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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 21:01:07 GMT
Nothing wrong with Higgy for me,always comes across as a decent bloke but all of a sudden he's the anti christ.It's not only Pulis now but his former players as well,very sad. No mate, he's talking shit. I can agree with him on the defensive problems, but what's he basing the lack of fight on? As I said, this squad helped us to two top ten finishes and it's way too early - especially for a former professional - to be judging the new boys. Alan Hudson used to lambast Lou Macari's team and we didn't put up with that despite him being a hero to most of us.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 28, 2015 21:04:09 GMT
Has anybody actually listened to it here? The OP is making it out to be worse than it is!
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Post by Clayton Wood on Aug 28, 2015 21:04:37 GMT
Actually he's probably made for the job to be honest. Bunch of platitudes, cast in the same mould as Michael Owen. Wallpaper for the football watching public. Only thing that's interesting about him is can you actually see light through those ears. Like him or not, he's a completely different type of pundit than Owen. I think he's open to some accusations that his views are a little old school but he at least has a proper view unlike Owen and the like. It's as interesting as listening to water drain down the plughole at a funeral directors convention. Give him a job on BT European extravaganza TV that nobody watches and give us a break. As for like or dislike him, as a player at the time he was as good as we could get. As a pundit; that's what trying to say all the right things looks like, Clive.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 21:10:06 GMT
Nothing wrong with Higgy for me,always comes across as a decent bloke but all of a sudden he's the anti christ.It's not only Pulis now but his former players as well,very sad. No mate, he's talking shit. I can agree with him on the defensive problems, but what's he basing the lack of fight on? As I said, this squad helped us to two top ten finishes and it's way too early - especially for a former professional - to be judging the new boys. Alan Hudson used to lambast Lou Macari's team and we didn't put up with that despite him being a hero to most of us. He probably bases it on what he's seen so far and that's his opinion or rightly or wrongly the type of player we've bought in.Time will tell on his opinion but he's not the only one in the media to talk like this.The Soccer Saturday panel who have been our biggest fans over the last 2 seasons have said exactly the same for the last 2 weeks also. Add Carragher to that also
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 21:11:50 GMT
Does he advocate Swansea and Southampton having his bottle and battler type players
he's actually insulting SCFC and its support
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 21:14:21 GMT
He's sold his book and pocketed his money and now it's time for him to show his true colours regards SCFC
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 21:15:58 GMT
pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down. Of course they'll be tough to break down. They're not Bayern Munich though. funnily enough neither are we
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 21:19:04 GMT
No mate, he's talking shit. I can agree with him on the defensive problems, but what's he basing the lack of fight on? As I said, this squad helped us to two top ten finishes and it's way too early - especially for a former professional - to be judging the new boys. Alan Hudson used to lambast Lou Macari's team and we didn't put up with that despite him being a hero to most of us. He probably bases it on what he's seen so far and that's his opinion or rightly or wrongly the type of player we've bought in.Time will tell on his opinion but he's not the only one in the media to talk like this.The Soccer Saturday panel who have been our biggest fans over the last 2 seasons have said exactly the same for the last 2 weeks also. Add Carragher to that also No mate they are just summising what might happen and not what's actually happened Unlucky v Liverpool battered Tottenham 2nd half and yeah poor last week Much like every other team bar Man City
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Post by thehoof on Aug 28, 2015 21:22:15 GMT
Remind me how the mighty Baggies went on last Tuesday again. pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down. Except WBA played their first team and we didn't. The legend of TP's away prowess is not supported by fact. Score the first goal and TP will continue to defend and trust for a set piece to have a chance of getting back into the game. If we score a second, then he will protect that so that his goal difference doesn't get any worse. In effect Higgy must think that Vale's defense is better than ours, seeing as Robson didn't cause Vale that much trouble.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 21:24:39 GMT
He probably bases it on what he's seen so far and that's his opinion or rightly or wrongly the type of player we've bought in.Time will tell on his opinion but he's not the only one in the media to talk like this.The Soccer Saturday panel who have been our biggest fans over the last 2 seasons have said exactly the same for the last 2 weeks also. Add Carragher to that also No mate they are just summising what might happen and not what's actually happened Unlucky v Liverpool battered Tottenham 2nd half and yeah poor last week Much like every other team bar Man City Just like Higgy they are giving THEIR opinion like me and you Liverpool should have been a draw Tottenham game of 2 halfs Norwich very poor Luton Dreadful Hopefully tomorrow we fuckin batter them and all talk from pundits won't matter a flying fuck
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Post by bertiestan on Aug 28, 2015 21:28:37 GMT
He doesn't like us very much does he?
