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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 22, 2017 13:55:20 GMT
Oh I don't doubt that some think giving him a loan to get his mojo back might be a good idea, but Is just pure BS. I'm fairly certain as someone has pointed out above the OP has forgot that there is no longer a loan market. I have no idea tbh, I've only seen people on here mention it and if that constitutes Stoke looking at it then yes that is BS. I presumed he meant in January tbh. Thing is though Bayern the OP says specifically that he's 'heard rumours' and 'seen on Twitter' where STOKE are 'potentially thinking' about loaning Berahino out. Not that people on here (or anywhere else for that matter) are talking about it but that the club themselves are thinking about it. It is therefore completely made up bullshit as the club simply wouldn't be contemplating such a ridiculous move even if they could. How the fuck do you 'potentially think' about something anyway?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2017 14:58:33 GMT
I have no idea tbh, I've only seen people on here mention it and if that constitutes Stoke looking at it then yes that is BS. I presumed he meant in January tbh. Thing is though Bayern the OP says specifically that he's 'heard rumours' and 'seen on Twitter' where STOKE are 'potentially thinking' about loaning Berahino out. Not that people on here (or anywhere else for that matter) are talking about it but that the club themselves are thinking about it. It is therefore completely made up bullshit as the club simply wouldn't be contemplating such a ridiculous move even if they could. How the fuck do you 'potentially think' about something anyway? Maybe he has? And wouldn't they? We did with Imbula if the money was right. I don't think it's too far fetched.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 15:03:42 GMT
Its the manager not the player. Even Joselu looks ten times the player now than he was at stoke. He certainly looked good missing 3 sitters last week....
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2017 15:07:15 GMT
Its the manager not the player. Even Joselu looks ten times the player now than he was at stoke. And for all his faults, he is the right type of striker for the 3-4-3 system Hughes employs...mobile.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 22, 2017 15:08:27 GMT
Its the manager not the player. Even Joselu looks ten times the player now than he was at stoke. He certainly looked good missing 3 sitters last week.... One game. Diouf and Crouch have had games like that, too. Berahino, also.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 22, 2017 15:16:32 GMT
Joselu would look good for a game, be given 2 more and then look utter shite in them.
He's an ok player but his signing was always weird.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 15:20:20 GMT
I liked Joselu but the answer, as far as I'm concerned, is chances created or the lack of them.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 22, 2017 15:36:20 GMT
Thing is though Bayern the OP says specifically that he's 'heard rumours' and 'seen on Twitter' where STOKE are 'potentially thinking' about loaning Berahino out. Not that people on here (or anywhere else for that matter) are talking about it but that the club themselves are thinking about it. It is therefore completely made up bullshit as the club simply wouldn't be contemplating such a ridiculous move even if they could. How the fuck do you 'potentially think' about something anyway? Maybe he has? And wouldn't they? We did with Imbula if the money was right. I don't think it's too far fetched. Down the line may be if he continues to misfire. But not yet clearly unless of course he is another Imbula and can't be arsed in training either. Then the finger should be well and truly pointed at the recruitment team for failing to check potential signings' background and character (I'm sure that's not down to LMH). From what I've seen of him he seems to be trying. That's why I'm bemused why he wasn't given a full game against Rochdale and Bristol City and a couple of games in the U23's to try and spark him into life. Got to be worth trying something. It#s not going to happen on the bench.
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Post by stantheman on Sept 22, 2017 16:34:36 GMT
This thread was started by those immortal words
'I've heard rumours that'.........
So nothing in it and I wouldn't be surprised if our Saido starts on Saturday
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Post by britvic72 on Sept 22, 2017 16:50:08 GMT
This thread was started by those immortal words 'I've heard rumours that'......... So nothing in it and I wouldn't be surprised if our Saido starts on Saturday And the immortal WUM BaO 😡
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Post by kustokie on Sept 22, 2017 17:25:52 GMT
I still think that the system has a lot to do with it. Our forwards seem to struggle Tbf aguero would struggle to score goals for us. The ball needs to go down the middle a bit more rather than out to the wings all the time. Just my thoughts though Cobblers. Choupo-Moting scored from two crosses from the wing against one of the best teams in the league. Berahino is too lightweight to succeed in this league. Pulis knew it and Hughes was too stubborn to accept it.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 22, 2017 17:29:56 GMT
I still think that the system has a lot to do with it. Our forwards seem to struggle Tbf aguero would struggle to score goals for us. The ball needs to go down the middle a bit more rather than out to the wings all the time. Just my thoughts though Cobblers. Choupo-Moting scored from two crosses from the wing against one of the best teams in the league. Berahino is too lightweight to succeed in this league. Pulis knew it and Hughes was too stubborn to accept it. What does Pulis know about strikers?
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Post by s7oke on Sept 22, 2017 17:32:23 GMT
I still think that the system has a lot to do with it. Our forwards seem to struggle Tbf aguero would struggle to score goals for us. The ball needs to go down the middle a bit more rather than out to the wings all the time. Just my thoughts though Cobblers. Choupo-Moting scored from two crosses from the wing against one of the best teams in the league. Berahino is too lightweight to succeed in this league. Pulis knew it and Hughes was too stubborn to accept it. Two against united we'll I suppose two goals from crosses In one game makes up for not scoring any in the previous high percentage of games doesn't it !!!
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Post by s7oke on Sept 22, 2017 17:42:25 GMT
Cobblers. Choupo-Moting scored from two crosses from the wing against one of the best teams in the league. Berahino is too lightweight to succeed in this league. Pulis knew it and Hughes was too stubborn to accept it. What does Pulis know about strikers? Bugger all 😁
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 22, 2017 17:51:45 GMT
If we accept that Saido is not fit for purpose as a lone striker, then who should we go for in January? He needs to be big and strong, yet mobile, and with a decent scoring record.
