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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 6:45:57 GMT
they wanted more forward longer balls...instead of building up slowly We kept being closed down near our own box repeatedly Misty, that's why people were getting pissed off. It's a wonder we didn't go in 3-0 down at half time. yes we've done that for a while now...and teams that pressurise quick will get wise to it
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 17, 2016 6:50:06 GMT
We kept being closed down near our own box repeatedly Misty, that's why people were getting pissed off. It's a wonder we didn't go in 3-0 down at half time. yes we've done that for a while now...and teams that pressurise quick will get wise to it West Ham were already wise to it mate. Hence the crowd getting annoyed.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 17, 2016 7:24:25 GMT
No one was calling for it to be launched, he's made it up and for what reason, no one knows. Well quite obviously you weren't there. It's nice to see your stance on manager interviews has changed though, so congrats. You've been told what the reaction was all about by loads of other people who were there. I presume you were watching it on Sky where it's easy to get the wrong impression.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 17, 2016 8:15:20 GMT
Well quite obviously you weren't there. It's nice to see your stance on manager interviews has changed though, so congrats. You've been told what the reaction was all about by loads of other people who were there. I presume you were watching it on Sky where it's easy to get the wrong impression. I don't need to be told what it was, I listen to it every week. Like I said, he's come in, improved us immensely, yet he will never please some.
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 17, 2016 8:45:27 GMT
You've been told what the reaction was all about by loads of other people who were there. I presume you were watching it on Sky where it's easy to get the wrong impression. I don't need to be told what it was, I listen to it every week. Like I said, he's come in, improved us immensely, yet he will never please some. You're mistaken. There is no desire to return to knocking it long and the crowd certainly doesn't 'demand' it as Hughes as suggested. It was a direct response to some repeated, absolutely crazy play right in front of our own goals. There isn't a crowd in the world who wants to see that.
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Post by frodekippe on May 17, 2016 8:57:17 GMT
I couldn't help thinking that we'd gone full circle in our approach/philosophy. I remember when Swansea first came up and thanks to Rogers' stubbornness/arrogance they insisted on every goal kick being a sideways pass out to a centre half, at which point we would pressure them into a mistake or a panicked hoof which was hilarious to watch. In the first half on Sunday we had become exactly what we used to deride. I love Hughes as a manager and cannot thank him enough for the stability and progression that he has given us, but he really needs to accept that there are a multitude of styles that are just as valid as each other and it isn't simply a case of him wanting one extreme and us demanding another.
I love to see controlled possession-based football when it is executed properly, but when it isn't working it's easily one of the most frustrating forms of football to watch. Hopefully Sunday will act as a bit of a lightbulb moment for him in realising that it's OK to ditch the walking-paced sideways passes and actually be assertive and go for the jugular every now and then.
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Post by Kjones9 on May 17, 2016 9:03:27 GMT
I don't need to be told what it was, I listen to it every week. Like I said, he's come in, improved us immensely, yet he will never please some. You're mistaken. There is no desire to return to knocking it long and the crowd certainly doesn't 'demand' it as Hughes as suggested. It was a direct response to some repeated, absolutely crazy play right in front of our own goals. There isn't a crowd in the world who wants to see that. I agree with the last bit but reiterate that there ARE people that want to revert to long ball. Like I said I hear it every single time we play.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 17, 2016 9:09:18 GMT
Its about consistency , and mixing the play up , what we do have to do is play at a much higher tempo and do more work off the ball .
At our best we are a very good team , but too many performances especially at home are nailed on West Brom under Mowbray that we used to rip the piss out off , lots of possession and do nothing with it , that is what we need to improve on next season because other teams will
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 17, 2016 9:17:26 GMT
No one was calling for it to be launched, he's made it up and for what reason, no one knows. Well quite obviously you weren't there. It's nice to see your stance on manager interviews has changed though, so congrats. Hughes got it wrong and, for my money, he was bang out if order. The fans around me weren't shouting to hit it long. There was plenty of frustration at our general ineptitude first half, and rightly so, as we were piss poor.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on May 17, 2016 10:12:29 GMT
The most difficult job for a manager/coach of a mid table Premier League team is how to break down teams who get behind the ball.
The onus is still on the home team to win, so it's much easier to play away from home on the break, as we have seen this season.
Perhaps the plan is to almost invite that early press, stretch the defending team a bit then play through them. I remember hearing one pundit saying that the way to beat Pep's Barcelona was to beat the first press. They were so high up the pitch then, there was space to work in behind their high midfield.
The frustrating thing for me though is that without a high tempo, there seems to be enough time for the opposition to regroup and get back behind the ball at The Britannia.
One thing is for sure. It is easier to organise a defensive plan than it is to find a way to break down a well organised defence.
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Post by trickydicky73 on May 17, 2016 14:27:21 GMT
I don't need to be told what it was, I listen to it every week. Like I said, he's come in, improved us immensely, yet he will never please some. You're mistaken. There is no desire to return to knocking it long and the crowd certainly doesn't 'demand' it as Hughes as suggested. It was a direct response to some repeated, absolutely crazy play right in front of our own goals. There isn't a crowd in the world who wants to see that. Do you think Hughes might have just misread the crowd's reaction or was it a deliberately snide remark?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2016 14:54:27 GMT
You're mistaken. There is no desire to return to knocking it long and the crowd certainly doesn't 'demand' it as Hughes as suggested. It was a direct response to some repeated, absolutely crazy play right in front of our own goals. There isn't a crowd in the world who wants to see that. Do you think Hughes might have just misread the crowd's reaction or was it a deliberately snide remark? probably misread...but the crowd wanted to go forward on the ground quicker....which isnt always that easy... especially against a side that is chasing everything
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 17, 2016 16:26:38 GMT
You're mistaken. There is no desire to return to knocking it long and the crowd certainly doesn't 'demand' it as Hughes as suggested. It was a direct response to some repeated, absolutely crazy play right in front of our own goals. There isn't a crowd in the world who wants to see that. Do you think Hughes might have just misread the crowd's reaction or was it a deliberately snide remark? The phrase 'this crowd' would suggest to me that it was based on more than this game in his head and therefore calculated. Who knows, I'd imagine we will have all forgotten it come August, TD.
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Post by Pugsley on May 17, 2016 18:07:16 GMT
Do you think Hughes might have just misread the crowd's reaction or was it a deliberately snide remark? The phrase 'this crowd' would suggest to me that it was based on more than this game in his head and therefore calculated. Who knows, I'd imagine we will have all forgotten it come August, TD. Yeah coz that'll happen.
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