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Post by Pugsley on Dec 14, 2017 7:27:41 GMT
You’re far more intelligent than some of your comments on this thread suggest. It’s only the Internet. FFS. It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. I'd pay money to see you call Hughes a useless cunt to his face.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 7:33:12 GMT
Have to agree. The use of the word "cunt" to describe him (and Kevin Wimmer) is getting beyond the pale. Please cut it out eh? My late father gave me advice which I've always carried with me - that if you're in the right you can afford to be civil, and if you're in the wrong you're a fool to be anything else. There are many things in football which make me angry and upset, but in my FSF and FA Council work, I ensure that I am always polite and never personal, both in writing and face to face. Whatever view one takes of the abilities of our manager and some of the players (who IMHO are doing their best even if it isn't good enough) I think that some of the language I've read today on here and elsewhere directed at them, and in some cases at fellow fans who happen to take a different view, is distasteful and deplorable, and at least as far as I'm concerned, detracts significantly from the points being made. It is an unfortunate feature of modern social media that some people use it to express themselves in terms which I suspect they wouldn't ever do face to face, behind the anonymity of a username. I think the verbal and emotional outpouring is a combination of the internet anonymity and a "Fever Pitch" emotional fetishisation of the club by many posters. I am in no way excusing it though. The club, as a collective whole, is performing poorly and well below expectations, and significantly below many dreams and aspirations. Indeed the cruelty of our past success of Stokelona was exposed by Burnley who have exceeded this through sheer determination and doggedness. They have out-Stoked Stoke. Accordingly this gives rise to anger and a desire to blame. We have lost all our identity. What many forget is that Hughes and Coates are just men, privileged and positioned as they are and yet as seemingly helpless as the rest of us to address this hapless slide. I'm sure neither they nor the players wish to be failures, despite earning riches either way. It's far more pleasant to be a winner than a loser, rich or poor. I understand the frustration but I think we should express this on the board with a filter of decency. It's all getting a bit much both on and off the pitch isn't it? It's times like these I wish we held some of the old-fashioned reserve we were once credited or condemned to as a nation.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2017 7:51:12 GMT
You’re far more intelligent than some of your comments on this thread suggest. It’s only the Internet. FFS. It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. Who hears it in the pub? Who reads it on here? God knows. Hughes? His kids? His friends? Even if it’s none of the above it could be young kids. If you’re not an aggressive bully in real life why be one on here? Not that you are btw but there are plenty who certainly come across that way here at times. No need.
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Post by gibby1409 on Dec 14, 2017 8:11:11 GMT
I've not been on here for a while, but surely this is one for the moderators to sort out?
I get as frustrated as anyone with our current situation, but I'm sure that if I stood up in the boothen and said some of the things about our players, our manager and our club, that I see posted on here, then I'd be kicked out? I'd only have to do this once, and the mods know as well as anyone who the worst offenders are, so they should step upto the mark.
Opinions and free speech are fundamental rights that should always be in place. But there a few who abuse this privilige and badly overstep the mark. Imo of course!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2017 8:13:51 GMT
It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. Who hears it in the pub? Who reads it on here? God knows. Hughes? His kids? His friends? Even if it’s none of the above it could be young kids. If you’re not an aggressive bully in real life why be one on here? Not that you are btw but there are plenty who certainly come across that way here at times. No need. I'll be honest if his family read it then more fool them too. I just don't think it's a problem sorry and is part and parcel of the job he's in. As long as it is just frustrated/angry name calling then its fine. And kids shouldn't be on here. It's never been a forum for kids in my 12 years of posting on here. More so to do with the general discussion board! 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2017 8:14:54 GMT
I've not been on here for a while, but surely this is one for the moderators to sort out? I get as frustrated as anyone with our current situation, but I'm sure that if I stood up in the boothen and said some of the things about our players, our manager and our club, that I see posted on here, then I'd be kicked out? I'd only have to do this once, and the mods know as well as anyone who the worst offenders are, so they should step upto the mark. Opinions and free speech are fundamental rights that should always be in place. But there a few who abuse this privilige and badly overstep the mark. Imo of course! Shouting things such as what?