For me, Vincent Aboubakar at Porto would fit the bill perfectly - 25 years old, a powerfully built 6 footer with an improving goal output (already 5 in 6 this season). 15/20m may get him, which is well within our price range. The only stumbling block could be Porto's reluctant to deal with us after the success of our Bruno pursuit, or they may see a chance to fleece us in another Imbula-like mugging!
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 22, 2017 18:04:14 GMT
I have no doubts that Berahino is a quality front line player! I was certainly impressed when he linked with Jese for his first goal at the club. These two could certainly do some damage but then of course Shaqiri or Choupo have to be sacrificed and team shape becomes a problem. Berahino will not score if he is not played!
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Post by Fegg 'Ayes Observer on Sept 23, 2017 7:08:13 GMT
The useless fecker is probably on 80 grand a week and spends half of it on substances, legal highs and booze. Get rid of the cant I say. Fecking Baggies really saw us coming and must be laffin all the way to el banco wif our £15m or whatever it was. Arthur Scargill was a better feckin striker than Berahino.
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Post by nutterpotter on Sept 23, 2017 7:24:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2017 8:23:52 GMT
The useless fecker is probably on 80 grand a week and spends half of it on substances, legal highs and booze. Get rid of the cant I say. Fecking Baggies really saw us coming and must be laffin all the way to el banco wif our £15m or whatever it was. Arthur Scargill was a better feckin striker than Berahino. Every one of your posts is about Berahino, weirdo.
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Post by silverdollar on Sept 23, 2017 8:26:27 GMT
The useless fecker is probably on 80 grand a week and spends half of it on substances, legal highs and booze. Get rid of the cant I say. Fecking Baggies really saw us coming and must be laffin all the way to el banco wif our £15m or whatever it was. Arthur Scargill was a better feckin striker than Berahino. Spend less time trying to be a comedian and put your brain into gear!
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 23, 2017 9:02:36 GMT
I really don't think Saido looks half as bad as is being suggested.
Sure, he hasn't scored, and that needs to change, but it's not like he's been totally shit. He's put in some good performances.
One of our club's great strengths is patience. Not every player will be fabulous from the first second of game time.
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Post by bathstoke on Sept 23, 2017 9:20:50 GMT
Cobblers. Choupo-Moting scored from two crosses from the wing against one of the best teams in the league. Berahino is too lightweight to succeed in this league. Pulis knew it and Hughes was too stubborn to accept it. Two against united we'll I suppose two goals from crosses In one game makes up for not scoring any in the previous high percentage of games doesn't it !!! Ive wondered whether we've become a bit of a one trick pony with out crosses into the box. Seemed all we did on Tues...
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 23, 2017 9:52:38 GMT
The useless fecker is probably on 80 grand a week and spends half of it on substances, legal highs and booze. Get rid of the cant I say. Fecking Baggies really saw us coming and must be laffin all the way to el banco wif our £15m or whatever it was. Arthur Scargill was a better feckin striker than Berahino. Hey up Throstle. You going The Arse on Monday or would you rather spend your time trolling on here over a player you supposedly 'scammed' us out of £15m for? Why the fixation?
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 23, 2017 10:01:29 GMT
I really don't think Saido looks half as bad as is being suggested. Sure, he hasn't scored, and that needs to change, but it's not like he's been totally shit. He's put in some good performances. One of our club's great strengths is patience. Not every player will be fabulous from the first second of game time. I agree he hasn't looked too bad in his overall play, but he still doesn't score goals! As long as he doesn't we need someone else, it's as simple as that really!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 23, 2017 10:13:39 GMT
I really don't think Saido looks half as bad as is being suggested. Sure, he hasn't scored, and that needs to change, but it's not like he's been totally shit. He's put in some good performances. One of our club's great strengths is patience. Not every player will be fabulous from the first second of game time. I agree he hasn't looked too bad in his overall play, but he still doesn't score goals! As long as he doesn't we need someone else, it's as simple as that really! He hasn't had the chances, how many times!!
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 23, 2017 10:23:01 GMT
I agree he hasn't looked too bad in his overall play, but he still doesn't score goals! As long as he doesn't we need someone else, it's as simple as that really! He hasn't had the chances, how many times!! He played the last 10 games last season and a lot of friendlies without showing much ability of putting the ball in the onion bag (just one in a friendly). All our other options seem able to score a goal now and then even if they have been given fewer chances than Berahino. In my opinion those who deliver the goods should be preferred when picking the team.
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Post by armitagestokie on Sept 23, 2017 10:27:28 GMT
Join Unite plenty of out of work strikers in Brum.
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Post by iglugluk on Sept 23, 2017 10:29:37 GMT
I agree he hasn't looked too bad in his overall play, but he still doesn't score goals! As long as he doesn't we need someone else, it's as simple as that really! He hasn't had the chances, how many times!! He had 2 very good chances against Bristol City and badly fluffed both of them. There has clearly been a problem with Saido since we got him. Hopefully he comes good but if he does it'll have been a very long wait.
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Post by GoBoks on Sept 23, 2017 10:29:42 GMT
Of Berahino goes out on loan then Hughes should be sacked. Why? Because a signing did not work out? Using that logic almost every club would change managers at least once every year.
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Post by banx10 on Sept 23, 2017 10:36:40 GMT
Week is a long time in football,
Almost 10 months is a life time.
Still only 24 but he's mentally finished.
Like Michael Ricketts etc, they just can't do it after a certain age, especially with all the money nowadays. What has he got to motivate him?
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