dec 15, 2017 15:36:39 GMT
Sadly swearing and profanity is commonplace in today's society it's become the norm in comedy, films etc. Many people find it difficult to string a sentence together without punctuating it with using f...ing almost merely as a common adjective. English is a wonderful rich language why don't people use more of it. I am with LG on this why do we have to accept this language just because it's now the 'norm'. I had a situation recently in a restaurant celebrating my mother's 80th birthday the people on the next table were using foul language, they weren't having an argument or angry or making a point it was just their usual mode of conversation. It clearly upset my mother and I had a word. The 'swearypeople', they couldn't understand my complaint and were abusive to me. I guess I risk getting a battering one day such is the way of the world. That's the thing you see the sweary people were just being themselves. They weren't swearing at you or your Mother "you all really need to learn to live in the world as it is". Personally I can't stand the greedy privileged rich but neither do I go around harassing them. Why do you have to accept it? because you can't do anything about it and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too. I'd tell you to go to places where sweary people can't afford but from my experience of those types their language is no different. I think its a generational thing I'm older but have spent most of my life in very poor environments where swearing is rife, that's my excuse anyway.
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 15, 2017 17:36:01 GMT
In that case you don’t half talk shite
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Post by greyman on Dec 16, 2017 9:42:25 GMT
The vicious personal abuse being said about Mark is vile, unnecessary and, whatever anyone's view on Hughes as Stoke's manager, says more about them than him. Also it's noticeable how history gets rewritten so easily. He's ran out of steam with us but some of us are choosing to forget the good times we've had with him. Yes. I'd also add that there's a level of hysteria on the board that is rooted in our new sense of entitlement. Everybody's worried about what is happening, the vast majority want Hughes gone, but a lot of people also seem to have lost their minds.
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Post by alster on Dec 16, 2017 9:49:00 GMT
In that case you don’t half talk shite I think we both have a very low opinion of the thoughts and ramblings of the other. Its not exclusive to you.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 16, 2017 10:02:50 GMT
Sadly swearing and profanity is commonplace in today's society it's become the norm in comedy, films etc. Many people find it difficult to string a sentence together without punctuating it with using f...ing almost merely as a common adjective. English is a wonderful rich language why don't people use more of it. I am with LG on this why do we have to accept this language just because it's now the 'norm'. I had a situation recently in a restaurant celebrating my mother's 80th birthday the people on the next table were using foul language, they weren't having an argument or angry or making a point it was just their usual mode of conversation. It clearly upset my mother and I had a word. The 'swearypeople', they couldn't understand my complaint and were abusive to me. I guess I risk getting a battering one day such is the way of the world. That's the thing you see the sweary people were just being themselves. They weren't swearing at you or your Mother "you all really need to learn to live in the world as it is". Personally I can't stand the greedy privileged rich but neither do I go around harassing them. Why do you have to accept it? because you can't do anything about it and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too. I'd tell you to go to places where sweary people can't afford but from my experience of those types their language is no different. I think its a generational thing I'm older but have spent most of my life in very poor environments where swearing is rife, that's my excuse anyway. So to move this debate on a bit because this is getting a bit tedious now. You say it's pointless to say or do anything about vile language because it's the way of the world and you can't change it. Why then are we bothering debating Mark Hughes' future, in either normal or sweary terms? Why can't we just accept what will be will be. We can't possibly have any effect on whether Peter Coates retains him or sacks him and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too.
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Post by alster on Dec 16, 2017 10:12:33 GMT
That's the thing you see the sweary people were just being themselves. They weren't swearing at you or your Mother "you all really need to learn to live in the world as it is". Personally I can't stand the greedy privileged rich but neither do I go around harassing them. Why do you have to accept it? because you can't do anything about it and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too. I'd tell you to go to places where sweary people can't afford but from my experience of those types their language is no different. I think its a generational thing I'm older but have spent most of my life in very poor environments where swearing is rife, that's my excuse anyway. So to move this debate on a bit because this is getting a bit tedious now. You say it's pointless to say or do anything about vile language because it's the way of the world and you can't change it. Why then are we bothering debating Mark Hughes' future, in either normal or sweary terms? Why can't we just accept what will be will be. We can't possibly have any effect on whether Peter Coates retains him or sacks him and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too. Well the first point is that we shouldn't bother debating anything if we don't enjoy it. The second point is I'm not too sure what you think I'm advocating. I certainly won't be involved in any protest or demonstration violent or otherwise. Yeah I'll moan my bag off on here but I'm not an active supporter in much any way at all either positive or negative. I'm just a bloke who likes watching football and happens to come from Stoke. I'll applaud good play and if it gets too bad to watch I'll leave.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Dec 16, 2017 10:15:01 GMT
So to move this debate on a bit because this is getting a bit tedious now. You say it's pointless to say or do anything about vile language because it's the way of the world and you can't change it. Why then are we bothering debating Mark Hughes' future, in either normal or sweary terms? Why can't we just accept what will be will be. We can't possibly have any effect on whether Peter Coates retains him or sacks him and making a fuss about it will simply stress you out or indeed lead to violence if the sweary people are that way inclined too. Well the first point is that we shouldn't bother debating anything if we don't enjoy it. The second point is I'm not too sure what you think I'm advocating. I certainly won't be involved in any protest or demonstration violent or otherwise. Yeah I'll moan my bag off on here but I'm not an active supporter in much any way at all either positive or negative. I'm just a bloke who likes watching football and happens to come from Stoke. I'll applaud good play and if it gets too bad to watch I'll leave. I was pulling your leg. Lighten up a bit.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 16, 2017 12:16:14 GMT
Agree that abuse shouldn't be launched at the manager, or any club official. I'm dreading Saturday. Think the atmosphere will be vile. It's going to be awesome, it's what has been needed for a good 12 months now. There's been some shitty things posted on here late but this takes it to a new level. A "supporter" getting their rocks off at the thought of the fans turning against their own manager and team because they have made their (tiny self opinionated) mind that they want the manager gone is pretty sick. You should be ashamed of yourself but I don't think your ego would allow it.
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