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Post by Davef on Dec 14, 2017 8:19:07 GMT
You’re far more intelligent than some of your comments on this thread suggest. It’s only the Internet. FFS. It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. I've already explained why it's different on here. Despite what you may think, you don't own or run The Oatcake.
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 8:46:12 GMT
My late father gave me advice which I've always carried with me - that if you're in the right you can afford to be civil, and if you're in the wrong you're a fool to be anything else. There are many things in football which make me angry and upset, but in my FSF and FA Council work, I ensure that I am always polite and never personal, both in writing and face to face. Whatever view one takes of the abilities of our manager and some of the players (who IMHO are doing their best even if it isn't good enough) I think that some of the language I've read today on here and elsewhere directed at them, and in some cases at fellow fans who happen to take a different view, is distasteful and deplorable, and at least as far as I'm concerned, detracts significantly from the points being made. It is an unfortunate feature of modern social media that some people use it to express themselves in terms which I suspect they wouldn't ever do face to face, behind the anonymity of a username. I think the verbal and emotional outpouring is a combination of the internet anonymity and a "Fever Pitch" emotional fetishisation of the club by many posters. I am in no way excusing it though. The club, as a collective whole, is performing poorly and well below expectations, and significantly below many dreams and aspirations. Indeed the cruelty of our past success of Stokelona was exposed by Burnley who have exceeded this through sheer determination and doggedness. They have out-Stoked Stoke. Accordingly this gives rise to anger and a desire to blame. We have lost all our identity. What many forget is that Hughes and Coates are just men, privileged and positioned as they are and yet as seemingly helpless as the rest of us to address this hapless slide. I'm sure neither they nor the players wish to be failures, despite earning riches either way. It's far more pleasant to be a winner than a loser, rich or poor. I understand the frustration but I think we should express this on the board with a filter of decency. It's all getting a bit much both on and off the pitch isn't it? It's times like these I wish we held some of the old-fashioned reserve we were once credited or condemned to as a nation. What a load of old baloney. If the Coates' don't like being losers they might want to look at the hundred and odd million they took from bet365 in dividends let alone executive salaries in this year alone and ask themselves why they didn't do more to help the club compete with its peers. And why the fuck do you want to live in the past where these reserved stuffed shirts might have been very polite whilst they were slaughtering each other in their millions. Give me an age where people express themselves more freely any day. There was a time when some posh privileged twat would blow a whistle and send men out into a hail of machine gun fire or worse. Give the young people a gun nowadays and they've got enough sense to shoot the posh twat with the whistle before he blows it.
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Post by thegift on Dec 14, 2017 8:55:53 GMT
Well if you haven't been to a game for the last 2 years you won't understand how bad its been. Spunking a whole weekend and £300 + to see them give up at 55 minutes? Get a grip Ok that's the Spurs game. Which other games have they given up at 55 minutes? You make it sound like it's every game. Did they really give up last night? Against Man City were they trying to chase the game and then got caught? Do you think that in this day and age you still have to be there to know if they played well or not? If you measure your "Stokieness" by how much you spend every week, then that's a pretty sad indictment. Absolute garbage. I don't know if they've ever gave up before at 55 mins because no one has been thick enough to come out and admit it before. It was a better performance but fuck me were playing burnley not Barcelona. I do think you have to be at the game to know if they played well. If there not on TV how the fuck are are you going to judge them? Going off Adrian Durham's opinion on talk sport? I think you need a lie down and get off the crack pipe you have been smoking. Idiot.
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Post by thegift on Dec 14, 2017 8:57:20 GMT
It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. I'd pay money to see you call Hughes a useless cunt to his face. How much Pugs? I'd do it. This weekend at west ham. Tell me what time he gets to the ground and where i need to be, fire £100 into my paypal and ill do it and record it.
