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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 13, 2017 11:33:18 GMT
Anyone's opinion changed following the match yesterday?
I was at a wedding so couldn't watch us but I always said last season that if we were matching the 7th best team in the league then we would be nowhere near relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 11:37:20 GMT
Anyone's opinion changed following the match yesterday? I was at a wedding so couldn't watch us but I always said last season that if we were matching the 7th best team in the league then we would be nowhere near relegation. I would say yes, but only if we can actually offer a consistent goal threat from match to match. If we continue to look as dour as we have done in recent matches, we won't finish higher than 10th, what with the increased quality elsewhere in the league. Get a strong CF and a box-to-boxer who can actually be arsed, and we'll be more than orate. Wingbacks would be lovely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 11:38:29 GMT
If i was koeman then I would be worried. He's assembling a very expensive squad which are bang average. Once they add gylfi as Well the chairman will expect results and imo he will be Out of a job around Xmas. Stoke were the better side and I'd be confident of finishing above them this season with the right additions
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 11:46:11 GMT
If anything, I'd say we edged the game over 90 minutes.
So if everyone's having them as a nailed-on 7th, we can't be too bad!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 13, 2017 11:50:39 GMT
Yeah, I came away feeling a lot more confident that we wouldn't be involved in a relegation scrap. We look to have a very solid core now and with BMI to come in that will only get better. It will all depend on how quickly he ditches Berahino. Sorry to keep banging on about it (and yeah some proper wing backs are probably key) but just add a half decent forward to that side and I think it's lower mid table at least.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 13, 2017 11:51:43 GMT
If we started to create chances it would be a start and if so we'll be fine but carry on the way the last 16 months of football have gone and we'll be bang in trouble
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Post by fca47 on Aug 13, 2017 11:52:19 GMT
If you can't score, you can't win, unless we address the making and taking of chances, it doesn't matter how good the rest of the team are, Everton are poor but the had someone who knows how to put the ball in the net.
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Post by liamo on Aug 13, 2017 11:52:42 GMT
If anything, I'd say we edged the game over 90 minutes. So if everyone's having them as a nailed-on 7th, we can't be too bad! That's what i think too, it's strange, a lot of Everton fans on reddit and twitter seem to think they destroyed us? Plus the media jizzfest over Rooney means they've managed to escape criticism They've spent nearly £100m and were bang average at home against a "weaker" Stoke team, i think we'll be fine with a few more signings in the right areas, more than fine in fact
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Post by duckling on Aug 13, 2017 11:53:00 GMT
Replicability is the key unknown. Every relegated team still has a few good games.
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 13, 2017 11:55:18 GMT
If anything, I'd say we edged the game over 90 minutes. So if everyone's having them as a nailed-on 7th, we can't be too bad! That's what i think too, it's strange, a lot of Everton fans on reddit and twitter seem to think they destroyed us? Plus the media jizzfest over Rooney means they've managed to escape criticism They've spent nearly £100m and were bang average at home against a "weaker" Stoke team, i think we'll be fine with a few more signings in the right areas, more than fine in fact I think people see what they want to see. I saw the buffoonish Collymore say something similar - because it fitted in with the story he had prepared in his head before kick-off. I thought we had a pretty clear edge all the way through the game. Neither team really tested the keeper at all though - can only recall the chance they had after Zouma's mistake other than the goal. We looked really solid all the way through.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 13, 2017 11:59:21 GMT
Could we go down? Definitely. Will we? Probably not. Thinking we're safe is just complacent. If Hughes is to remain at the helm he has to sort out our lack of goals and our creative deficits, though. A little bit ironic given what a lethal striker he was in his day, it has to be said.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 13, 2017 12:01:46 GMT
We weren't too good to go down before the match and we certainly aren't after it
We have no 'USP' any more - a team of average individuals hewn together through via a manager who isn't sure how he wants to play and clearly restricted financially due to previous financial mistakes
I don't see what Stoke City are anymore in terms of approach, attitude and identity
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Post by liamo on Aug 13, 2017 12:07:15 GMT
We weren't too good to go down before the match and we certainly aren't after it We have no 'USP' any more - a team of average individuals hewn together through via a manager who isn't sure how he wants to play and clearly restricted financially due to previous financial mistakes I don't see what Stoke City are anymore in terms of approach, attitude and identity Does that mean Everton are at risk too, even though they haven't been restricted financially? Because there was very little between the two teams yesterday and they've spent £100m, Rooney will pop up with a few goals but Sandro and Klassen looked crap to be completely honest From what i say yesterday we will be fine, we could definitely improve though obviously
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Post by robwahlmann on Aug 13, 2017 12:09:41 GMT
If we replace Bera with one of our other strikers I would say so, but if the manager insists on keeping a striker firing blanks on top we could of course end up in a relegation battle! Every team need to score some goals to stay up!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 13, 2017 12:12:02 GMT
I thought we edged it against them really. Zouma, Fletcher and Choupo look like good additions and add BMI to that defence and we're looking very solid.
