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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 22:15:49 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 28, 2015 22:15:57 GMT
just on talksport higgy says stoke players dont have fight in them ,too many nice players and defence is fragile ,he believes rondom will have a big game tomorrow ,we need to prove him wrong so are players need that great atmosphere that we can produce that gets the players firing and getting stuck in something van twinkle and affeley have so far not shown ,...walters must play in these types of game , my team to win tomorrow. butland johnson geoff wollschied muniesa whelen van twinkle walters shaq arnie diouf .. for me pieters is out of form ,affeley is not a CM ...Bojan to come on for van twinkle on the hour .. i predict 3-1 stoke walters johnson diouf .......to net I'm afraid old Danny boy is speaking through his heart not his brain but he entitled to his opinion. I'd expect the same from the likes of Delap, Whitehead, Sidibe and even Walters. If we lose tomorrow it will because we couldn't break down a 9 man defence and some poor sod at the back had a lapse of concentration for a split second through sheer boredom. JW has played twice now against TP teams and has been the worse player on the pitch in both, absolute dog shit performances that's why he wouldn't get anywhere near my match day squad never mind starting.
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Post by Gods on Aug 28, 2015 22:21:26 GMT
I wonder where this legendary fight was in Higgy's time when we basically travelled to every away game, shit ourselves and tried to keep the score down? There was certainly no fighting to win many away games!! That no one can deny! In fairness away wins are still as rare as rocking horse shit for us. You have to go back 6 months to February for our last one at Villa.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 28, 2015 22:25:42 GMT
I wonder where this legendary fight was in Higgy's time when we basically travelled to every away game, shit ourselves and tried to keep the score down? There was certainly no fighting to win many away games!! That no one can deny! In fairness away wins are still as rare as rocking horse shit for us. You have to go back 6 months to February for our last one at Villa. Absolutely right but my point was that Higgy can hardly talk about fight when we basically surrendered two thirds of the pitch to the opposition and just huddled around the waggons. At least now there is generally an intent to try and go on the offense.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 22:32:48 GMT
In fairness away wins are still as rare as rocking horse shit for us. You have to go back 6 months to February for our last one at Villa. Absolutely right but my point was that Higgy can hardly talk about fight when we basically surrendered two thirds of the pitch to the opposition and just huddled around the waggons. At least now there is generally an intent to try and go on the offense. The other night we pissed around with the ball in our own half with our centre halfs time and time again whilst it was 0-0, passing back to the keeper to keep him involved. Against division 4 opposition. Not saying MH is a defensive manager but what was that all about?
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 28, 2015 22:37:21 GMT
Absolutely right but my point was that Higgy can hardly talk about fight when we basically surrendered two thirds of the pitch to the opposition and just huddled around the waggons. At least now there is generally an intent to try and go on the offense. The other night we pissed around with the ball in our own half with our centre halfs time and time again whilst it was 0-0, passing back to the keeper to keep him involved. Against division 4 opposition. Not saying MH is a defensive manager but what was that all about? I'm not really inclined to spend a lot of time analysing the merits of a side put together for a League Cup tie at Luton. The players concerned should of course have done a lot better but to attempt to draw any meaningful conclusions from that isn't really worth the effort.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 22:38:54 GMT
The other night we pissed around with the ball in our own half with our centre halfs time and time again whilst it was 0-0, passing back to the keeper to keep him involved. Against division 4 opposition. Not saying MH is a defensive manager but what was that all about? I'm not really inclined to spend a lot of time analysing the merits of a side put together for a League Cup tie at Luton. The players concerned should of course have done a lot better but to attempt to draw any meaningful conclusions from that isn't really worth the effort. Unlike Hartlepool away
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 28, 2015 22:51:55 GMT
I'm not really inclined to spend a lot of time analysing the merits of a side put together for a League Cup tie at Luton. The players concerned should of course have done a lot better but to attempt to draw any meaningful conclusions from that isn't really worth the effort. Unlike Hartlepool away Or Swindon and Darlington at home. As mentioned earlier in the week, higgy has always given the impression that us doing well hurts him. These latest comments are yet more evidence of something I've thought for sometime.
