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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 20:58:38 GMT
It was shocking at Palace & Spurs & Southampton, I wouldn't say it was too bad today. We're too static, too easy to mark and often too easy to stop. I'm obviously thrilled with the win and finishing 9th but we have some real basic areas where we can improve massively. Yes we were static in the first half...it was as if they didnt know where to go...in part due to west hams pressing second half stoke seemed to come alive pushing through.....adam and diouf made a difference
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Post by swampySCFC on May 15, 2016 21:08:53 GMT
I don't think they wanted long ball they just didn't want them pissing about it when they were under pressure and losing it in dangerous areas. I think the boot up the arse from the fans as much as the manager did the trick today. It was sheer frustration and they took it in the right way. I see it that way too. STOP FUCKING PISSING ABOUT AND GET FORWARD.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 21:10:09 GMT
The first half in my view was as bad as the shit the previous manager served up. For me Hughesie's brand of tippy tappy is as boring and predictable as Pulisball.
We look much better when the ball is moved quickly but to be honest our movement off the ball is shocking. I heard the Hughes of QPR on the radio and it was uneccessary. He really needs to bring in more mobile players like Odemwingie to make his system consistently work. IMO the game was crying out for Diouf's pace and work rate. Joselu should have been hooked at half time.
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Post by chiswickpotter on May 15, 2016 21:30:38 GMT
The first half in my view was as bad as the shit the previous manager served up. For me Hughesie's brand of tippy tappy is as boring and predictable as Pulisball. We look much better when the ball is moved quickly but to be honest our movement off the ball is shocking. I heard the Hughes of QPR on the radio and it was uneccessary. He really needs to bring in more mobile players like Odemwingie to make his system consistently work. IMO the game was crying out for Diouf's pace and work rate. Joselu should have been hooked at half time.[/quote Agreed. He was defensive in his TV interview going on about always finishing in the Top 10. We need more from him and his team, better movement in open play and much improved set pieces.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on May 15, 2016 21:52:56 GMT
Astonishing you can think that if we had been 3 down by half time again we could not have complained , we did better in the second half not from tip tap toss but because of Imbula's driving runs , we were still lucky not to let more goals in but defended well and then Charlie got us going again when he came on .
Its not any one style we we need it's forward ball at pace and players prepared to take people on and have a go at scoring a few goals
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Post by GoBoks on May 15, 2016 22:06:53 GMT
No they don't yer daft fucker. the top teams DO!!! Do What exactly? Stop an attacking move and then pass the ball 60 yards backward to put some poor defender under pressure so he hoofs it long they pick up possession and come roaring back at us? I don't think I have seen any "top" teams do that. In fact, I can't remember any teams playing against us this season doing that. And, while we are at it. A quick quiz question ... Which team has had the most goals scored against them within 90 seconds of having an attacking corner in their favour?
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Post by VolvicStokie on May 15, 2016 22:22:15 GMT
Strange from Hughes to say that as most of the first half Shawcross did his trademarked and patended 50 yard clip numerous times.
Everyone got frustrated because Wolly was fucking about and Imbula n Whelan weren't doing anything with the ball other than going sideways or suicidal back passes
Anyway. It vastly improved and overall we were good for the points
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Post by ashleyscfc on May 15, 2016 22:34:52 GMT
I find those comments really fucking galling for a guy who's played and relied on crouch in recent weeks.
Furthermore I didn't hear one person asking for it to go long, we wanted a team who looked like they knew how to play it out from the back.
Pretty much all of us can see the problems with how slow we are passing the ball through the lines and how bad the off the ball movement.
Players in that team today hid and didn't want the ball. I don't believe for a second he can't hear the groans when wolly/Cameron had the ball and got themselves in a mess and then arguing amongst themselves. Or Whelan being told to "turn" unanimously by the crowd.
Has Hughes and his team asked us, and we've said we want it playing long more?
What nonsense, a really stupid comment to make if that's what he thinks imo. Shows a worrying level of arrogance and misunderstanding
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on May 15, 2016 22:45:57 GMT
Sounds like Hughes is a bit frustrated with the fans!
