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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 1, 2017 12:45:23 GMT
Numerous internationals and Champions League winners. Are we too good to go down at the expense of the likes of Brighton, Huddersfield, Swansea, Burnley and Watford?
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Post by BuzzB on Aug 1, 2017 12:47:19 GMT
no
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Post by wingy11 on Aug 1, 2017 12:47:26 GMT
Not at all bad start is on the cards,with the start we have and without the work horses and old guard is the team capable of coming from a bad position thats the question.
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Post by Stokyo on Aug 1, 2017 12:49:50 GMT
No, question is are we good enough to stay up, shaky defense and no goals coming up front could spell disaster.
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Post by alster on Aug 1, 2017 12:49:55 GMT
Have you been watching us? We're not very good at all.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 1, 2017 12:50:34 GMT
Have you been watching us? We're not very good at all. A couple of points off 8th last season. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 1, 2017 12:52:33 GMT
I think it's more, 'are we good enough to stay up'
I'm not so sure.
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Post by Gods on Aug 1, 2017 12:52:53 GMT
No definitely not, we flirted with it last season and take Arnie, Bruno, Walters, Whelan and Bardo out of that team and we can definitely pull it off, quite comfortably I would suggest. The brutal first 8 fixtures don't help either, say we get only 3 or 4 points out of those and at the same time 2 or 3 regulation 4 goal spankings right out of last seasons collection and we would not only be bottom but without that precious commodity 'momentum'. This season could unravel very quickly. (Just read that back, it's kind of like Benji with some marginally improved spelling and grammar  ) |
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Post by mickmacc on Aug 1, 2017 12:52:58 GMT
As we stand we are significantly weaker than last year. Unless we buy and buy well we will flirt with relegation.
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Post by Sfance on Aug 1, 2017 12:53:19 GMT
I think with the players we have we SHOULD be too good to go down, but with Hughes managing those players, given what he's shown over the last 18 months, I think there's every chance we will be in the mix. As someone said on a different thread, we are likely to find ourselves in a mini-league of 5 or 6 scrapping it out at the bottom. For the life of me, I don't see how Coates can't see that.
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Post by alster on Aug 1, 2017 12:57:31 GMT
Have you been watching us? We're not very good at all. A couple of points off 8th last season. I watch football not league tables. You want to put a positive spin on it that's your perogative but for me we were pretty dire. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 1, 2017 12:58:55 GMT
A couple of points off 8th last season. I watch football not league tables. You want to put a positive spin on it that's your perogative but for me we were pretty dire. we were but so were everybody from 8th downwards I don't see the bottom 10 being any better this season than last |
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Post by wingy11 on Aug 1, 2017 13:00:37 GMT
A couple of points off 8th last season. I watch football not league tables. You want to put a positive spin on it that's your perogative but for me we were pretty dire. Defo been boring now for over 18 months no excitement at all think the last time i felt buzzed was when we beat liverpool 6-1 |
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Post by skelman on Aug 1, 2017 13:03:38 GMT
Numerous internationals and Champions League winners. Are we too good to go down at the expense of the likes of Brighton, Huddersfield, Swansea, Burnley and Watford? We will be when all this 'monitoring' has stopped, the 'apples have dropped', negotiations have been 'wrapped up' and 'everything has fallen into place'! Waiting with baited breath!  |
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Post by Gods on Aug 1, 2017 13:03:48 GMT
Have you been watching us? We're not very good at all. A couple of points off 8th last season. The question was about relegation and we spent large chunks of last season within 5 or 6 points of the drop line. The teams were very bunched, it wouldn't take more than a light gust of wind to take us over the edge. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 1, 2017 13:03:53 GMT
Are we fuck too good to go down, we've been shite for over a year and a half. As it stands I'd be asking "are we good enough to stay up", that's far more of a head scratcher unless Hughes and the transfer team pull their fingers out of their arse-holes and actually do some fucking work.
I know there's still essentially a month left of the window but FFS, as if the opening quarter of the season isn't going to be hard enough whilst still waiting for new arrivals to bed in etc.
I'd never in a million years tempt fate by saying we're too good to go down, even at the top of our game, I certainly wouldn't say it here and now.
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Post by mattador78 on Aug 1, 2017 13:05:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2017 13:05:57 GMT
Have you been watching us? We're not very good at all. A couple of points off 8th last season. And only 10 points above safety. The massive gulf between top 6 and everyone else, maybe bar Everton, is just massive. And sadly we appear to be going backwards at an alarming rate, and our activity this window so far has been very discouraging to say the least. I hate the state of affairs when we stay up because others are so poor, I'd much rather stay up cuz we are so good. |
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2017 13:09:45 GMT
YAWN
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Post by thebet365 on Aug 1, 2017 13:20:52 GMT
A couple of points off 8th last season. The question was about relegation and we spent large chunks of last season within 5 or 6 points of the drop line. The teams were very bunched, it wouldn't take more than a light gust of wind to take us over the edge. Is this what we call a "Knicker wetter's rewriting of history" ? Once we got over our bad start last year we pulled 5 points clear of 18th in Gameweek 10, that dropped to 3 points in weeks 11 & 12 then back to 5 points in week 13 and then upto 8 points in week 14. We then stayed between 7 and 12 points clear of the line for the rest of the season. As shit as we were, we were only ever theoretically at risk of getting sucked into a relegation battle if several teams turned from relegation candidates into title winning form. |
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Post by lowlands on Aug 1, 2017 13:22:41 GMT
Last time I genuinely heard the comment 'they are too good to go down' was Brian Cloughs Nottingham Forest in 92-93 season.
No such thing as too good to go down, you finish where you deserve
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Aug 1, 2017 13:27:00 GMT
The thread should read are we good enough to stay up. Answer no.
We flirted with the bottom 3 last season & have been in decline for 18 months or more we are weak at the back we lack a beast in the midfield & we can,t score goals. We have sold the most creative player we had & lost a player in Walters who you could rely on to upset defences.
So unless there are some key signings before deadline day its going to be a very hard slog.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Aug 1, 2017 13:32:40 GMT
Yes.
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 1, 2017 13:42:15 GMT
Of course not! Ask any Villa or Newcastle fan.If you dont invest continually each season, you will eventually go through the trapdoor to another indefinite period of obscurity!
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Post by Cast no shadow on Aug 1, 2017 13:55:41 GMT
Any teams other than the top 7 are capable of going down...
And our regression the last 20 months doesnt bode well.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 1, 2017 14:01:52 GMT
Football is littered with clubs who were too good to go down, but went down anyway.
What worries me at the moment is, the past couple of seasons we have had very poor starts, but had the quality to get us out of trouble, we are expected to have a poor start yet again, so unless we bring in some quality we could be in a relegation battle.
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Post by parsonage1955 on Aug 1, 2017 15:02:40 GMT
Realistically, any three of the bottom 13 could drop. (I'd have excluded Southampton but they haven't been strengthening this summer either, have they?)
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Post by JetBlack on Aug 1, 2017 15:08:47 GMT
I hope so, even though Footy Accumulators on Fbook has us down to be in the bottom 3 by the end of August. here |
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Post by stokebloke on Aug 1, 2017 15:11:09 GMT
Why!? Seems like a reasonable question |
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 1, 2017 15:26:23 GMT
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