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 28, 2015 22:57:25 GMT
Definitely issues at present with the foreign players. We don't seem to have a blueprint but I think we will win tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 22:58:04 GMT
Absolutely right but my point was that Higgy can hardly talk about fight when we basically surrendered two thirds of the pitch to the opposition and just huddled around the waggons. At least now there is generally an intent to try and go on the offense. The other night we pissed around with the ball in our own half with our centre halfs time and time again whilst it was 0-0, passing back to the keeper to keep him involved. Against division 4 opposition. Not saying MH is a defensive manager but what was that all about? We will see and have seen a lot of this frustrating pass pass pass lose the ball as we are set up to counter break and well in essence we were always going to have to take the game to Luton... Was hoping a bit much for Bojan to produce his magic on his full return to first team action and Arnie was well Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde again. We will probably see similar tomorrow but I am hoping with Shaq we will have that exrta quality to unlock Pulis Fort Knox
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 22:58:25 GMT
Whenever i listen to higgy he talks sense, he's no fool he's an ex pro who understands the game more than anybody on here.. Apart from pugsley, but that goes without saying
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 28, 2015 22:58:46 GMT
I'm not really inclined to spend a lot of time analysing the merits of a side put together for a League Cup tie at Luton. The players concerned should of course have done a lot better but to attempt to draw any meaningful conclusions from that isn't really worth the effort. Unlike Hartlepool away Bloody hell. That one must have scarred you badly! How many first team regulars did we have out for that one? I admit I have no idea without looking it up?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 28, 2015 23:00:46 GMT
Unlike Hartlepool away Bloody hell. That one must have scarred you badly! How many first team regulars did we have out for that one? I admit I have no idea without looking it up? Pericard played up front with Rory delap and Andrew Davies also played, as did tonge
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 23:01:19 GMT
Unlike Hartlepool away Bloody hell. That one must have scarred you badly! How many first team regulars did we have out for that one? I admit I have no idea without looking it up? It certainly did and i still remember the long journey home.All i remember is Andrew Davies starting
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Post by swampySCFC on Aug 28, 2015 23:04:10 GMT
The other night we pissed around with the ball in our own half with our centre halfs time and time again whilst it was 0-0, passing back to the keeper to keep him involved. Against division 4 opposition. Not saying MH is a defensive manager but what was that all about? I'm not really inclined to spend a lot of time analysing the merits of a side put together for a League Cup tie at Luton. The players concerned should of course have done a lot better but to attempt to draw any meaningful conclusions from that isn't really worth the effort. I don't always agree with Mark but I do on this occasion. Expect a win tomorrow
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2015 4:52:52 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. Without a shadow of a doubt this is true If Stoke win they'll claim ecstasy if WBA win they'll be all over this place
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2015 4:56:50 GMT
I wonder where this legendary fight was in Higgy's time when we basically travelled to every away game, shit ourselves and tried to keep the score down? There was certainly no fighting to win many away games!! That no one can deny! In fairness away wins are still as rare as rocking horse shit for us. You have to go back 6 months to February for our last one at Villa. Not winning away and not trying to win away are 2 different things gods In fact deliberately and virtually throwing certain away games is an absolute disgrace Please don't compare the 2 different managers in regards to away games as there approaches to them are extremes
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 5:10:06 GMT
In fairness away wins are still as rare as rocking horse shit for us. You have to go back 6 months to February for our last one at Villa. Not winning away and not trying to win away are 2 different things gods In fact deliberately and virtually throwing certain away games is an absolute disgrace Please don't compare the 2 different managers in regards to away games as there approaches to them are extremes The different approach to way games is one of the biggest differences between then and now
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 5:16:10 GMT
I find it funny how the media kept saying we play it long and this and that, we change it, like most of them were on at us to do, then they start saying we have too many nice players. Do barca and Madrid have too many nice players? Nail on head. No point listening to the buggers. As much as we like Higginbotham he has the same problem as all pundits. He's expected to talk about teams he's only seen highlights of or one or two games.