They were shouting because they are fed up of seeing players Miss the chance to make a decisive pass because they want to turn back and slow down possession all the time.
This type of dig at the fans reminds me of pulis
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Post by FullerMagic on May 15, 2016 22:52:19 GMT
Sounds like Hughes is a bit frustrated with the fans! They were shouting because they are fed up of seeing players Miss the chance to make a decisive pass because they want to turn back and slow down possession all the time. This type of dig at the fans reminds me of pulis Yeah - love Hughesie, but that was utter bullshit he was coming out with there.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 15, 2016 23:13:24 GMT
Sounds like Hughes is a bit frustrated with the fans! They were shouting because they are fed up of seeing players Miss the chance to make a decisive pass because they want to turn back and slow down possession all the time. This type of dig at the fans reminds me of pulis Yeah - love Hughesie, but that was utter bullshit he was coming out with there. Correct mate. First time I've been disappointed with Hughes that. Bang out of order.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2016 23:18:07 GMT
Yeah - love Hughesie, but that was utter bullshit he was coming out with there. Correct mate. First time I've been disappointed with Hughes that. Bang out of order. Is it?
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 15, 2016 23:19:34 GMT
Correct mate. First time I've been disappointed with Hughes that. Bang out of order. Is it? Yes.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 15, 2016 23:19:36 GMT
It would be nice if some of our players showed for the ball. It's all well and good screaming at Whelan for going backwards, but there's usually nothing on ahead him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2016 23:23:03 GMT
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 15, 2016 23:25:03 GMT
You're talking nonsense mate. Hughes was bang out of order. The fans weren't shouting for the team to launch it long. They were venting their frustration at a diabolical first half performance. It had nothing to do with how direct we were.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2016 23:27:39 GMT
You're talking nonsense mate. Hughes was bang out of order. The fans weren't shouting for the team to launch it long. They were venting their frustration at a diabolical first half performance. It had nothing to do with how direct we were. I haven't said anything to the contrary. Just about you not being disappointed with him before this! you were calling him all sorts and wanted him sacked after Everton.
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Post by WhyDelilah on May 15, 2016 23:30:24 GMT
You're talking nonsense mate. Hughes was bang out of order. The fans weren't shouting for the team to launch it long. They were venting their frustration at a diabolical first half performance. It had nothing to do with how direct we were. I haven't said anything to the contrary. Just about you not being disappointed with him before this! you were calling him all sorts and wanted him sacked after Everton. That's a fair point mate.
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Post by upthefud on May 16, 2016 5:58:45 GMT
I'm not normally one to take a post match interview seriously because it's usually just soundbites and managers blaming referees but fuck me is Hughes losing the plot? What a stupid comment.
Yesterday could and probably should have been another battering. This is one of the few times (Pulis' final season being another that springs to mind) where I'm absolutely delighted that the season is over.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 6:08:02 GMT
Been a long hard season and Hughes was letting out his frustration. We could dwell on and it and analyse his comments to death or we could take pride in again finishing 9th, safe in the knowledge that there is definite scope for improvement in the squad to propel us to the next level......
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Post by Do it for dobing on May 16, 2016 6:23:34 GMT
I listened to the interview he was saying that one of the reasons the first half was poor,the players confidence was low and the crowds frustration and wanting to go forward wasn't helping
He just pointed out that the team is not set up to play long balls, anyway what ever was said at half time got them moving and the fans came back onside
I think once Ryan rediscovered his form in the second half we looked a different side
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Post by upthefud on May 16, 2016 6:26:48 GMT
Been a long hard season and Hughes was letting out his frustration. We could dwell on and it and analyse his comments to death or we could take pride in again finishing 9th, safe in the knowledge that there is definite scope for improvement in the squad to propel us to the next level...... One of this clubs biggest assets is the crowd when it gets going. His sideways passing around the back with no movement negates us. Patronising us is not a smart move on his part, I think he's very lucky that this season is over. If he wants fans who won't kick up a fuss then he should have stayed at Fulham
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Post by crapslinger on May 16, 2016 6:53:36 GMT
Been a long hard season and Hughes was letting out his frustration. We could dwell on and it and analyse his comments to death or we could take pride in again finishing 9th, safe in the knowledge that there is definite scope for improvement in the squad to propel us to the next level...... One of this clubs biggest assets is the crowd when it gets going. His sideways passing around the back with no movement negates us. Patronising us is not a smart move on his part, I think he's very lucky that this season is over. If he wants fans who won't kick up a fuss then he should have stayed at Fulham Pulis had a habit of patronising our supporters, the fans have a right to vent their feelings as they did yesterday, the first half was one of the worst displays since we reached the Prem., the honeymoon period is well and truly over now this is his team his tactics his responsibility.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 7:00:15 GMT
Lot of touchy fans on here. Sparky's touched a nerve and some of them don't like it. There is longing for hoofball in sections of our support - that's a stonewall fact.
