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Joselu
Jan 15, 2016 1:00:27 GMT
Post by whereami on Jan 15, 2016 1:00:27 GMT
There's a long way to go yet but he's definitely showing real signs of adapting his game and being able to influence games which I really doubted for a while. One swallow doesn't make a summer but I am far more hopeful of him making a positive impact on us. That's all very true. I guess he just isn't the sort of player that I thought he was. Didn't he have some daft stat in Germany that he won every single header last season, or something like that? He will be what he will be though. While he might not fit the label on the packaging we were sold, things like his cross to Crouch vs Doncaster show what he can do. I think its 4 games in a row now he's scored or assisted, I'll take that for a player just starting to show form for us
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 15, 2016 1:31:25 GMT
This lad is a lovely footballer. Great touch, vision and can sniff out a chance. The more games he gets the more he will adapt to the rough house nature of the PL (compared to other nancy boy leagues) and will get better and better. This. I think Jos is mustard. A big unit who's good with the ball at his feet. Crouchy's love child. Scored a couple of crackers recently. Stick him up front with Bojan at 10 and it's all gravy.
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Joselu
Jan 15, 2016 22:03:00 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2016 22:03:00 GMT
Reminds me of Giraud but just praying we'll score more than them on Sundee!
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Joselu
Jan 15, 2016 22:08:16 GMT
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Post by WoodbineWright2@ on Jan 15, 2016 22:08:16 GMT
Reminds me of Giraud but just praying we'll score more than them on Sundee! Big Hoss is fast becoming another one of our best players, good luck to the boy & I hope he plays & scores the winner vs The Bummers on Sunday.... Mind you, I don't mind who scores the winner so long as we beat the bastards.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 16, 2016 9:04:16 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 9:10:07 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 16, 2016 9:10:07 GMT
I have always rated him since he signed for us, just needed the opportunity he is now getting.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 16, 2016 9:15:38 GMT
Reminds me of Giraud but just praying we'll score more than them on Sundee! I agreed actually very similar player to giroud.
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 10:01:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 10:01:44 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think Indeed he did.
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 10:15:53 GMT
Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 16, 2016 10:15:53 GMT
Reminds me of Giraud but just praying we'll score more than them on Sundee! I agreed actually very similar player to giroud. I agree to a certain extent but I think Joselu is a better technical player. I haven't seen Giroud cross the ball like Joselu can, although Giroud is more of a goal getter.
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Post by ohbottom on Jan 16, 2016 10:20:48 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think Funnily enough that's exactly what I thought when Mertesacker joined the Arse.
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 16, 2016 11:01:19 GMT
I agreed actually very similar player to giroud. I agree to a certain extent but I think Joselu is a better technical player. I haven't seen Giroud cross the ball like Joselu can, although Giroud is more of a goal getter. Yeah that's fair. Giroud has that 'killer instinct'
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 16, 2016 11:06:11 GMT
Comparison with Giroud is odious.
Giroud has played in the Prem for over 3 years, he came as a top player, costing over £9m in 2012. An international who has played in the Euros and now WC.
Joselu is still just adapting to playing in the Prem having played only a limited amount early in the season. A lot of people on here were saying "Why have we bought him?" "He is surplus to requirements" earlier this season, but MH knows better. Let's just sit back and see how he develops and whether MH is proved right to have spent less than £6m in 2015, which is lot less in real terms than Giroud's price in 2012.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 15:02:18 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think Take out the mediocre point from Mertesaker and the rest is spot on. I speak to counterparts in Germany regularly for work and the topic always ends up on football. Every one I spoke to couldn't believe the amount we'd spent on Joselu and just backed up the overwhelming view in Germany that English clubs spend way over the odds. We seem to have become accustomed to the money in the game but if you look at Spain and Germany in comparison it's embarrassing what we spend and only benefits their game and their own national teams as more younger/lower league players get the opportunity when we sign their players.
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 15:06:55 GMT
Post by djduncanjames on Jan 16, 2016 15:06:55 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think Take out the mediocre point from Mertesaker and the rest is spot on. I speak to counterparts in Germany regularly for work and the topic always ends up on football. Every one I spoke to couldn't believe the amount we'd spent on Joselu and just backed up the overwhelming view in Germany that English clubs spend way over the odds. We seem to have become accustomed to the money in the game but if you look at Spain and Germany in comparison it's embarrassing what we spend and only benefits their game and their own national teams as more younger/lower league players get the opportunity when we sign their players. As the seller of course you are going to Hose the buyer when you know how rich they are, well they can try anyway. Do your German mates think we over paid over the odds for Arnie?
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 15:22:41 GMT
Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 15:22:41 GMT
He has a score to settle here Mr metersucker has some public shit to eat " average players joomkng small clubs for big money I think Take out the mediocre point from Mertesaker and the rest is spot on. I speak to counterparts in Germany regularly for work and the topic always ends up on football. Every one I spoke to couldn't believe the amount we'd spent on Joselu and just backed up the overwhelming view in Germany that English clubs spend way over the odds. We seem to have become accustomed to the money in the game but if you look at Spain and Germany in comparison it's embarrassing what we spend and only benefits their game and their own national teams as more younger/lower league players get the opportunity when we sign their players. So what's the answer?
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 15:32:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 15:32:09 GMT
Wasn't the mediocre comment something that was lost in translation? I seem to recall a German speaker who read the transcript said that the word in question was closer to middle / average in the context?
Still, he the pop at Joselu was not in question so I hope he's ready to show that what happens when an average player is up against a lumbering donkey.
