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Post by Robo10 on Jun 12, 2016 14:58:38 GMT
Awful news from Orlando overnight, a madman has shot over 100 people, many seriousl injured and scores dead - dreadful Its a gay nightclub, and a seemingly religious motive - Police and local authorities calling it a terrorist act RIP all those who have died, going out for a few beers and a dance shouldnt see you never return home www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-36510172
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Post by themistocles on Jun 12, 2016 14:59:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 15:02:08 GMT
Showing now on the beeb and cnn a USA born Muslin Omar Mateen has slaughtered at least 50 night clubbers in a mass shooting at an Orlando nightclub... Seems they were targeted because they were gay, as it was a gay club where it happened...
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 12, 2016 15:04:51 GMT
Appalling yet again
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Post by thevoid on Jun 12, 2016 15:07:58 GMT
Yet you'll be the bigot for posting this thread.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 12, 2016 15:08:59 GMT
And we all wonder why Trump is so popular
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 15:10:16 GMT
Yet another example of a follower of the religion of peace showing their acceptance of tolerance in a multi cultural society, cue the apologist gang on here with their lame left wing reasons for their barbaric behaviour.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 15:14:47 GMT
And we all wonder why Trump is so popular Seems he may have a point on this.
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Post by themistocles on Jun 12, 2016 15:23:10 GMT
People putting all the blame on the gun laws in the US. Although they are ridiculous and do contribute to the high murder rate, remind me how the gun laws in France prevent the mass religious motivated slaughter there ?
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 15:35:48 GMT
People putting all the blame on the gun laws in the US. Although they are ridiculous and do contribute to the high murder rate, remind me how the gun laws in France prevent the mass religious motivated slaughter there ? Easy cop out for the apologist's , deflect from the real problem in society.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 12, 2016 15:39:31 GMT
People putting all the blame on the gun laws in the US. Although they are ridiculous and do contribute to the high murder rate, remind me how the gun laws in France prevent the mass religious motivated slaughter there ? Easy cop out for the apologist's , deflect from the real problem in society. What is the real problem?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 15:40:41 GMT
Another cowardly attack, but still the muslim community will turn a blind eye. Any other religion would go out of their way to condemn acts of this nature. They do not do enough, it is about time they stepped up.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 15:42:52 GMT
Easy cop out for the apologist's , deflect from the real problem in society. What is the real problem? Religious fundamentalist murdering cowardly barbarians would be top of my list, what is your opinion ?
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 12, 2016 15:43:39 GMT
Long gone are the days when an individual would proclaim his/her thoughts and ideas from a box armed with a megaphone. Either to be applauded or derided. Step up the coward with an ideology and an automatic weapon.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 12, 2016 15:53:12 GMT
What is the real problem? Religious fundamentalist murdering cowardly barbarians would be top of my list, what is your opinion ? With 11,208 gun homicides I would say gun crime is right up there with Islamic terrorism. The widespread use of guns kills much more people on US soil than Islamic terrorism ever has, although of course Islamic extremism is a global problem. I think both issues need dealing with, although I see only one issues being tackled with much energy. Just to be sure, has anyone actually said this shooting is part of Islamic extremism or is it a lone Muslim nutter?
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 12, 2016 16:28:45 GMT
Religious fundamentalist murdering cowardly barbarians would be top of my list, what is your opinion ? With 11,208 gun homicides I would say gun crime is right up there with Islamic terrorism. The widespread use of guns kills much more people on US soil than Islamic terrorism ever has, although of course Islamic extremism is a global problem. I think both issues need dealing with, although I see only one issues being tackled with much energy. Just to be sure, has anyone actually said this shooting is part of Islamic extremism or is it a lone Muslim nutter? Same thing isn't it
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Post by blurtonboy on Jun 12, 2016 16:51:43 GMT
And we all wonder why Trump is so popular Seems he may have a point on this. He needs to build a big brick wall.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 16:59:17 GMT
With 11,208 gun homicides I would say gun crime is right up there with Islamic terrorism. The widespread use of guns kills much more people on US soil than Islamic terrorism ever has, although of course Islamic extremism is a global problem. I think both issues need dealing with, although I see only one issues being tackled with much energy. Just to be sure, has anyone actually said this shooting is part of Islamic extremism or is it a lone Muslim nutter? Same thing isn't it You would think so would you not but hey ho whatever suits the agenda.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 17:00:43 GMT
Seems he may have a point on this. He needs to build a big brick wall. Apologies I did not realise the nutter was from Mexico.