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 9:00:16 GMT
Ok that's the Spurs game. Which other games have they given up at 55 minutes? You make it sound like it's every game. Did they really give up last night? Against Man City were they trying to chase the game and then got caught? Do you think that in this day and age you still have to be there to know if they played well or not? If you measure your "Stokieness" by how much you spend every week, then that's a pretty sad indictment. Absolute garbage. I don't know if they've ever gave up before at 55 mins because no one has been thick enough to come out and admit it before. It was a better performance but fuck me were playing burnley not Barcelona. I do think you have to be at the game to know if they played well. If there not on TV how the fuck are are you going to judge them? Going off Adrian Durham's opinion on talk sport? I think you need a lie down and get off the crack pipe you have been smoking. Idiot. You do realise that you can watch every single Premier league game live by this wonderful thing that is the internet its not like you have to wait for MOTD.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2017 9:00:37 GMT
It is. People take it far too seriously. It's like the pub and I'd happily call Hughes a useless cunt to mates in the pub. I don't see why it should be different here. He can take it but he never should even see it and if he does more fool him. I've already explained why it's different on here. Despite what you may think, you don't own or run The Oatcake. Have you? I missed that sorry. I don't think it is though as long as it doesn't break the law. Which on the whole it doesn't.
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 9:02:20 GMT
I'd pay money to see you call Hughes a useless cunt to his face. How much Pugs? I'd do it. This weekend at west ham. Tell me what time he gets to the ground and where i need to be, fire £100 into my paypal and ill do it and record it. You can fuck off I'll do it for £50.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 14, 2017 9:04:06 GMT
My late father gave me advice which I've always carried with me - that if you're in the right you can afford to be civil, and if you're in the wrong you're a fool to be anything else. There are many things in football which make me angry and upset, but in my FSF and FA Council work, I ensure that I am always polite and never personal, both in writing and face to face. Whatever view one takes of the abilities of our manager and some of the players (who IMHO are doing their best even if it isn't good enough) I think that some of the language I've read today on here and elsewhere directed at them, and in some cases at fellow fans who happen to take a different view, is distasteful and deplorable, and at least as far as I'm concerned, detracts significantly from the points being made. It is an unfortunate feature of modern social media that some people use it to express themselves in terms which I suspect they wouldn't ever do face to face, behind the anonymity of a username. I think the verbal and emotional outpouring is a combination of the internet anonymity and a "Fever Pitch" emotional fetishisation of the club by many posters. I am in no way excusing it though. The club, as a collective whole, is performing poorly and well below expectations, and significantly below many dreams and aspirations. Indeed the cruelty of our past success of Stokelona was exposed by Burnley who have exceeded this through sheer determination and doggedness. They have out-Stoked Stoke. Accordingly this gives rise to anger and a desire to blame. We have lost all our identity. What many forget is that Hughes and Coates are just men, privileged and positioned as they are and yet as seemingly helpless as the rest of us to address this hapless slide. I'm sure neither they nor the players wish to be failures, despite earning riches either way. It's far more pleasant to be a winner than a loser, rich or poor. I understand the frustration but I think we should express this on the board with a filter of decency. It's all getting a bit much both on and off the pitch isn't it? It's times like these I wish we held some of the old-fashioned reserve we were once credited or condemned to as a nation. Outstanding post Sir Well said. Some of the nasty vicious spiteful posts tell you a lot more about the posters than the subject they're posting on. And they've been posting their Anti Stoke bile for months & months at ANY opportunity. Stoke fans? Pond life morelike.