Based on that game we look a better side than last year despite losing Arnautovic. Hopefully we can add a few new additions and really kick on.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 13, 2017 12:13:49 GMT
A couple of points off 8th last season. The question was about relegation and we spent large chunks of last season within 5 or 6 points of the drop line. The teams were very bunched, it wouldn't take more than a light gust of wind to take us over the edge. But that's kind of part and parcel of being a mid table premier league side which is what we are. It wouldnt take much to send any of the mid table teams down. All of us are looking over our shoulders at relegation. None of the club's have the money of the top 7. What concerns me is our recruitment. We don't have many assets within the squad. Butland, Shaqiri, maybe Joe Allen who can be sold to reinvest in the squad. A lot of the other clubs do.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 13, 2017 12:19:46 GMT
Good grief no. A team that hardly ever comes back from going a goal behind is never going to be safe. I don't think there were any shockingly weak teams on display yesterday - we have a fight on our hands every week.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 13, 2017 12:41:27 GMT
A lot of our play was ok yesterday , the worry is the inability to create chances and take them Everton were not great so one shot on target is not good and allows pressure to build on the defensive side of the team that if we go behind the game is lost . If we can't sort that side we must be st risk
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2017 12:44:25 GMT
Need some points on the board early to relax team and fans alike, and need a couple of goals in the bag also. But I was happy with our play in general and I'm still convinced there are 3 players coming in to replace Adam, Imbula and Crouch/Joselu.....
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Post by alster on Aug 13, 2017 12:44:28 GMT
We didn't score a goal. I would have thought if you don't score goals you have every chance of going down no matter how solid you make yourselves. You don't stay up on draws.
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Post by samba :) on Aug 13, 2017 12:48:26 GMT
This board would be completely different if it was us that got the lucky break
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Post by mattythestokie on Aug 13, 2017 12:49:00 GMT
Our defence SHOULD mean that we will avoid relegation.
Indi, Shawcross and Zouma in a back 3 will produce fine performances.
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Post by duckling on Aug 13, 2017 12:56:07 GMT
Last season Middlesbrough conceded few goals but went down because they scored even fewer. I can see the same happening with Stoke.
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Aug 13, 2017 12:57:02 GMT
Of course not. But we are better than at least 9/10 teams in this league on paper. And after yesterday, I am no more impressed with Everton than I already wasn't. They have overspent on a couple of (potential) one season wonders, and 2 (soon to be 3) number 10s as well as a striker who has never played in this league before. They have no first choice right back until Christmas, lost their top scorer and are likely to lose their most creative player. All they have done is increase the pressure on themselves without really improving their team. Janssen and we could easily finish above them. If we should be worried, so should they.
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 13, 2017 13:52:46 GMT
To good ? We wouldn't of scored if we was playing till next week with saido up front and looking at other teams this weekend we looked the worst
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Post by duckling on Aug 13, 2017 13:54:35 GMT
To good ? We wouldn't of scored if we was playing till next week with saido up front and looking at other teams this weekend we looked the worst Did you see Brighton and Palace?!
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Post by ashley luiz on Aug 13, 2017 13:57:16 GMT
To good ? We wouldn't of scored if we was playing till next week with saido up front and looking at other teams this weekend we looked the worst Did you see Brighton and Palace?! yep both teams had better chances to score then us . After all these years in the premiership we are still relying on other teams to be shitter then us . Pathetic
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Post by liamo on Aug 13, 2017 13:57:25 GMT
To good ? We wouldn't of scored if we was playing till next week with saido up front and looking at other teams this weekend we looked the worst We were equal to Everton, neither team created much though.. We haven't exactly got the easiest of starts, time will tell I guess
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Post by GrahamHyde on Aug 19, 2017 18:46:41 GMT
Thoughts after Arsenal game?
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Post by duckling on Aug 20, 2017 13:30:41 GMT
Thoughts after Arsenal game? I'm watching the Huddersfield Newcastle game. There are definitely at least 3 worse teams. So another mid-table finish it is.
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