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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 12, 2015 19:55:48 GMT
Shaq came off at half time.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 19:55:48 GMT
It's a myth that playing a holding midfielder and a positive approach aren't compatible. One of Barcelona's most important players is a defensive midfielder. Arsenal's invincibles had one. Brazil's last two World Cup winning sides have had them. Pffffft, it makes the 5 other more attacking players and full backs irrelevant obviously!
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 19:57:16 GMT
It's a myth that playing a holding midfielder and a positive approach aren't compatible. One of Barcelona's most important players is a defensive midfielder. Arsenal's invincibles had one. Brazil's last two World Cup winning sides have had them. Bloody hell, I'm not saying one isn't needed!! I'm saying you don't necessarily need one when you're playing a side ranked lower than Aruba!!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 12, 2015 19:57:31 GMT
Our right hand side of Walker and Oxlade Chamberlain must be a world record for the pairing with the fewest combined braincells ever.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 19:58:17 GMT
It's a myth that playing a holding midfielder and a positive approach aren't compatible. One of Barcelona's most important players is a defensive midfielder. Arsenal's invincibles had one. Brazil's last two World Cup winning sides have had them. Pffffft, it makes the 5 other more attacking players and full backs irrelevant obviously! It doesn't.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 12, 2015 19:59:48 GMT
The fans have gone all championship. Bloody annoying. Can't believe England are singing championship songs.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:06:09 GMT
It's a myth that playing a holding midfielder and a positive approach aren't compatible. One of Barcelona's most important players is a defensive midfielder. Arsenal's invincibles had one. Brazil's last two World Cup winning sides have had them. Bloody hell, I'm not saying one isn't needed!! I'm saying you don't necessarily need one when you're playing a side ranked lower than Aruba!! I thought you were suggesting that a positive approach meant dispensing with a DM mate. That's how it reads. I can see Bayern's point, always nice to bed in a DM in a low pressure game. Obviously it's not been an issue tonight, but looking long-term, it might've been an idea.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:07:44 GMT
Bloody hell, I'm not saying one isn't needed!! I'm saying you don't necessarily need one when you're playing a side ranked lower than Aruba!! I thought you were suggesting that a positive approach meant dispensing with a DM mate. That's how it reads. I can see Bayern's point, always nice to bed in a DM in a low pressure game. Obviously it's not been an issue tonight, but looking long-term, it might've been an idea. Who is there though? Dier has been suggested on Twatter. Shelvey there......
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 12, 2015 20:08:44 GMT
The fans have gone all championship. Bloody annoying. Can't believe England are singing championship songs. If you look at the flags round the pitch they all appear to be from championship (or lower) clubs. Might explain those wanky Palace style songs.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:08:51 GMT
Bloody hell, I'm not saying one isn't needed!! I'm saying you don't necessarily need one when you're playing a side ranked lower than Aruba!! I thought you were suggesting that a positive approach meant dispensing with a DM mate. That's how it reads. I can see Bayern's point, always nice to bed in a DM in a low pressure game. Obviously it's not been an issue tonight, but looking long-term, it might've been an idea. I just think there's more mileage in playing a ball player in that position against this type of opposition. We're going to be dominating possession so it makes sense to me to utilise that and players that can spread it about. I'm not suggesting a DM in the side means a negative approach. You'll always need one in games against your peers. Tonight doesn't need a player to sit and break the play up though. It requires somebody to pick it up and dictate the play and start off attacks.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 12, 2015 20:10:17 GMT
Delle Alli plays a few games for Tottenham without overly standing out and plays in back to back internationals?
Hodgson's England revolving door is bizarre at times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:11:01 GMT
Delle Alli plays a few games for Tottenham without overly standing out and plays in back to back internationals? Hodgson's England revolving door is bizarre at times. Similar question to Rob....who else is there? Genuinely?
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 20:11:40 GMT
At least Jack has the chance to learn a bit of Lithuanian off the crowd tonight.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:13:29 GMT
I thought you were suggesting that a positive approach meant dispensing with a DM mate. That's how it reads. I can see Bayern's point, always nice to bed in a DM in a low pressure game. Obviously it's not been an issue tonight, but looking long-term, it might've been an idea. Who is there though? Dier has been suggested on Twatter. Shelvey there...... Might as well give Dier a go. I've always thought Jones was a better DM than defender.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:14:45 GMT
Who is there though? Dier has been suggested on Twatter. Shelvey there...... Might as well give Dier a go. I've always thought Jones was a better DM than defender. I'd have played Jones there in the World Cup. It's pretty slim pickings though.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:14:20 GMT
Who is there though? Dier has been suggested on Twatter. Shelvey there...... Might as well give Dier a go. I've always thought Jones was a better DM than defender. Jones DM? Not for me, Clive.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 12, 2015 20:15:09 GMT
Delle Alli plays a few games for Tottenham without overly standing out and plays in back to back internationals? Hodgson's England revolving door is bizarre at times. Similar question to Rob....who else is there? Genuinely? It's a bit like the Ryan Shawcross situation. There's an English midfielder who's currently in the prime of his career, is the captain of his club and has over 225 Premier League appearances to his name. Does he not deserve a look in at all? As an aside, did Ings get a call up before he joined Liverpool?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:15:59 GMT
Delle Alli plays a few games for Tottenham without overly standing out and plays in back to back internationals? Hodgson's England revolving door is bizarre at times. He's been excellent for Spurs so far this season.