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Aug 29, 2015 5:49:28 GMT
Have no fear people, Higgy talks shit.
This is a 'bonus' game for the baggies . It'll be like New Years Day 2013 at the Etihad.
We'll fucking pummel them 3-0 and hear the usual shit about how they can't compete with Big Pete's transfer todger.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Aug 29, 2015 6:10:33 GMT
Lets not have a "nervous" or apprehensive Brit tomorrow folks. Get behind the lads from the off and we will be fine. Goooaarn Stoke! Nah mate, the so called majority are more interested in getting behind the opposition manager. Fuck me talk about over reaction, it's just to show appreciation before kick off and get on with supporting the team. I don't see why it's aproblem
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 6:12:29 GMT
If TP was the master of setting teams up defensively how come we never got a point at Old Trafford, Chelsea, Man City or Arsenal when he was our manager and took some heavy beatings on the way! He wasn't,it's a myth. Just like the notion that he's the master at set pieces is a myth as well. Higginbotham is talking shit as well,West Brom might get the win he predicts today but to suggest our team doesn't have the fight is just utter bollocks.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Aug 29, 2015 6:14:39 GMT
So higgy now isn't allowed an opinion and pulis isn't allowed a good reception. Some of you need to get a grip
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2015 6:15:04 GMT
Let's hope MH shows Higgs piece to the players before the game than he won't need a team talk
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2015 6:18:01 GMT
If TP was the master of setting teams up defensively how come we never got a point at Old Trafford, Chelsea, Man City or Arsenal when he was our manager and took some heavy beatings on the way! He wasn't,it's a myth. Just like the notion that he's the master at set pieces is a myth as well. Higginbotham is talking shit as well,West Brom might get the win he predicts today but to suggest our team doesn't have the fight is just utter bollocks. Add those myths to the hard to beat one 14/57 points from December-May in his last season and that included 2 wins in consecutive weeks in April v QPR and Norwich Rewriting history is the name of the game
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 29, 2015 6:30:03 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. Without a shadow of a doubt this is true If Stoke win they'll claim ecstasy if WBA win they'll be all over this place When we stayed up in 2003 I sensed some were disappointed because they wanted to be proven 'right' about Pulis. It's distressing to think some prefer their own egos over the good of the team.....the good of us all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2015 6:31:08 GMT
He wasn't,it's a myth. Just like the notion that he's the master at set pieces is a myth as well. Higginbotham is talking shit as well,West Brom might get the win he predicts today but to suggest our team doesn't have the fight is just utter bollocks. Add those myths to the hard to beat one 14/57 points from December-May in his last season and that included 2 wins in consecutive weeks in April v QPR and Norwich Rewriting history is the name of the game I think people forget how truly awful we were to watch under Pulis for the most part when we didn't have Ricardo to entertain us. Pugsley is right as well,this place will be unbearable tonight if we happen to lose today.
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Post by Davef on Aug 29, 2015 6:59:20 GMT
So higgy now isn't allowed an opinion and pulis isn't allowed a good reception. Some of you need to get a grip Not this old garbage again. Of course he's entitled to an opinion. And people are entitled to disagree with him. As for your other sentence, name one person who has said that Pulis isn't entitled to a good reception. Go on, one...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 29, 2015 7:01:55 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. Name names.
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 29, 2015 7:05:30 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. Name names. Pot, kettle, black. I'm sure there were people who wanted Stoke to lose when Pulis was in charge just so they could say 'I was right' ... Nothing I've seen the last two days has changed my mind on that.
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