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Post by liamo on Aug 26, 2016 18:23:41 GMT
I love how compassionate some of our fans are, he played every game for the swiss at the euros so maybe its our training techniques? He's not the only one with constant niggling injuries
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Post by ed5993 on Aug 26, 2016 18:27:28 GMT
1) how many times has a newspaper been wrong or speculative before?
2) how many times have you seen a top player withdraw or be ruled out of an international squad, only to appear in the next weekend's Prem game?
Answer to both = all the time
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:30:16 GMT
Out they come.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:48:20 GMT
This. Let's wait for some confirmat-NO, LET'S GET THE KNIFES OUT
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 26, 2016 18:54:00 GMT
Hope the report isn't accurate but with all of his seemingly frequent strains and niggles, I wonder if his physique has anything to do with it. I've not seen a more unnaturally muscular footballer and he clearly does weights. Lads who I know that train to this level are forever tearing or straining things......id be tempted to tell him to lay off the heavy weights for a while and see if there is any improvement with injuries.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 18:54:01 GMT
My guess is MH is trying to keep as many of his "ify" fitness players away from international duty as he can and let them have an extended recovery period. Recovery period. The guy has been recovering since he joined us last season. What is it with all these *star* players at Stoke. I hope Joe Allen doesn't succumb to the dreaded "on and off" stars injury list we seem to have adopted over the last 3 seasons. If he does then some serious questions need to asked about what's really going on in training these footballing athletes.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Aug 26, 2016 20:11:28 GMT
Say what you will about him being injury prone, but it was clear as day we were at our best last season with arnie on the left and shaq on the right. When only one of them played it was far too easy for the other team to focus on shutting down the one side where we had a creative player. The fact that shaq and arnie will most definitely spend at least some time injured is why I think we should be trying to sign another winger in addition to sobhi.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 26, 2016 21:21:15 GMT
Diouf would have had a stupid signing on fee, I wouldn't be surprised if he cost more that Joselu. Every player has a stupid signing on fee. True but when they know the club are paying nothing for them it probably doubles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 21:22:23 GMT
Step forward ramadamadingdong let's see that Egyptian magic
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Post by scfcwebby on Aug 26, 2016 21:23:57 GMT
Step forward ramadamadingdong let's see that Egyptian magic I'd put money on it being Diouf or Walters
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 21:24:04 GMT
My guess is MH is trying to keep as many of his "ify" fitness players away from international duty as he can and let them have an extended recovery period. Recovery period. The guy has been recovering since he joined us last season. What is it with all these *star* players at Stoke. I hope Joe Allen doesn't succumb to the dreaded "on and off" stars injury list we seem to have adopted over the last 3 seasons. If he does then some serious questions need to asked about what's really going on in training these footballing athletes. Marc Wilson seems to have the answers you require that is why he now plays for Bournemouth.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 21:26:31 GMT
Step forward ramadamadingdong let's see that Egyptian magic I'd put money on it being Diouf or Walters I've a feeling it will be Walters myself however I really hope not diouf. I think we should throw ramadam on as he's unknown and raw. Opposition wouldn't know how deal with him yet
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 21:27:07 GMT
Step forward ramadamadingdong let's see that Egyptian magic The flying carpet arrives in the PL, at least he is used to been around camels.
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Post by hchpotter on Aug 26, 2016 21:28:03 GMT
Oh no, how will we cope without all of Shaq's goals, crosses and corner routines?