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Post by salopstick on Jun 12, 2016 17:17:33 GMT
You can't tackle Islamic extremism whilst Islamic countries like Dubai put rape victims in prison for adultery
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Jun 12, 2016 17:26:29 GMT
It is another terrible hate-fueled tragedy. You can blame religion or guns or whatever, but this, like the North Carolina shootings, is a product of a person who developed an extreme hatred and intolerance towards a category of humans that he disagreed with.
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Post by StokieNath on Jun 12, 2016 17:34:15 GMT
Religion of peace they say...
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jun 12, 2016 17:53:43 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 12, 2016 18:17:09 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right? Careful mate, you're spoiling this thread with your reasoning.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 18:17:43 GMT
Religion of peace they say... So the saying goes, complete bullshit of course.
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Post by themistocles on Jun 12, 2016 18:24:57 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right? Did they carry out the shootings in the name of their religion ? As you know if they didn't , although horrific, it is not classed as terrorism by definition.... Your reverting the narrative and suggesting people are blaming every Muslim for this act. Making shit like that up just prevents talking about the situation which leads to absolutely no resolvement of the issue. Congratulations, you're part of why Islamic extremism still exists... The blame rests with Islamic extremism and the savage stone-aged people who adhere to that religion to its fullest. If you don't acknowledge or are prevented form even mentioning the words Islam, when its quite obvious the accused has links with radical Islam, how can you expect to deal or rectify the situation...
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Post by chuffedstokie on Jun 12, 2016 18:31:59 GMT
How do you Un-Indoctrinate people who are convinced that in some way shape or form their religion is telling them that it's all ok to commit unspeakable acts. What to us is falsehood and stupidity, to them it's all of a sudden a zenith to aspire to. Someone somewhere has lit their blue touch paper and long since retired.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jun 12, 2016 18:35:01 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right? Did they carry out the shootings in the name of their religion ? As you know if they didn't , although horrific, it is not classed as terrorism by definition.... Your reverting the narrative and suggesting people are blaming every Muslim for this act. Making shit like that up just prevents talking about the situation which leads to absolutely no resolvement of the issue. Congratulations, you're part of why Islamic extremism still exists... The blame rests with Islamic extremism and the savage stone-aged people who adhere to that religion to its fullest. If you don't acknowledge or are prevented form even mentioning the words Islam, when its quite obvious the accused has links with radical Islam, how can you expect to deal or rectify the situation... And the more that are let into a country, the greater the chance of at least a few of them being radical, mad bastards. It can't continue.
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Post by StatesideStokie on Jun 12, 2016 18:38:15 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right? Did they carry out the shootings in the name of their religion ? As you know if they didn't , although horrific, it is not classed as terrorism by definition.... Your reverting the narrative and suggesting people are blaming every Muslim for this act. Making shit like that up just prevents talking about the situation which leads to absolutely no resolvement of the issue. Congratulations, you're part of why Islamic extremism still exists... The blame rests with Islamic extremism and the savage stone-aged people who adhere to that religion to its fullest. If you don't acknowledge or are prevented form even mentioning the words Islam, when its quite obvious the accused has links with radical Islam, how can you expect to deal or rectify the situation... I have no problem acknowledging the link to Islam, albeit a tenuous one at this stage of the investigation. As for me being a part of why Islamic extremism still exists, your just talking absolute bollocks.
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Post by crapslinger on Jun 12, 2016 19:11:36 GMT
Islam is responsible? The fact is, 99.9% of mass shootings in the USA are carried out by white Christian males. I guess that would make the entire world population of white Christian males to be supporters of mass murder then, right? Did they carry out the shootings in the name of their religion ? As you know if they didn't , although horrific, it is not classed as terrorism by definition.... Your reverting the narrative and suggesting people are blaming every Muslim for this act. Making shit like that up just prevents talking about the situation which leads to absolutely no resolvement of the issue. Congratulations, you're part of why Islamic extremism still exists... The blame rests with Islamic extremism and the savage stone-aged people who adhere to that religion to its fullest. If you don't acknowledge or are prevented form even mentioning the words Islam, when its quite obvious the accused has links with radical Islam, how can you expect to deal or rectify the situation... Another apologist joins the ranks although they appear to be decreasing on here daily, now we have an American apologist just heard on the news the American authorities are treating it as an act of terrorism, apparently Muslims are not very tolerant of the gay community.
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