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Post by thegift on Dec 14, 2017 9:05:51 GMT
I've already explained why it's different on here. Despite what you may think, you don't own or run The Oatcake. Have you? I missed that sorry. I don't think it is though as long as it doesn't break the law. Which on the whole it doesn't. This board reminds me at times of a similar position stoke are in at the moment.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 14, 2017 9:18:11 GMT
It's difficult though isn't it. Losing 5-1 hurts and players not giving a flying fuck really hurts. You then see one of the players who didn't give a fuck celebrating that hammering with his former colleagues all over social media and you get what you got on Sunday, a bit of an explosion. This forum is (along with boozers and the ground itself) an obvious outlet for the consequent pyrotechnics.
I'm not sure what sort of language you can expect. I can still remember my first visit to the Boothen, still smell it and remember all the sights and sounds that got me hooked. You soon realised that the language of football had a life of its own, the rules, whether you like it or not, were a bit different to real life.
'That was bad form, Kevin you rotter, did you not think how it might look to us supporters' or 'Mark these past two years have been unbearable, I really think your time is up old chum' is not the language of football, vitriol is the language of football and every now and then that vitriol is turned on your own.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2017 11:03:44 GMT
It's difficult though isn't it. Losing 5-1 hurts and players not giving a flying fuck really hurts. You then see one of the players who didn't give a fuck celebrating that hammering with his former colleagues all over social media and you get what you got on Sunday, a bit of an explosion. This forum is (along with boozers and the ground itself) an obvious outlet for the consequent pyrotechnics. I'm not sure what sort of language you can expect. I can still remember my first visit to the Boothen, still smell it and remember all the sights and sounds that got me hooked. You soon realised that the language of football had a life of its own, the rules, whether you like it or not, were a bit different to real life. 'That was bad form, Kevin you rotter, did you not think how it might look to us supporters' or 'Mark these past two years have been unbearable, I really think your time is up old chum' is not the language of football, vitriol is the language of football and every now and then that vitriol is turned on your own. Indeed! I'm still intrigued as to what the poster above would think he'd get chucked out for shouting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 12:18:15 GMT
I think the verbal and emotional outpouring is a combination of the internet anonymity and a "Fever Pitch" emotional fetishisation of the club by many posters. I am in no way excusing it though. The club, as a collective whole, is performing poorly and well below expectations, and significantly below many dreams and aspirations. Indeed the cruelty of our past success of Stokelona was exposed by Burnley who have exceeded this through sheer determination and doggedness. They have out-Stoked Stoke. Accordingly this gives rise to anger and a desire to blame. We have lost all our identity. What many forget is that Hughes and Coates are just men, privileged and positioned as they are and yet as seemingly helpless as the rest of us to address this hapless slide. I'm sure neither they nor the players wish to be failures, despite earning riches either way. It's far more pleasant to be a winner than a loser, rich or poor. I understand the frustration but I think we should express this on the board with a filter of decency. It's all getting a bit much both on and off the pitch isn't it? It's times like these I wish we held some of the old-fashioned reserve we were once credited or condemned to as a nation. What a load of old baloney. If the Coates' don't like being losers they might want to look at the hundred and odd million they took from bet365 in dividends let alone executive salaries in this year alone and ask themselves why they didn't do more to help the club compete with its peers. And why the fuck do you want to live in the past where these reserved stuffed shirts might have been very polite whilst they were slaughtering each other in their millions. Give me an age where people express themselves more freely any day. There was a time when some posh privileged twat would blow a