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 21:28:46 GMT
I'd put money on it being Diouf or Walters I've a feeling it will be Walters myself however I really hope not diouf. I think we should throw ramadam on as he's unknown and raw. Opposition wouldn't know how deal with him yet Walters back on the wing , good God we are going backwards faster than an Italian infantry brigade.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 21:31:43 GMT
I've a feeling it will be Walters myself however I really hope not diouf. I think we should throw ramadam on as he's unknown and raw. Opposition wouldn't know how deal with him yet Walters back on the wing , good God we are going backwards faster than an Italian infantry brigade. I've a bad feeling hughes will put him there bud. I bloody hope not
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 21:44:32 GMT
Is Glen anywhere near fit. I still say he's our second best option for the right
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 21:48:02 GMT
Walters back on the wing , good God we are going backwards faster than an Italian infantry brigade. I've a bad feeling hughes will put him there bud. I bloody hope not Think you are right Clyde just shows how far forward we have moved since the departure of Roland Twat, I really fear for us this season we are a shambles at the moment.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 26, 2016 21:48:23 GMT
Would it be too harsh, based on his performances to date, to describe Shaqiri as an injury prone showpony? He's got a good line in the really flashy things - whipped in deliveries with lots of curve, scissor kicks, fancy flicks when we play against the big teams - but he seems to be lack some of the basic parts of his game. He's clearly a fairly intelligent player, but he usually fails to beat his full back and even when he does, his crossing isn't fantastic.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 26, 2016 22:05:31 GMT
Would it be too harsh, based on his performances to date, to describe Shaqiri as an injury prone showpony? He's got a good line in the really flashy things - whipped in deliveries with lots of curve, scissor kicks, fancy flicks when we play against the big teams - but he seems to be lack some of the basic parts of his game. He's clearly a fairly intelligent player, but he usually fails to beat his full back and even when he does, his crossing isn't fantastic. Shush the rimmers won't like that sort of talk, he was cheap anyway so that is not an issue
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2016 22:30:26 GMT
Put Arnie on the right as the senior player and let sobhi start on the left. They can switch during the game. The lad is right footed though. It has to be easier to play on the right as a right footer despite all this inverted winger bollocks. Crouch will start for sure so get two wide men on and get some crosses into the box, preferably from as close to the byline as is feasibly possible But Arnie is rubbish on the right but ace on the left. We need a proper right winger with genuine pace, it's one of the most important signings we need to make IMHO. He's not rubbish on the right,his skill sets don't disappear by playing on the other wing and if anything his crossing is better from the right too.
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Post by Gods on Aug 26, 2016 22:40:55 GMT
Hope the report isn't accurate but with all of his seemingly frequent strains and niggles, I wonder if his physique has anything to do with it. I've not seen a more unnaturally muscular footballer and he clearly does weights. Lads who I know that train to this level are forever tearing or straining things......id be tempted to tell him to lay off the heavy weights for a while and see if there is any improvement with injuries. Rafa Nadal lost a lot of muscle mass in an attempt to avoid further injury, but I think the damage was already done, still it made his cock grow long according to the girls so the effort wasn't wasted !
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 26, 2016 22:42:02 GMT
But Arnie is rubbish on the right but ace on the left. We need a proper right winger with genuine pace, it's one of the most important signings we need to make IMHO. He's not rubbish on the right,his skill sets don't disappear by playing on the other wing and if anything his crossing is better from the right too. I completely disagree Will but I respect you see it differently.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2016 22:51:27 GMT
Arnie is no right winger.
He's no striker either.
He's a bloody good left winger.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 26, 2016 22:54:14 GMT
Arnie is no right winger. He's no striker either. He's a bloody good left winger. If he can play the left he can play the right.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 23:12:49 GMT
Arnie is no right winger. He's no striker either. He's a bloody good left winger. He is definantly not as productive on the right which is the issue but doesn't it depend on what system we go with. Ie 442 where crossing is far more advantageous.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2016 23:16:20 GMT
Arnie is no right winger. He's no striker either. He's a bloody good left winger. If he can play the left he can play the right. Football doesn't work like that. Never had, never will do. And Arnie has shown time and time again that he's not the same player on the right as he is on the left.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 26, 2016 23:18:52 GMT
We have no recent appearances of Arnie on the right to make a proper judgement. Two years ago? Different team, arguably a more rounded and fitter player. Definitely been better so far on the left, but who knows now? I'd like to see them switching around a bit in games, looked at one stage Hughes was trying this, but gone more rigid since.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 26, 2016 23:21:12 GMT
Stoke fans whinge their cock off when a manager plays a square peg in a round hole and then we get this.
It's so funny.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2016 23:27:36 GMT
Stoke fans whinge their cock off when a manager plays a square peg in a round hole and then we get this. It's so funny. It's not the case at all. I suggest that if we consider( I wouldn't) playing Arnie on the right we would need to change our system to suit. You said earlier that things are not black and white when it comes to Football but it is when it comes to individual players.
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