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Post by walton corner on Aug 28, 2015 18:37:56 GMT
just on talksport higgy says stoke players dont have fight in them ,too many nice players and defence is fragile ,he believes rondom will have a big game tomorrow ,we need to prove him wrong so are players need that great atmosphere that we can produce that gets the players firing and getting stuck in something van twinkle and affeley have so far not shown ,...walters must play in these types of game , my team to win tomorrow. butland johnson geoff wollschied muniesa whelen van twinkle walters shaq arnie diouf .. for me pieters is out of form ,affeley is not a CM ...Bojan to come on for van twinkle on the hour .. i predict 3-1 stoke walters johnson diouf .......to net
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 18:39:27 GMT
Fuck off Higginbotham.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 18:41:02 GMT
No fight ....hmmm tell that to Spurs ...
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 28, 2015 18:45:48 GMT
just on talksport higgy says stoke players dont have fight in them ,too many nice players and defence is fragile ,he believes rondom will have a big game tomorrow ,we need to prove him wrong so are players need that great atmosphere that we can produce that gets the players firing and getting stuck in something van twinkle and affeley have so far not shown ,...walters must play in these types of game , my team to win tomorrow. butland johnson geoff wollschied muniesa whelen van twinkle walters shaq arnie diouf .. for me pieters is out of form ,affeley is not a CM ...Bojan to come on for van twinkle on the hour .. i predict 3-1 stoke walters johnson diouf .......to net Always liked Higgy and he is a good pundit but the more I hear him the less anyone would realise he ever played for Stoke. Almost sounds as if he spent his entire career at Manure
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 18:46:20 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by.
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 18:49:38 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. Remind me how the mighty Baggies went on last Tuesday again.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 18:49:48 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. Did you go Spurs away?
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Post by Linx on Aug 28, 2015 18:54:07 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. It will be a very different line up on Saturday, though. Plus, I suspect that LMH will have had a few words in shell-likes after Tuesday. Let's face it, we rarely have back-to-back bad performances and I reckon the boys are gagging to put things right at home. And the factor of Shaq's debut home game will cancel out the Pulis love-in in terms of net profit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 18:55:12 GMT
Someone's becoming a tad obsessed.
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 28, 2015 18:55:50 GMT
Of course it is easy to "imagine" a WBA win. Fear is an emotion we all are blessed with and there isn't a Stoke fan who wouldn't be terribly hurt to see Pulis bring a team that we nearly always beat and stuff us at our own ground. That would hurt. I imagine anyone entering a battle with this frame of mind is also a loser. I wouldn't want any Stoke player with that stench of fear on him entering the fray tomorrow. Why should our team players be carrying that baggage round with them tomorrow? Man for man we have far superior players who have played at the highest level. The playing record in the last two seasons holds up this record too. We have the better manager and coaching staff. Please also WBA are coming into our arena and our battleground! As long as the Stoke fans go to the ground tomorrow and do their part in making it uncomfortable for Pulis and WBA players I know we are the most likely to win.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 28, 2015 18:57:53 GMT
No stage fright tomorrow.
Come on.
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 18:59:43 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. Remind me how the mighty Baggies went on last Tuesday again. pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 28, 2015 19:03:34 GMT
I loved Higginbotham when he was here but by fucking Christ he comes out with some oral afterbirth at times.
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 19:03:59 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. It will be a very different line up on Saturday, though. Plus, I suspect that LMH will have had a few words in shell-likes after Tuesday. Let's face it, we rarely have back-to-back bad performances and I reckon the boys are gagging to put things right at home. And the factor of Shaq's debut home game will cancel out the Pulis love-in in terms of net profit. I know the starting eleven will be different, and obviously I hope you're right. Just don't see as Higgy's prediction is anything to get upset about. We know TP will come to save the point he starts the afternoon with, let's see if we can get round them. If they're anything like we used to be away, IF we can, then they may as well go home as soon as we score ????
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:07:59 GMT
Really hate to say it, but sadly, I reckon higgy is right...... the lad is thinking with his brain not heart.
