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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:55:46 GMT
....in the first half
frustration was a little understandable
but thanks to hughes he stuck to his guns.... as he said - the team is not set up for long ball (until its needed)
the team did a brilliant job on the ground!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:01:10 GMT
....in the first half frustration was a little understandable but thanks to hughes he stuck to his guns.... as he said - the team is not set up for long ball (until its needed) the team did a brilliant job on the ground!!! You're wrong. The fans didn't want long ball, we just didn't want our keeper giving it to our worse footballer in the right back position every goal kick. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2016 19:02:55 GMT
I don't think they wanted long ball they just didn't want them pissing about it when they were under pressure and losing it in dangerous areas.
I think the boot up the arse from the fans as much as the manager did the trick today.
It was sheer frustration and they took it in the right way.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 15, 2016 19:08:33 GMT
A bit of positivity and wanting to pass the ball forwards with urgency and purpose is all I want.. not sure about your long ball theory.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:09:17 GMT
....in the first half frustration was a little understandable but thanks to hughes he stuck to his guns.... as he said - the team is not set up for long ball (until its needed) the team did a brilliant job on the ground!!! You're wrong. The fans didn't want long ball, we just didn't want our keeper giving it to our worse footballer in the right back position every goal kick. they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:09:44 GMT
The frustration was from both centre half's level with the 6 yards box. Then the 2 steps forward 4 steps back. The lack of fight and passion. Thankfully the fans let it be known and the players responded well.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 15, 2016 19:10:00 GMT
We were dreadful with it on the ground first half. Yet again we persisted with what wasn't working and played right into their hands, unwilling to change.
Thankfully we eventually abandoned it.
It took Ryan firing up the crowd, which in turn fired up the side, to get any kind of reaction, and then we remembered we are actually a good side with good players who are capable of playing at tempo and causing teams problems.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:10:31 GMT
A bit of positivity and wanting to pass the ball forwards with urgency and purpose is all I want.. not sure about your long ball theory. hughes |
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 15, 2016 19:10:54 GMT
You're wrong. The fans didn't want long ball, we just didn't want our keeper giving it to our worse footballer in the right back position every goal kick. they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly We kept being closed down near our own box repeatedly Misty, that's why people were getting pissed off. It's a wonder we didn't go in 3-0 down at half time. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 15, 2016 19:12:44 GMT
A bit of positivity and wanting to pass the ball forwards with urgency and purpose is all I want.. not sure about your long ball theory. hughes U wot m8? |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:12:46 GMT
You're wrong. The fans didn't want long ball, we just didn't want our keeper giving it to our worse footballer in the right back position every goal kick. they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly Which isn't a bad idea when your only option is Ryan Shawcross in the right back position asking for the ball off the keeper with two or three West Ham players in the vicinity. |
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Post by charlesjefferson on May 15, 2016 19:15:58 GMT
I didn't get where I am today by not opening a morningmist thread and thinking "Damn, why did I do that? I knew it'd be shit"
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2016 19:16:08 GMT
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Post by felonious on May 15, 2016 19:16:51 GMT
they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly We kept being closed down near our own box repeatedly Misty, that's why people were getting pissed off. It's a wonder we didn't go in 3-0 down at half time. Everton all over again not to mention many other games this season. |
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Post by fca47 on May 15, 2016 19:17:12 GMT
People just wanted them to show some desire to win, we just lacked ambition to go on and win, was the deadly possession for possessions sake, you have to take chances to win a game.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 15, 2016 19:17:34 GMT
We took 20 odd passes to get it into their half.
They took maximum 3 passes to get into ours.
Passing is one thing.
Passing side ways like a crab is another.
