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Post by flinteastwood on May 16, 2016 8:07:24 GMT
Mark Hughes is a top manager and is doing wonders at our club but yesterday he pissed me off and is wrong and outta line with them comments. no one wants hoofball as much as no one wants 2step forward 4step back tiptap, that first half display was wank. whys he taking a pop at the fans even after we've won the match, this is the bit I don't get why he'd say it.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 8:20:51 GMT
A pop at the fans? What a bunch of fucking mard arses.
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Post by flinteastwood on May 16, 2016 8:27:57 GMT
mate your deluded as fuck, him trying to say the fans is the reason we played so shit first half is a spineless excuse and yes a pop at the fans.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 8:28:35 GMT
mate your deluded as fuck, him trying to say the fans is the reason we played so shit first half is a spineless excuse and yes a pop at the fans. Is he bollocks.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2016 8:31:58 GMT
Whether he was having a pop at the fans or not, if he really believes the fans' reaction in the first half wasn't related to our defensive slapstick with continually passing the ball to players who immediately came under pressure near our own goal, he's deluded.
If he seriously thinks we've 'played through the lines' at home and that it's worked, as he implied in that interview, he wants sectioning.
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 16, 2016 8:49:07 GMT
Whether he was having a pop at the fans or not, if he really believes the fans' reaction in the first half wasn't related to our defensive slapstick with continually passing the ball to players who immediately came under pressure near our own goal, he's deluded. If he seriously thinks we've 'played through the lines' at home and that it's worked, as he implied in that interview, he wants sectioning. Calling our manger Deluded and he wants sectioning is childish
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 9:09:03 GMT
Whether he was having a pop at the fans or not, if he really believes the fans' reaction in the first half wasn't related to our defensive slapstick with continually passing the ball to players who immediately came under pressure near our own goal, he's deluded. If he seriously thinks we've 'played through the lines' at home and that it's worked, as he implied in that interview, he wants sectioning. Calling our manger Deluded and he wants sectioning is childish It might be childish but what rob says is true.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2016 9:52:46 GMT
Whether he was having a pop at the fans or not, if he really believes the fans' reaction in the first half wasn't related to our defensive slapstick with continually passing the ball to players who immediately came under pressure near our own goal, he's deluded. If he seriously thinks we've 'played through the lines' at home and that it's worked, as he implied in that interview, he wants sectioning. Calling our manger Deluded and he wants sectioning is childish Sorry, I'll get back to worshipping graven images then shall I?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2016 10:12:11 GMT
A needlessly barbed comment from Hughes, basically telling fans they don’t know what they’re talking about. Pretty insulting really. Disappointing from him.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 16, 2016 10:13:54 GMT
No longer throw away sound bites I see?
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2016 10:25:59 GMT
Having a go at the fans is a battle no manager can't win. Pointless, petty, priggish and of course most of all, an utter load of bollocks.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 10:27:09 GMT
I'll take notice when he blames the Oatcake for giving away tactics before a game.
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Post by geoff321 on May 16, 2016 10:27:11 GMT
The fact that some fans don't like particular performances and voice their views on here is perfectly normal.It does not mean however that those fans know better than the manager what the solutions are, fans who think they know better are in the main taking themselves too seriously.
Mark Hughes in his interviews was defending his tactics and record, something he is entitled to do.
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Post by skip on May 16, 2016 10:34:41 GMT
The fact that some fans don't like particular performances and voice their views on here is perfectly normal.It does not mean however that those fans know better than the manager what the solutions are, fans who think they know better are in the main taking themselves too seriously. Mark Hughes in his interviews was defending his tactics and record, something he is entitled to do.Agrees with Geoff321. Someone pass me the smelling salts!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2016 10:37:34 GMT
Mark Hughes in his interviews was defending his tactics and record, something he is entitled to do. Quite why he felt the need to is the important question. It was pretty evident why the crowd went a bit toxic towards the end of the first half and it had nothing to do with knuckle heads demanding we knock it long all the time as the manager has suggested.
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Post by mrred on May 16, 2016 10:38:23 GMT
Absolute nonsense Everyone around us just wanted to see some passion and some movement. That was as dreadful a first half as I can remember and I don't care who the manager is. The manager's comments, just like yours are way off beam and disrespectful as was the first half display Thankfully Ryan and Given turned it around and showed the rest what it means to wear the shirt A good section of the crowd cheered when we hoofed it. Fact. I think you and the OP are barking up the wrong tree mate. No one wants to see us revert to that. A lot of the ire stemmed from the back 4 pissing about playing balls back to one another under pressure. Notably Cameron who had a fucking nightmare first half. What's Hughes said anyway?
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 16, 2016 10:39:16 GMT
He's entitled to put his views across as I said he admitted the first half was not good enough .
