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Post by werrington on Apr 8, 2017 18:29:34 GMT
Seriously ......no attacking threat no creativity etc etc
I'm totally fucking baffled by his exclusion and loan away from the club
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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 8, 2017 18:39:04 GMT
Well he's been banging them in for Mainz...
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Post by stokecitydom on Apr 8, 2017 18:57:00 GMT
Seriously ......no attacking threat no creativity etc etc I'm totally fucking baffled by his exclusion and loan away from the club Hughes seems to be trying to strip the team of any it of magic. Bojan has that ability to create something or find that pass. Imbula has the ability to drive past 3 or 4 men & do something. They both have their faults, but surely they cannot do any worse that what the rest are doing. Football is supposed to be entertainment. I really do not find it entertaining anymore and with the squad we have got we should be doing so much better. It's dross, predictable and boring. I'd get a new manager in at the end of the year, as I'm convinced a different manager would be able to get something out of the likes of Bojan, Imbula etc. I'd even bring Joselu back in, as he showed flashes of quality last season. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 8, 2017 19:02:01 GMT
Got the last 8 minutes for Mainz today in another loss, which now means they're only goal difference off 3rd bottom.
So his trials go on.....
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2017 19:04:39 GMT
Bamber isn't as bad as what we're seeing never mind Bojan!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2017 19:05:32 GMT
The answer to your question in no.
He's worse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:06:47 GMT
That performance vs Leicester at Home is what we could be, minus the collapse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:07:34 GMT
Seriously ......no attacking threat no creativity etc etc I'm totally fucking baffled by his exclusion and loan away from the club I don't care how well he is doing or how well he isn't doing in Germany. Nobody can convince me that it was the right decision to let him go because he definitely would have contributed more than any of the other players who have had his shirt since he left. His refusal to find a place for Affeley is also baffling me to fuck. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:07:46 GMT
Werrington. No mate he isn't. He isn't any worse than what we are seeing. Neither are some of the young lads we have.
Joselu isn't any worse than what we have either.
They have been brought into the club and driven away at the first sign of trouble.
It is completely baffling and i would pay more than a penny for the Chairman's thoughts.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 8, 2017 19:08:12 GMT
Seriously ......no attacking threat no creativity etc etc I'm totally fucking baffled by his exclusion and loan away from the club Hughes seems to be trying to strip the team of any it of magic. Bojan has that ability to create something or find that pass. Imbula has the ability to drive past 3 or 4 men & do something. They both have their faults, but surely they cannot do any worse that what the rest are doing. Football is supposed to be entertainment. I really do not find it entertaining anymore and with the squad we have got we should be doing so much better. It's dross, predictable and boring. I'd get a new manager in at the end of the year, as I'm convinced a different manager would be able to get something out of the likes of Bojan, Imbula etc. I'd even bring Joselu back in, as he showed flashes of quality last season. yes Shaq and Arny have no magic!! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2017 19:10:14 GMT
The answer to your question in no. He's worse. Would we be better with him? Open to debate. Are we any fucking better without him? Are we shit and this is evidence of the managers increasingly puddled mind. He truly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2017 19:10:29 GMT
Werrington. No mate he isn't. He isn't any worse than what we are seeing. Neither are some of the young lads we have. Joselu isn't any worse than what we have either. They have been brought into the club and driven away at the first sign of trouble. It is completely baffling and i would pay more than a penny for the Chairman's thoughts. He hasn't featured on a winning team all season. We even lost the u23 game he played. Therein lies the answer |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:13:19 GMT
Werrington. No mate he isn't. He isn't any worse than what we are seeing. Neither are some of the young lads we have. Joselu isn't any worse than what we have either. They have been brought into the club and driven away at the first sign of trouble. It is completely baffling and i would pay more than a penny for the Chairman's thoughts. He hasn't featured on a winning team all season. We even lost the u23 game he played. Therein lies the answer he's played about 7 games, think the stat was 3 of them we've won with him on the pitch (i.e. discounting what happens when he's not on). The manager thought he'd take us in a different direction after Joe Allen got some goals, and it's obviously blown back in his face. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2017 19:14:00 GMT
The answer to your question in no. He's worse. Would we be better with him? Open to debate. Are we any fucking better without him? Are we shit and this is evidence of the managers increasingly puddled mind. He truly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. There are many bigger sticks to beat Hughes with than the bojan one who has done absolutely nothing to merit a place in our match day squad |
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Post by stokecitydom on Apr 8, 2017 19:14:53 GMT
Hughes seems to be trying to strip the team of any it of magic. Bojan has that ability to create something or find that pass. Imbula has the ability to drive past 3 or 4 men & do something. They both have their faults, but surely they cannot do any worse that what the rest are doing. Football is supposed to be entertainment. I really do not find it entertaining anymore and with the squad we have got we should be doing so much better. It's dross, predictable and boring. I'd get a new manager in at the end of the year, as I'm convinced a different manager would be able to get something out of the likes of Bojan, Imbula etc. I'd even bring Joselu back in, as he showed flashes of quality last season. yes Shaq and Arny have no magic!! So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:15:38 GMT