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Joselu
Jan 16, 2016 15:58:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2016 15:58:53 GMT
'A lanky streak of piss'
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:16:36 GMT
Take out the mediocre point from Mertesaker and the rest is spot on. I speak to counterparts in Germany regularly for work and the topic always ends up on football. Every one I spoke to couldn't believe the amount we'd spent on Joselu and just backed up the overwhelming view in Germany that English clubs spend way over the odds. We seem to have become accustomed to the money in the game but if you look at Spain and Germany in comparison it's embarrassing what we spend and only benefits their game and their own national teams as more younger/lower league players get the opportunity when we sign their players. So what's the answer? I'm not saying that there is an answer, my point was that his view on the English clubs over spending on average players is one that seems to be a shared one and it's something I agree with also. Many on here were surprised when we spent so much on Joselu given his average/poor scoring record at previous clubs. That's not at all a dig at Joselu I like what I've seen so far but the those in guys in Germany tell me he was linked with other clubs for €2-3m then we come in and blow them out the water with a larger bid this of course then puts further pressure on the player.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:17:29 GMT
I'm not saying that there is an answer, my point was that his view on the English clubs over spending on average players is one that seems to be a shared one and it's something I agree with also. Many on here were surprised when we spent so much on Joselu given his average/poor scoring record at previous clubs. That's not at all a dig at Joselu I like what I've seen so far but the those in guys in Germany tell me he was linked with other clubs for €2-3m then we come in and blow them out the water with a larger bid this of course then puts further pressure on the player. An English player with his record, patchy as it is, would cost double what we paid for him.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:25:45 GMT
Take out the mediocre point from Mertesaker and the rest is spot on. I speak to counterparts in Germany regularly for work and the topic always ends up on football. Every one I spoke to couldn't believe the amount we'd spent on Joselu and just backed up the overwhelming view in Germany that English clubs spend way over the odds. We seem to have become accustomed to the money in the game but if you look at Spain and Germany in comparison it's embarrassing what we spend and only benefits their game and their own national teams as more younger/lower league players get the opportunity when we sign their players. As the seller of course you are going to Hose the buyer when you know how rich they are, well they can try anyway. Do your German mates think we over paid over the odds for Arnie? Not sure if they thought he was over priced, they were under whelmed when I asked about him and gave the view that we already knew he was supposedly going to be trouble. Obviously this hasn't been the case hence why I try and champion Berahino's potential move despite many others giving the opinion to stay away. I'm not trying to defend Mertesaker or any of the Arsenal bell ends but his point is a valid one and shouldn't be dismissed just because he's an arsenal player take away the points about Stoke being Mediocre and his comments are valid we do pay over the odds from foreign countries.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:29:31 GMT
I'm not saying that there is an answer, my point was that his view on the English clubs over spending on average players is one that seems to be a shared one and it's something I agree with also. Many on here were surprised when we spent so much on Joselu given his average/poor scoring record at previous clubs. That's not at all a dig at Joselu I like what I've seen so far but the those in guys in Germany tell me he was linked with other clubs for €2-3m then we come in and blow them out the water with a larger bid this of course then puts further pressure on the player. An English player with his record, patchy as it is, would cost double what we paid for him. Which backs up my point in a roundabout way if he'd have gone to another German club he would have cost half of what we paid. English clubs regularly over pay regardless of the player being foreign or British.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:34:42 GMT
An English player with his record, patchy as it is, would cost double what we paid for him. Which backs up my point in a roundabout way if he'd have gone to another German club he would have cost half of what we paid. English clubs regularly over pay regardless of the player being foreign or British. He'd have cost another German club more than three million quid.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:36:47 GMT
Which backs up my point in a roundabout way if he'd have gone to another German club he would have cost half of what we paid. English clubs regularly over pay regardless of the player being foreign or British. He'd have cost another German club more than three million quid. Perhaps but not six million that we paid
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:38:35 GMT
He'd have cost another German club more than three million quid. Perhaps but not six million that we paid Probably not, no. But the value abroad is miles better than here.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:43:09 GMT
Perhaps but not six million that we paid Probably not, no. But the value abroad is miles better than here. Again CD I'm not saying it isn't all I'm trying to get across is that he has a point about British clubs over paying.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 16, 2016 20:44:42 GMT
Probably not, no. But the value abroad is miles better than here. Again CD I'm not saying it isn't all I'm trying to get across is that he has a point about British clubs over paying. It was a needless dig on his part.
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Post by miggo on Jan 16, 2016 20:51:21 GMT
Again CD I'm not saying it isn't all I'm trying to get across is that he has a point about British clubs over paying. It was a needless dig on his part. I agree it was perhaps it's been lost in translation I think his point was that average teams like Stoke are paying over the odds for average players like Joselu.
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Joselu
Jan 17, 2016 18:23:42 GMT
Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 17, 2016 18:23:42 GMT
Impresses me more every time I see him. His control is excellent and he looks a pretty good finisher. With a bit of luck could have had 2 today but for Cech. I don't think it'll be long before he starts getting noticed by the media.
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Joselu
Jan 17, 2016 18:25:35 GMT
Post by nutterpotter on Jan 17, 2016 18:25:35 GMT
He's a class act.
His hold up play is improving with every game. Technically excellent and has a great strike on him.
Last summer most of us wanted us to sign a striker who's a blend of Diouf and Crouch. Joselu is that man.
Great performance.
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Joselu
Jan 17, 2016 18:28:14 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 17, 2016 18:28:14 GMT
He was the equal of Giroud today.
He might well be another Hughes masterstroke.
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