He said the players lacked confidence and the fans were frustrated because theY wanted Stoke to move the ball forward with the long ball,
THe fact that team was not playing well and the fans were on the players backs was not helping
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 16, 2016 10:43:32 GMT
He's entitled to put his views across as I said he admitted the first half was not good enough . He said the players lacked confidence and the fans were frustrated because theY wanted Stoke to move the ball forward with the long ball, THe fact that team was not playing well and the fans were on the players backs was not helping I disagree. I think the bollocking we gave them changed the game.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2016 10:45:10 GMT
He's entitled to put his views across as I said he admitted the first half was not good enough . He said the players lacked confidence and the fans were frustrated because theY wanted Stoke to move the ball forward with the long ball, THe fact that team was not playing well and the fans were on the players backs was not helping The fans were frustrated not because they wanted to see hoofball but because, yet again, the ponderous playing it out from the back had been well and truly sussed by them and we kept on with it anyway. The crowd wanted us to stop shooting ourselves in the foot.
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Post by geoff321 on May 16, 2016 10:46:01 GMT
I guess momo he is feeling some pressure/criticism and probably feels it's not really justified in view of his overall record.
The fact skip you agree with me is making me wonder whether I've got this right.
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Post by Rick Grimes on May 16, 2016 10:58:01 GMT
Whether he was having a pop at the fans or not, if he really believes the fans' reaction in the first half wasn't related to our defensive slapstick with continually passing the ball to players who immediately came under pressure near our own goal, he's deluded. If he seriously thinks we've 'played through the lines' at home and that it's worked, as he implied in that interview, he wants sectioning. I really like Hughes but I thought it was fairly obvious that the fans weren't demanding long ball tactics, it was as you say down to defensive slapstick with players constantly coming under pressure near our own goal.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2016 11:05:48 GMT
I guess momo he is feeling some pressure/criticism and probably feels it's not really justified in view of his overall record. . Possibly Geoff but if that's the case I wouldn't like to see him under real pressure.
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Post by geoff321 on May 16, 2016 11:11:36 GMT
Whatever people feel about the performance yesterday it's worth pointing out that West Ham had only lost four away games and seven in total, in 37 games.
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 16, 2016 11:35:00 GMT
West Ham like many sides at the Brit this season pressurize us high up the pitch which is something we have to learn to overcome.Liverpool did it in the 1st leg of the cup
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Post by partickpotter on May 16, 2016 11:56:28 GMT
Good time for the season to end. Hughes is obviously feeling the strain of a poor run of results and increasingly poor performances. What he said yesterday was wrong - a cheap shot against the most important people at the club; the supporters.
Hughes needs the close season to think again about what he is trying to do. He'll know that this has been a Curate's Egg of a season. It could have been so much better. Let's hope Hughes has learned from the experience. He's got most of the ingredients for a push for a European place; he just needs to figure out best to deploy them.
Oh - and don't blames the fans!
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Post by mrred on May 16, 2016 12:08:37 GMT
This is from the Sentinel, which I'm guessing is different from what you're all on about because I can't see anything wrong here?
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 16, 2016 12:10:40 GMT
West Ham like many sides at the Brit this season pressurize us high up the pitch which is something we have to learn to overcome.Liverpool did it in the 1st leg of the cup Exactly, and the frustration at our ongoing inability/unwillingness to learn is what pissed the crowd off.
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Post by skip on May 16, 2016 13:06:58 GMT
I guess momo he is feeling some pressure/criticism and probably feels it's not really justified in view of his overall record. The fact skip you agree with me is making me wonder whether I've got this right. Well when two opposing positions agree either we're both right or both wrong! Say hullo to TP for me btw
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Post by skip on May 16, 2016 13:08:49 GMT
I guess momo he is feeling some pressure/criticism and probably feels it's not really justified in view of his overall record. . Possibly Geoff but if that's the case I wouldn't like to see him under real pressure. As manager's go, I think Hughes is generally pretty amicable and diplomatic in his post match views and maybe, he's tired at the end of the season, just like the players are. I don't think there's any more to it than that. Certainly a damn site less passive aggressive than Tony 'Steak and Chips' Pulis towards the end of his tenure.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 16, 2016 13:18:23 GMT
Possibly Geoff but if that's the case I wouldn't like to see him under real pressure. As manager's go, I think Hughes is generally pretty amicable and diplomatic in his post match views and maybe, he's tired at the end of the season, just like the players are. I don't think there's any more to it than that. Certainly a damn site less passive aggressive than Tony 'Steak and Chips' Pulis towards the end of his tenure. I agree, that's why it was so surprising to see. The fact that it was total bollocks as well added to the 'rant factor'. 'This crowd' painting us out to be like it is a remedial class was pretty divisive as well.
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