But hopefully, I'm wrong ....again
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Post by liamo on Aug 28, 2015 19:08:22 GMT
I can see what he's saying if i'm honest, we're decent on the counter attack but Pulis is the master of setting his team up to not concede and we're unable to break teams down when they do
If we want anything we need to be playing players that make stuff happen, Shaqiri, Bojan, Arnie
They will come at us no doubt, but the difference will be how well we're able to get at them, if they're able to double up on our key players then they could easily sneak a win, especially considering Pulis knows how to score set pieces and we're basically shit at defending them
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 19:08:39 GMT
Remind me how the mighty Baggies went on last Tuesday again. pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down. Of course they'll be tough to break down. They're not Bayern Munich though.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:17:20 GMT
I like Higgs, a shit commentator though. Surely you'd expect him to come out with something like that though as he was a player who got by on passion and spirit over his ability. Makes me think players of that ilk respect that side of the game more!
He might be right, but I don't think he is!
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 19:18:44 GMT
Well, I hate to be a doom merchant but I can easily see an Albion win. Different side or not, play like we did on Tuesday and a Pulis side will be far too tough to break down. Of course I want to be proved wrong. Higgy knows his stuff, looking at it objectively, this is not as preposterous as it woulda been in years gone by. It will be a very different line up on Saturday, though. Plus, I suspect that LMH will have had a few words in shell-likes after Tuesday. Let's face it, we rarely have back-to-back bad performances and I reckon the boys are gagging to put things right at home. And the factor of Shaq's debut home game will cancel out the Pulis love-in in terms of net profit. I take your point but that was Spurs, playing at home and with a two goal lead. It was a great fight back and I'm not knocking our spirit, all I'm saying is that if WBA come here with the same sort of mentality which we did away under Pulis, defending the point first and foremost, then I think it'll be a test for our attack.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 28, 2015 19:20:22 GMT
Really hate to say it, but sadly, I reckon higgy is right...... the lad is thinking with his brain not heart. But hopefully, I'm wrong ....again The too many nice players thing is bullshit. He just can't get to grips with us not playing like we did when he was here. His tactical analysis on Twitter on everything from Stoke to England is 'invite the opposition on, get behind the ball and test it to a big man'. His master's voice.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 28, 2015 19:22:31 GMT
Cameron Adam Walters all needed I suspect Higginbottom is repeating stuff he as heard from ex colleges on " fight " with last seasons team i would be very confident this one looks very unbalanced and i really fear the worst tomorrow which would make for a truly awful start .
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 28, 2015 19:25:02 GMT
Just a reminder that this team with 'no fight' only lost to an expensively assembled Liverpool via a late wonder goal despite being under strength. And then took two away points, coming back from two goals down against a Europa League side in one of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:27:23 GMT
Really hate to say it, but sadly, I reckon higgy is right...... the lad is thinking with his brain not heart. But hopefully, I'm wrong ....again The too many nice players thing is bullshit. He just can't get to grips with us not playing like we did when he was here. His tactical analysis on Twitter on everything from Stoke to England is 'invite the opposition on, get behind the ball and test it to a big man'. His master's voice. I hope and pray you're right mate.....I'll have a face like a smacked arse all weekend if we get beat by Pulis and westbrom......We'll soon see if higgys talking sence tomorrow ...like I said earlier I'm praying I'm wrong
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 28, 2015 19:27:30 GMT
Did he spout that "identity" bollocks as well?
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 19:28:40 GMT
pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down. Of course they'll be tough to break down. They're not Bayern Munich though. No they're not. They're just a team I desperately want to beat, so we can go into the international break with a win on the board. I know it sounds mental, given their league position and our history but I'd rather face a lot of other sides in the league tomorrow over Pulis and one of our most local rivals.
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Post by sportsman on Aug 28, 2015 19:30:00 GMT
I find it funny how the media kept saying we play it long and this and that, we change it, like most of them were on at us to do, then they start saying we have too many nice players. Do barca and Madrid have too many nice players?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:33:45 GMT
Is he the white Garth crooks??
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Post by jonnybravo on Aug 28, 2015 19:36:52 GMT
I think we'll give away atleast 1 from a series piece but think we could bag a couple more,hope he doesn't start with crouch though
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 19:41:50 GMT
Really hate to say it, but sadly, I reckon higgy is right...... the lad is thinking with his brain not heart. But hopefully, I'm wrong ....again The too many nice players thing is bullshit. He just can't get to grips with us not playing like we did when he was here. His tactical analysis on Twitter on everything from Stoke to England is 'invite the opposition on, get behind the ball and test it to a big man'. His master's voice. Exactly my thoughts...we still have some steel in the team...bring it on
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 19:44:21 GMT
Who are these players with no fight then?
The vast majority were part of squads that have achieved two top ten Premier League finishes.
The new boys have played three games. A former professional should know better than to judge them before August is over.
Pathetic.
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