whistle and send men out into a hail of machine gun fire or worse. Give the young people a gun nowadays and they've got enough sense to shoot the posh twat with the whistle before he blows it. Believe me there is no-one more than I that resents the wealthy and privileged. I find it unbelievably unjust that hard working people at the bottom of the pyramid of society get the roughest deal while the elite have the rules weighted to their favour. What I would like to inject into the argument is humanity. Like other posters have said they, Coates and Hughes share equal responsibility for this debacle. All I am urging is restraint in the violent speech and, should it ever occur, actions. We're all disappointed with this season and the last. I agree wholeheartedly that we should voice our unhappiness at the pair of them but let's just keep it in check. As others have said they're not murders or rapists. I try to exercise restraint and choose my language carefully because I am by nature highly emotional. Each to their own though and I respect that you feel people should be allowed to express how they feel, all i am suggesting is we keep it in perspective 👍😇
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 12:19:56 GMT
I think the verbal and emotional outpouring is a combination of the internet anonymity and a "Fever Pitch" emotional fetishisation of the club by many posters. I am in no way excusing it though. The club, as a collective whole, is performing poorly and well below expectations, and significantly below many dreams and aspirations. Indeed the cruelty of our past success of Stokelona was exposed by Burnley who have exceeded this through sheer determination and doggedness. They have out-Stoked Stoke. Accordingly this gives rise to anger and a desire to blame. We have lost all our identity. What many forget is that Hughes and Coates are just men, privileged and positioned as they are and yet as seemingly helpless as the rest of us to address this hapless slide. I'm sure neither they nor the players wish to be failures, despite earning riches either way. It's far more pleasant to be a winner than a loser, rich or poor. I understand the frustration but I think we should express this on the board with a filter of decency. It's all getting a bit much both on and off the pitch isn't it? It's times like these I wish we held some of the old-fashioned reserve we were once credited or condemned to as a nation. Outstanding post Sir Well said. Some of the nasty vicious spiteful posts tell you a lot more about the posters than the subject they're posting on. And they've been posting their Anti Stoke bile for months & months at ANY opportunity. Stoke fans? Pond life morelike. I think we should write online as we would or would prefer to conduct ourselves in real life. As Malcolm says, civility costs nothing 👍😬😇
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2017 12:20:42 GMT
It's difficult though isn't it. Losing 5-1 hurts and players not giving a flying fuck really hurts. You then see one of the players who didn't give a fuck celebrating that hammering with his former colleagues all over social media and you get what you got on Sunday, a bit of an explosion. This forum is (along with boozers and the ground itself) an obvious outlet for the consequent pyrotechnics. I'm not sure what sort of language you can expect. I can still remember my first visit to the Boothen, still smell it and remember all the sights and sounds that got me hooked. You soon realised that the language of football had a life of its own, the rules, whether you like it or not, were a bit different to real life. 'That was bad form, Kevin you rotter, did you not think how it might look to us supporters' or 'Mark these past two years have been unbearable, I really think your time is up old chum' is not the language of football, vitriol is the language of football and every now and then that vitriol is turned on your own. I get what you mean but typing something on a keyboard is different to shouting something in the heat of the moment. We’re all attention seekers in our own way or we wouldn’t be posting on here but, for me, there’s something fucked up when people are calling Hughes a cunt, mutant etc. Typing something takes time. More thought is involved than screaming something at a match which is spontaneous and emotional. Equally when you scream abuse at the match it’s gone as soon as you say it, unless you’re recorded. When you post it here it’s there for good. And seen by hundreds rather than heard by a few. There’s a world of difference in my opinion.