yes Shaq and Arny have no magic!! So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. The problem is that all of our magic is in wide areas. The midfield at the minute is basically back to the cage. |
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Post by Uncle cheese on Apr 8, 2017 19:16:13 GMT
The answer to your question in no. He's worse. Can he do any worse though? He has 3 goals for us this season |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 8, 2017 19:16:22 GMT
Would we be better with him? Open to debate. Are we any fucking better without him? Are we shit and this is evidence of the managers increasingly puddled mind. He truly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. There are many bigger sticks to beat Hughes with than the bojan one who has done absolutely nothing to merit a place in our match day squad Along with at least half a dozen who command regular places. I think he could and should have got regular game time in this fairly horrific side Hughes has put together. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:16:23 GMT
Werrington. No mate he isn't. He isn't any worse than what we are seeing. Neither are some of the young lads we have. Joselu isn't any worse than what we have either. They have been brought into the club and driven away at the first sign of trouble. It is completely baffling and i would pay more than a penny for the Chairman's thoughts. He hasn't featured on a winning team all season. We even lost the u23 game he played. Therein lies the answer 4 goals in 12 games isn't to be sniffed at. Has any player matched it since he left, nevermind beat it? Not making a big issue out of this, but it's an interesting question the op asks imo. |
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Post by stokecitydom on Apr 8, 2017 19:18:15 GMT
Would we be better with him? Open to debate. Are we any fucking better without him? Are we shit and this is evidence of the managers increasingly puddled mind. He truly doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. There are many bigger sticks to beat Hughes with than the bojan one who has done absolutely nothing to merit a place in our match day squad There are many bigger sticks to beat him with, but this is another questionable decision to add to the long list of crazy decisions. New manager is needed for pre season. Let him look at the likes of Bojan, Imbula, Joselu & Muniesa and see if he can get anything out of them. As I believe that they should be playing a part. Our regression this past 15 months has been frightening. |
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Apr 8, 2017 19:18:39 GMT
yes Shaq and Arny have no magic!! So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2017 19:20:12 GMT
He hasn't featured on a winning team all season. We even lost the u23 game he played. Therein lies the answer 4 goals in 12 games isn't to be sniffed at. Has any player matched it since he left, nevermind beat it? Not making a big issue out of this, but it's an interesting question the op asks imo. You aren't seriously including his goal against Bury in your stats are you? 4 goals? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:21:30 GMT
So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury. Unfortunately this is completely true. He's just not up to it anymore and is sitting on a big fat contract. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:22:20 GMT
4 goals in 12 games isn't to be sniffed at. Has any player matched it since he left, nevermind beat it? Not making a big issue out of this, but it's an interesting question the op asks imo. You aren't seriously including his goal against Bury in your stats are you? 4 goals? Knock one off then Dave and you are looking at Crouch who has equalled it. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 8, 2017 19:23:37 GMT
And 2 of his goals were pens, if we're being picky....
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 8, 2017 19:23:55 GMT
So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury.
If he was never the same player after his injury, why did Hughes give him a new five and a half year contract, six months after he came back from his injury?
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Post by stokecitydom on Apr 8, 2017 19:25:01 GMT
So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury. I agree he hasn't been the same, but I'm convinced he would still add something to the squad. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2017 19:25:05 GMT
You aren't seriously including his goal against Bury in your stats are you? 4 goals? Knock one off then Dave and you are looking at Crouch who has equalled it. Ah, another fantastic player then. |
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Post by mrred on Apr 8, 2017 19:25:27 GMT
So when Arnautovic has a stinker like he did today or Shaqiri picks up a muscle injury, who can we depend on for abit of magic? It's a squad game and we seem to have the likes of Whelan & Crouch, and who should have been moved on atleast 1 season ago, rather than a couple of our players who have been cast aside prematurely. Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury. Truth. I believe his stay on Germany has also proven this. Our squad is toilet but accommodating Bojan would only hinder us further. 'That' Bojan is long gone I'm afraid. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2017 19:25:37 GMT
Well not Bojan unfortunately he was never the same player after his injury. Unfortunately this is completely true. He's just not up to it anymore and is sitting on a big fat contract. Utter rubbish, I've no idea when it was suddenly accepted that Bojan was 'not the same after injury' but it's simply utter arse gravy. He was a huge integral part of our purple patch of 3/4 months last season, and was second top scorer, despite being injured until mid-Sept and hardly played from march onward! |
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