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Post by skeelsy on Sept 13, 2016 14:17:22 GMT
When we signed Imbula for a massive (for us) 18m I believed that we were investing in a skilful, intelligent box to box midfielder who would prove to be a more than adequate replacement for Nzonzi. After he flattered to deceive in his first few games it has become apparent that we are lumbered with a player who may be skilful but who is lazy, cannot tackle, lacks defensive discipline, creates very little and is not suited to the rigours and intensity of the Premier League. At a time when Ryan Shawcross has suffered a massive loss of form and confidence following his persistent back injury it is imperative that we provide our vulnerable back-four with an effective defensive shield. With Imbula in the midfield we are struggling to prove that shield and unless LMH can somehow turn Imbula into the player we thought we were buying then the prospects for the team are bleak and the manager's days are numbered.
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Post by mickstupp on Sept 13, 2016 14:19:18 GMT
Possibly, along with sick note Shaqiri, who is proving to be a disaster of a signing as well
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Post by hooftastic on Sept 13, 2016 14:22:40 GMT
no, he was one of our better players at the weekend, especially in the first half.
The team has problems but I'd put fullbacks (both were dreadful and I'm not sure what Bardsley had done to get dropped), Whelan not destroying, Walters on the wing and the keeper situations all ahead of Imbula.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:35:38 GMT
no, he was one of our better players at the weekend, especially in the first half. The team has problems but I'd put fullbacks (both were dreadful and I'm not sure what Bardsley had done to get dropped), Whelan not destroying, Walters on the wing and the keeper situations all ahead of Imbula. I was very impressed with imbula in the first half an hour. He showed some great quality on Saturday when he put in one or two excellent forward passes. however his fault, and imo it's a huge fault is his half hearted attempts of tracking back and defensively he's regularly a liability. theres a fantastic player in there, but he needs coaching and Charlie needs to replace him |
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Post by wuzza on Sept 13, 2016 14:41:27 GMT
no, he was one of our better players at the weekend, especially in the first half. The team has problems but I'd put fullbacks (both were dreadful and I'm not sure what Bardsley had done to get dropped), Whelan not destroying, Walters on the wing and the keeper situations all ahead of Imbula. I was very impressed with imbula in the first half an hour. He showed some great quality on Saturday when he put in one or two excellent forward passes. however his fault, and imo it's a huge fault is his half hearted attempts of tracking back and defensively he's regularly a liability. theres a fantastic player in there, but he needs coaching and Charlie needs to replace him He would probably look great if he was operating within a unit that was working well but sadly he isn't and as such looks like a luxury we can't afford. |
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Post by Theninjabadger on Sept 13, 2016 14:44:15 GMT
I've heard everything now on here. Imbula is right down on our list of problems. He won't cost Hughes his job, neither will Shaqiri, nor will Whelan, neither will Arnie's contract. The only thing that will cost Hughes his job is our inability to defend like a premier league side
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Post by petecampbell on Sept 13, 2016 14:45:54 GMT
He was our best player on the opening weekend and I thought he looked decent vs Spurs, especially in the first half.
If Hughes loses his job it will have nothing to do with Imbula or any other player for that matter.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 13, 2016 14:50:51 GMT
I've heard everything now on here. Imbula is right down on our list of problems. He won't cost Hughes his job, neither will Shaqiri, nor will Whelan, neither will Arnie's contract. The only thing that will cost Hughes his job is our inability to defend like a premier league side The refusal to rectify our defensive issues last season and this one so far will cost him his job, we needed a proper back up GK and proper defenders lake we did last season, his first buy in the window was a midfielder  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:55:07 GMT
Fucking hell.
Stop this witch-hunt at once.
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Post by generationex on Sept 13, 2016 14:55:09 GMT
If he losses his job it will be down to the majority of his signings not working out - not just one.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 14:56:36 GMT
I've heard everything now on here. Imbula is right down on our list of problems. He won't cost Hughes his job, neither will Shaqiri, nor will Whelan, neither will Arnie's contract. The only thing that will cost Hughes his job is our inability to defend like a premier league side The refusal to rectify our defensive issues last season and this one so far will cost him his job, we needed a proper back up GK and proper defenders lake we did last season, his first buy in the window was a midfielder Yes Tazi. Of course .... |
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 13, 2016 15:00:06 GMT
Both he and Shaq need to step up.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 13, 2016 15:03:05 GMT
I think Imbula and Shaqiri have been a combined 30 million disaster
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 15:05:18 GMT
I think Imbula and Shaqiri have been a combined 30 million disaster That's a bit dramatic and overly negative. I'd say for a club of our size they haven't been worth the investment and the risk. Nor has Joselu. |
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 13, 2016 15:08:18 GMT
Im that negative that i will be going palace on sunday will you? Can you honestly say that those 2 signings have worked out
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 13, 2016 15:10:22 GMT
Of course not but its becoming increasingly likely that his acquisition will go down in the bad call column which worryingly is getting rather long. Although I guess Mr cartwright would have scouted him on a number of occasions so its not all Hughes's fault. Porto were keen to get rid because of his lack of defensive capabilities which should have raised questions. When clubs like Leicester and Villa can find the likes of Kante and Gueye for half the price you have to ask questions of our much heralded scouters and recruiters
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Post by sharonbeech21 on Sept 13, 2016 15:15:37 GMT
No need for you to abuse me .who the hell do you think you are? Go away and grow up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 15:16:56 GMT
Imbula's fine. Couple of poor games, the least of our problems. Need to get that little Swiss git fit and stayed fit as a priority.