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 12:33:44 GMT
What a load of old baloney. If the Coates' don't like being losers they might want to look at the hundred and odd million they took from bet365 in dividends let alone executive salaries in this year alone and ask themselves why they didn't do more to help the club compete with its peers. And why the fuck do you want to live in the past where these reserved stuffed shirts might have been very polite whilst they were slaughtering each other in their millions. Give me an age where people express themselves more freely any day. There was a time when some posh privileged twat would blow a whistle and send men out into a hail of machine gun fire or worse. Give the young people a gun nowadays and they've got enough sense to shoot the posh twat with the whistle before he blows it. Believe me there is no-one more than I that resents the wealthy and privileged. I find it unbelievably unjust that hard working people at the bottom of the pyramid of society get the roughest deal while the elite have the rules weighted to their favour. What I would like to inject into the argument is humanity. Like other posters have said they, Coates and Hughes share equal responsibility for this debacle. All I am urging is restraint in the violent speech and, should it ever occur, actions. We're all disappointed with this season and the last. I agree wholeheartedly that we should voice our unhappiness at the pair of them but let's just keep it in check. As others have said they're not murders or rapists. I try to exercise restraint and choose my language carefully because I am by nature highly emotional. Each to their own though and I respect that you feel people should be allowed to express how they feel, all i am suggesting is we keep it in perspective 👍😇 I think it depends how you're used to talking and the environment you are used to operating in as to how shocking you find the abuse and language used to abuse. I spent my young adulthood on factories around Stoke and the rest of my adult working life working in prisons. To me its just the normal run of the mill way people talk to one another and treat one another. Mostly no one dies so its just words and venting I think maybe if you took it all seriously you would find it quite concerning.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2017 12:35:30 GMT
Believe me there is no-one more than I that resents the wealthy and privileged. I find it unbelievably unjust that hard working people at the bottom of the pyramid of society get the roughest deal while the elite have the rules weighted to their favour. What I would like to inject into the argument is humanity. Like other posters have said they, Coates and Hughes share equal responsibility for this debacle. All I am urging is restraint in the violent speech and, should it ever occur, actions. We're all disappointed with this season and the last. I agree wholeheartedly that we should voice our unhappiness at the pair of them but let's just keep it in check. As others have said they're not murders or rapists. I try to exercise restraint and choose my language carefully because I am by nature highly emotional. Each to their own though and I respect that you feel people should be allowed to express how they feel, all i am suggesting is we keep it in perspective 👍😇 I think it depends how you're used to talking and the environment you are used to operating in as to how shocking you find the abuse and language used to abuse. I spent my young adulthood on factories around Stoke and the rest of my adult working life working in prisons. To me its just the normal run of the mill way people talk to one another and treat one another. Mostly no one dies so its just words and venting I think maybe if you took it all seriously you would find it quite concerning. I’ve worked in similar environments and discovered that it’s mostly people who call others cunts etc that are, ironically, cunts themselves .
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 12:37:11 GMT
It's difficult though isn't it. Losing 5-1 hurts and players not giving a flying fuck really hurts. You then see one of the players who didn't give a fuck celebrating that hammering with his former colleagues all over social media and you get what you got on Sunday, a bit of an explosion. This forum is (along with boozers and the ground itself) an obvious outlet for the consequent pyrotechnics. I'm not sure what sort of language you can expect. I can still remember my first visit to the Boothen, still smell it and remember all the sights and sounds that got me hooked. You soon realised that the language of football had a life of its own, the rules, whether you like it or not, were a bit different to real life. 'That was bad form, Kevin you rotter, did you not think how it might look to us supporters' or 'Mark these past two years have been unbearable, I really think your time is up old chum' is not the language of football, vitriol is the language of football and every now and then that vitriol is turned on your own. I get what you mean but typing something on a keyboard is different to shouting something in the heat of the moment. We’re all attention seekers in our own way or we wouldn’t be posting on here but, for me, there’s something fucked up when people are calling Hughes a cunt, mutant etc. Typing something takes time. More thought is involved than screaming something at a match which is spontaneous and emotional. Equally when you scream abuse at the match it’s gone as soon as you say it, unless you’re recorded. When you post it here it’s there for good. And seen by hundreds rather than heard by a few. There’s a world of difference in my opinion. Doesn't have to be you can always delete it if you decide it was out of order. I've done it a few times but most of the time I just decide people need to man up a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2017 12:38:44 GMT