Stick it to 'em Sparky.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 7:06:02 GMT
Lot of touchy fans on here. Sparky's touched a nerve and some of them don't like it. There is longing for hoofball in sections of our support - that's a stonewall fact. Stick it to 'em Sparky. ...says the bloke who has been secretly and subconsciously pining for Pulis for the last two weeks.
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 16, 2016 7:07:07 GMT
Lot of touchy fans on here. Sparky's touched a nerve and some of them don't like it. There is longing for hoofball in sections of our support - that's a stonewall fact. Stick it to 'em Sparky. Absolute nonsense Everyone around us just wanted to see some passion and some movement. That was as dreadful a first half as I can remember and I don't care who the manager is. The manager's comments, just like yours are way off beam and disrespectful as was the first half display Thankfully Ryan and Given turned it around and showed the rest what it means to wear the shirt
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 7:15:34 GMT
Lot of touchy fans on here. Sparky's touched a nerve and some of them don't like it. There is longing for hoofball in sections of our support - that's a stonewall fact. Stick it to 'em Sparky. Absolute nonsense Everyone around us just wanted to see some passion and some movement. That was as dreadful a first half as I can remember and I don't care who the manager is. The manager's comments, just like yours are way off beam and disrespectful as was the first half display Thankfully Ryan and Given turned it around and showed the rest what it means to wear the shirt A good section of the crowd cheered when we hoofed it. Fact.
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 16, 2016 7:19:48 GMT
Absolute nonsense Everyone around us just wanted to see some passion and some movement. That was as dreadful a first half as I can remember and I don't care who the manager is. The manager's comments, just like yours are way off beam and disrespectful as was the first half display Thankfully Ryan and Given turned it around and showed the rest what it means to wear the shirt A good section of the crowd cheered when we hoofed it. Fact. What has that got to do with anything - you are obsessed If you were sitting there first half thinking what was on display was acceptable then you need to give your head a wobble It is a good job the team turned it around, because yesterday the crowd turned on them and the manager and if we had gone in to the closed season with another inept display and a loss it could have been so much worse The concourses were full before half time and people were pretty damn angry And guess what, not one that I heard mentioned the P word
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 16, 2016 7:32:31 GMT
Watched MOTD last night and what Hughes said after the match didn't sit well with me at all, actually, it made me angry. That is all.
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Post by Pugsley on May 16, 2016 7:32:43 GMT
A good section of the crowd cheered when we hoofed it. Fact. What has that got to do with anything - you are obsessed If you were sitting there first half thinking what was on display was acceptable then you need to give your head a wobble It is a good job the team turned it around, because yesterday the crowd turned on them and the manager and if we had gone in to the closed season with another inept display and a loss it could have been so much worse The concourses were full before half time and people were pretty damn angry And guess what, not one that I heard mentioned the P word Where have I said the first half was acceptable? I've said on other threads it wasn't. We were abject. We started to pass the ball a lot better in the second half with Wolly, Imbula and Bojan linking up well. We weren't great but we won. A lot for the manager to ponder and sort in the close season that there is no doubt. What we don't need is a return to hoofball like some fans want. I've never mentioned the ex-manager on this thread so what are you on about?
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