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Post by bolders on Oct 12, 2015 20:16:02 GMT
Just don't think shelvey has adapted to this pitch. Been great in the other games he has played.
Vardy has been quiet
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:16:57 GMT
Might as well give Dier a go. I've always thought Jones was a better DM than defender. Jones DM? Not for me, Clive. Remember him marking Ronaldo out of the game in one match and Bale in another not long after. He seems like one of those players who's better the less he has to think.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:21:18 GMT
Similar question to Rob....who else is there? Genuinely? It's a bit like the Ryan Shawcross situation. There's an English midfielder who's currently in the prime of his career, is the captain of his club and has over 225 Premier League appearances to his name. Does he not deserve a look in at all? As an aside, did Ings get a call up before he joined Liverpool? Who are you on about? Henderson? I really don't like Henderson. I think Ward-Prowse should be in there ahead of him but other than that I can't think of one.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:20:58 GMT
Jones DM? Not for me, Clive. Remember him marking Ronaldo out of the game in one match and Bale in another not long after. He seems like one of those players who's better the less he has to think. I remember Wilko doing a similar job on Ronaldo. Jones is nowhere near good enough, technically, to play in midfield on the International stage.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 12, 2015 20:21:00 GMT
Save!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2015 20:21:31 GMT
Similar question to Rob....who else is there? Genuinely? It's a bit like the Ryan Shawcross situation. There's an English midfielder who's currently in the prime of his career, is the captain of his club and has over 225 Premier League appearances to his name. Does he not deserve a look in at all? As an aside, did Ings get a call up before he joined Liverpool? Mark Noble's ship has sailed mate.
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Post by whydelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:22:27 GMT
It's a bit like the Ryan Shawcross situation. There's an English midfielder who's currently in the prime of his career, is the captain of his club and has over 225 Premier League appearances to his name. Does he not deserve a look in at all? As an aside, did Ings get a call up before he joined Liverpool? Who are you on about? Henderson? I really don't like Henderson. I think Ward-Prowse should be in there ahead of him but other than that I can't think of one. Henderson has come on leaps and bounds over the past 12 months.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 12, 2015 20:23:34 GMT
Just. I nearly shit messen.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 12, 2015 20:23:38 GMT
Remember him marking Ronaldo out of the game in one match and Bale in another not long after. He seems like one of those players who's better the less he has to think. I remember Wilko doing a similar job on Ronaldo. Jones is nowhere near good enough, technically, to play in midfield on the International stage. Possibly. I still think there's a player there somewhere.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 12, 2015 20:24:41 GMT
It's a bit like the Ryan Shawcross situation. There's an English midfielder who's currently in the prime of his career, is the captain of his club and has over 225 Premier League appearances to his name. Does he not deserve a look in at all? As an aside, did Ings get a call up before he joined Liverpool? Who are you on about? Henderson? I really don't like Henderson. I think Ward-Prowse should be in there ahead of him but other than that I can't think of one. Henderson's out injured, isn't he? I'm not much for him either! Just as I was halfway through typing this I've seen theonlooker sussed out who I was on about. It just seems to me that somebody with that record is more deserving of at least an opportunity than a guy who has played well for Spurs in the handful of games that he's actually played.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:24:20 GMT
Who are you on about? Henderson? I really don't like Henderson. I think Ward-Prowse should be in there ahead of him but other than that I can't think of one. Henderson has come on leaps and bounds over the past 12 months. He's still never played well in an England shirt though. In fact he's been pretty piss poor for us at every turn.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 12, 2015 20:25:32 GMT
Who are you on about? Henderson? I really don't like Henderson. I think Ward-Prowse should be in there ahead of him but other than that I can't think of one. Henderson's out injured, isn't he? I'm not much for him either! Just as I was halfway through typing this I've seen theonlooker sussed out who I was on about. It just seems to me that somebody with that record is more deserving of at least an opportunity than a guy who has played well for Spurs in the handful of games that he's actually played. I forgot Mark Noble existed about 2 years ago!
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