Like watching kavanagh in his pomp.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:18:21 GMT
they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly Which isn't a bad idea when your only option is Ryan Shawcross in the right back position asking for the ball off the keeper with two or three West Ham players in the vicinity. all teams do that |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:18:55 GMT
We were dreadful with it on the ground first half. Yet again we persisted with what wasn't working and played right into their hands, unwilling to change. Thankfully we eventually abandoned it. It took Ryan firing up the crowd, which in turn fired up the side, to get any kind of reaction, and then we remembered we are actually a good side with good players who are capable of playing at tempo and causing teams problems. Nailed it Chief |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:25:44 GMT
Which isn't a bad idea when your only option is Ryan Shawcross in the right back position asking for the ball off the keeper with two or three West Ham players in the vicinity. all teams do that No they don't yer daft fucker. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:29:23 GMT
No they don't yer daft fucker. the top teams DO!!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:31:04 GMT
No they don't yer daft fucker. the top teams DO!!! Leicester????? |
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Post by lordherefordsknob on May 15, 2016 19:31:08 GMT
No they don't yer daft fucker. the top teams DO!!! Leicester don't. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on May 15, 2016 19:31:11 GMT
I was really disappointed that Hughes chose to patronise the fans in this way. Not cool Hughes, not cool at all. Acting all smug because we got lucky today. Today could have so easily been the same as those previous games if West Ham hadn't missed 5 or 6 clear cut chances to bury us. It almost wreaked of him expecting us to be grateful for whatever he serves up because it isn't Pulisball. He obviously doesn't realise that his brand of football can also be incredibly dull and predictable. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 19:34:37 GMT
I was really disappointed that Hughes chose to patronise the fans in this way. Not cool Hughes, not cool at all. Acting all smug because we got lucky today. Today could have so easily been the same as those previous games if West Ham hadn't missed 5 or 6 clear cut chances to bury us. It almost wreaked of him expecting us to be grateful for whatever he serves up because it isn't Pulisball. He obviously doesn't realise that his brand of football can also be incredibly dull and predictable. He was right...he knows what people were wanting....and i did |
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Post by Dave the Rave on May 15, 2016 19:38:59 GMT
I was really disappointed that Hughes chose to patronise the fans in this way. Not cool Hughes, not cool at all. Acting all smug because we got lucky today. Today could have so easily been the same as those previous games if West Ham hadn't missed 5 or 6 clear cut chances to bury us. It almost wreaked of him expecting us to be grateful for whatever he serves up because it isn't Pulisball. He obviously doesn't realise that his brand of football can also be incredibly dull and predictable. He was right...he knows what people were wanting....and i did He wasn't right at all. No one wanted us to play long ball because it's wank and we don't have the attacking players to play it. What people might have wanted, was us to move the ball more quickly, with a bit more movement and drive. His tone was patronising and it wasn't necessary. It's obvious he'd been feeling the pressure and he felt West Ham's inability to finish us off was good enough reason for him to have a pop back at those who've been unhappy with our performances of late. Cheap. |
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Post by lancer on May 15, 2016 19:40:50 GMT
Long ball,short ball, I don't care as long as it's round and it's forward. This short ball, ticky tacky ball drives me bonkers. There's a time and place for it, but that doesn't include when you are at home ang 0-1 down, and playing it around in your own half while the opposition is wandering back to defend against us when we finally arrive in their half. West ham, two, three passes and they were buzzing around at the edge of the box. Us, two or three passes and the ball was upfield into their half, then back with Given to start it all over again.Don't want to be too harsh because after all, we did get back into the game and just about deserved the win if only for effort.Good end to the season. Respectable place in the league, never any relegation worries. Roll on next season.
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 15, 2016 19:41:22 GMT
Our movement off the ball is beyond shocking (apart from Arnie) and that is something I expect Hughes to work on for next season. It's obvious to me so it should be obvious to a top level manager.
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Post by chrisparker on May 15, 2016 20:13:13 GMT
Our movement off the ball is beyond shocking (apart from Arnie) and that is something I expect Hughes to work on for next season. It's obvious to me so it should be obvious to a top level manager. It was shocking at Palace & Spurs & Southampton, I wouldn't say it was too bad today. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 15, 2016 20:24:06 GMT
Our movement off the ball is beyond shocking (apart from Arnie) and that is something I expect Hughes to work on for next season. It's obvious to me so it should be obvious to a top level manager. It was shocking at Palace & Spurs & Southampton, I wouldn't say it was too bad today. We're too static, too easy to mark and often too easy to stop. I'm obviously thrilled with the win and finishing 9th but we have some real basic areas where we can improve massively. |
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Post by owdestokie on May 15, 2016 20:52:55 GMT
....in the first half frustration was a little understandable but thanks to hughes he stuck to his guns.... as he said - the team is not set up for long ball (until its needed) the team did a brilliant job on the ground!!! v Both yourself and Leslie ate right. One attempt at goal on the 38th minute is a crowd pleaser and game changer |
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