Believe me there is no-one more than I that resents the wealthy and privileged. I find it unbelievably unjust that hard working people at the bottom of the pyramid of society get the roughest deal while the elite have the rules weighted to their favour. What I would like to inject into the argument is humanity. Like other posters have said they, Coates and Hughes share equal responsibility for this debacle. All I am urging is restraint in the violent speech and, should it ever occur, actions. We're all disappointed with this season and the last. I agree wholeheartedly that we should voice our unhappiness at the pair of them but let's just keep it in check. As others have said they're not murders or rapists. I try to exercise restraint and choose my language carefully because I am by nature highly emotional. Each to their own though and I respect that you feel people should be allowed to express how they feel, all i am suggesting is we keep it in perspective 👍😇 I think it depends how you're used to talking and the environment you are used to operating in as to how shocking you find the abuse and language used to abuse. I spent my young adulthood on factories around Stoke and the rest of my adult working life working in prisons. To me its just the normal run of the mill way people talk to one another and treat one another. Mostly no one dies so its just words and venting I think maybe if you took it all seriously you would find it quite concerning. Agreed mate. I spent seven years down the pit from 16 to 23 and I've been called far worse to my face than what has been on the boards aimed at the shambolic duo. I'd much rather have abuse screamed at me than a beating, although I'd prefer neither 😀 There's always some lunatic though who goes too far in the social media or real life (see Jo Cox) We need to let the board (PC) know how we feel because we're shelling out good money and getting little back. I'm sure they don't read the Oatcake ha 😇👍
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2017 12:39:50 GMT
I get what you mean but typing something on a keyboard is different to shouting something in the heat of the moment. We’re all attention seekers in our own way or we wouldn’t be posting on here but, for me, there’s something fucked up when people are calling Hughes a cunt, mutant etc. Typing something takes time. More thought is involved than screaming something at a match which is spontaneous and emotional. Equally when you scream abuse at the match it’s gone as soon as you say it, unless you’re recorded. When you post it here it’s there for good. And seen by hundreds rather than heard by a few. There’s a world of difference in my opinion. Doesn't have to be you can always delete it if you decide it was out of order. I've done it a few times but most of the time I just decide people need to man up a bit. Manning up is calling other people cunts via the anonymity of social media? Seriously?
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 12:41:46 GMT
I think it depends how you're used to talking and the environment you are used to operating in as to how shocking you find the abuse and language used to abuse. I spent my young adulthood on factories around Stoke and the rest of my adult working life working in prisons. To me its just the normal run of the mill way people talk to one another and treat one another. Mostly no one dies so its just words and venting I think maybe if you took it all seriously you would find it quite concerning. I’ve worked in similar environments and discovered that it’s mostly people who call others cunts etc that are, ironically, cunts themselves . Well I've said worse and had worse said to me. Its normally water under the bridge a few hours later or the next day. Its a fairly modern concept all this being offended shite.
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Post by alster on Dec 14, 2017 12:46:27 GMT
Doesn't have to be you can always delete it if you decide it was out of order. I've done it a few times but most of the time I just decide people need to man up a bit. Manning up is calling other people cunts via the anonymity of social media? Seriously? No I personally have a policy of never saying anything online that I wouldn't say in person but there again as a person I can be verbally quite brutal. I really don't get all this wouldn't say it to his face crap I've been doing it for the best part of 50 years and not getting smashed up on a regular basis. There again I have been smashed up enough times in my life that once more wouldn't be a big deal.
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Post by gregstokie on Dec 14, 2017 12:46:27 GMT
Don’t sweat it everyone. Team America teaches us all that there are 3 different people in this world....
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Post by thegift on Dec 14, 2017 12:52:01 GMT
I’ve worked in similar environments and discovered that it’s mostly people who call others cunts etc that are, ironically, cunts themselves . Well I've said worse and had worse said to me. Its normally water under the bridge a few hours later or the next day. Its a fairly modern concept all this being offended shite. If your offended at being called a cunt, yes you do need to man up imo.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 14, 2017 12:53:06 GMT
Doesn't have to be you can always delete it if you decide it was out of order. I've done it a few times but most of the time I just decide people need to man up a bit. Manning up is calling other people cunts via the anonymity of social media? Seriously? I think it does show how thinned skinned someone is and the first person I can think of is Cameron. He clearly searches his name on Twitter and looked on here. Why would you do that? You're asking for trouble.
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