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Post by adamsson on Sept 13, 2016 15:18:31 GMT
For a long time everything was the fault of Wolly. He was to blame. Doesn't matter what it it was it was his fault.
Then he left and nothing got better.
So now Imbula is to blame.
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Post by slother on Sept 13, 2016 15:20:40 GMT
Hughes will cost Hughes is job. The performances of Imbula, or any other player, are neither here nor there.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Sept 13, 2016 15:23:36 GMT
Like any manager results will cost him his job in the end , big signings obviously raise expectations , no doubt Pulis told the club if they paid for Crouch and Palacios we would push orn , when we didn't and the football was rubbish the trust was lost a bit .
Hughes is in a similar boat , he spent a fair bit in the last 15 months and has to deliver , certainly performances over the past few months are not good enough
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Post by Scrotnig on Sept 13, 2016 15:26:42 GMT
Don't think Imbula is the disaster some think he is.
The team as a whole is not functioning. That is what will cost Hughes his job. He cannot any longer bring results in.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 13, 2016 15:27:47 GMT
Fucking hell. Stop this witch-hunt at once. It's Wollschied's fault for fucking off back to Germany, we coulda just blamed him for everything as usual but now we've gotta find a new scapegoat! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 15:32:44 GMT
No need for you to abuse me .who the hell do you think you are? Go away and grow up Who has abused you? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 15:32:45 GMT
What about the other 9 outfield players?
Where were they for the 4 goals?
Fucking stupidity at times. Imbula, as stated further up, is down on our list of problems raised by Sat. He's not perfect, but is a damn sight more useful than Pieters, Cameron, Whelan and Walters.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Sept 13, 2016 15:40:59 GMT
no, he was one of our better players at the weekend, especially in the first half. The team has problems but I'd put fullbacks (both were dreadful and I'm not sure what Bardsley had done to get dropped), Whelan not destroying, Walters on the wing and the keeper situations all ahead of Imbula. I was very impressed with imbula in the first half an hour. He showed some great quality on Saturday when he put in one or two excellent forward passes. however his fault, and imo it's a huge fault is his half hearted attempts of tracking back and defensively he's Ā regularly a liability. theres a fantastic player in there, but he needs coaching and Charlie needs to replace him You shouldnt need to coach effort. The guy just lets players go by him once he loses the ball. And yet we still have some of our mentalist supporters saying Arnie doesnt put a shift in.....the guy is a liability at the moment. It needs to be allen and one of adam/cameron/muniesa...one forays the other stays (I like that little saying...I need to try to add a copyright to thatš¤!!). Whelan and Walters should never start again for stoke....too slow/old...worrying times for me. |
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Post by daveandeddy on Sept 13, 2016 15:53:18 GMT
Im that negative that i will be going palace on sunday will you? Can you honestly say that those 2 signings have worked out are you going to see the queen -- or be knighted -- ?? Better behave as i am also putting myself through the torture that is Selhurst Park and i don want you smacking me |
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Post by pez75 on Sept 13, 2016 15:57:41 GMT
Shitbin
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 16:03:08 GMT
I was very impressed with imbula in the first half an hour. He showed some great quality on Saturday when he put in one or two excellent forward passes. however his fault, and imo it's a huge fault is his half hearted attempts of tracking back and defensively he's regularly a liability. theres a fantastic player in there, but he needs coaching and Charlie needs to replace him You shouldnt need to coach effort. The guy just lets players go by him once he loses the ball. And yet we still have some of our mentalist supporters saying Arnie doesnt put a shift in.....the guy is a liability at the moment. It needs to be allen and one of adam/cameron/muniesa...one forays the other stays (I like that little saying...I need to try to add a copyright to thatš¤!!). Whelan and Walters should never start again for stoke....too slow/old...worrying times for me.Never say never Jimmy. As I've learned over the years, these players tend to prove you wrong, and usually very soon after you post it  As my wise son tells me...no point you worrying dad. Thats for the manager and players to do |
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Post by daveandeddy on Sept 13, 2016 16:05:29 GMT
No need for you to abuse me .who the hell do you think you are? Go away and grow up Who has abused you? ????? |
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