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Post by thehoof on Aug 28, 2015 21:34:39 GMT
Of course they'll be tough to break down. They're not Bayern Munich though. funnily enough neither are we And who has said we are? FFS ST4, just for once try and think of something that is not undeniably negative. Okay, you love bruising up and at em football, but if you bothered to look you would realise Stoke didn't do it that often in years 4&5 of TP's reign, hence our struggle to 42 points in TP's last season. Save yourself the stress of despising the current SCFC set up, team selection etc and take a couple of months off. When you return we will have a better view of whether you are indeed correct, or whether you have been suffering unnecessarily.
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Post by hartzchoco on Aug 28, 2015 21:39:21 GMT
Merse has us taking it 2-0. I like Merse better.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 28, 2015 21:40:06 GMT
I think we will have to play a fair bit better than we have so far to beat anyone in this league , usual slow start from us . Tomorrow i doubt we will get through them unless we up the tempo a fair bit and our wide players both play very well , personally i would leave van ginkel and affelay on the bench and play Adam with Whelan but if we can have 90 minutes like the last 30 at Spurs we can win the game no problem
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Aug 28, 2015 21:41:08 GMT
Gone a bit chilly toneet. There won't be any bastard refreshment breaks to disrupt the flow tomorrow.
Players that is.
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Post by nik80 on Aug 28, 2015 21:46:09 GMT
pretty much the same as us, against tougher opposition, albeit at home. Just think they'll be tough to break down. Except WBA played their first team and we didn't. The legend of TP's away prowess is not supported by fact. Score the first goal and TP will continue to defend and trust for a set piece to have a chance of getting back into the game. If we score a second, then he will protect that so that his goal difference doesn't get any worse. In effect Higgy must think that Vale's defense is better than ours, seeing as Robson didn't cause Vale that much trouble. totally agree that TP will come defending the point he starts the afternoon with, we score, fine, they may as well fuck off home. Just lets see us score ay? I'm not saying we can't or won't, simply that it'll be tough and that I can't see a problem with what Higgy's said.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 28, 2015 21:48:08 GMT
Does he advocate Swansea and Southampton having his bottle and battler type players I dont think its so much that as work rate and our new players have not adapted yet , Swansea really took the game to chelsea that takes a lot of bottle and so far this season southssmpton are struggling too. If we play slowball I doubt we will win but if we up the tempo and work as a unit , fight to get the ball back when we lose it , we have the ability to beat teams like albion no problem
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 21:54:44 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines.
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Post by chopperscfc on Aug 28, 2015 21:57:09 GMT
Shaqiri bojan afellay tomorrow will be different class
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 21:57:40 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. If you believe that mate then your seriously deluded
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 28, 2015 21:59:24 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. If you believe that mate then your seriously deluded We will see tomorrow won't we if the worst happens.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 22:02:03 GMT
If you believe that mate then your seriously deluded We will see tomorrow won't we if the worst happens. What you'll see is a typical reaction after a game on here and your no different
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 28, 2015 22:03:18 GMT
I wonder where this legendary fight was in Higgy's time when we basically travelled to every away game, shit ourselves and tried to keep the score down?
There was certainly no fighting to win many away games!! That no one can deny!
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Post by ParaPsych on Aug 28, 2015 22:04:50 GMT
If you believe that mate then your seriously deluded We will see tomorrow won't we if the worst happens. I can tell you want us to lose so you can claim to be proven right about this.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 22:04:30 GMT
funnily enough neither are we And who has said we are? FFS ST4, just for once try and think of something that is not undeniably negative. Okay, you love bruising up and at em football, but if you bothered to look you would realise Stoke didn't do it that often in years 4&5 of TP's reign, hence our struggle to 42 points in TP's last season. Save yourself the stress of despising the current SCFC set up, team selection etc and take a couple of months off. When you return we will have a better view of whether you are indeed correct, or whether you have been suffering unnecessarily. Not exactly love bruising it up football but I'm aware of the fact a balance is essential unlike most.
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Post by st4scfc on Aug 28, 2015 22:06:46 GMT
Here's the rub and I've said it before and I truly believe it - there is an undercurrent of support who will take joy in a WBA win tomorrow so they can lay into Hughes and continue to eulogies over Pulis. It will be denied but they can't wait, you only have to read in between the lines. defines tool. Who the fuck on here wants wba to win, of course pugs course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 22:12:06 GMT
I wonder where this legendary fight was in Higgy's time when we basically travelled to every away game, shit ourselves and tried to keep the score down? There was certainly no fighting to win many away games!! That no one can deny! Tick tick tick BOOM!!! spot on though
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Post by barcaontrent on Aug 28, 2015 22:12:36 GMT
I understand that he has a job to do and he can't be sentimental and some of his criticism is valid. But recentley it really feels like he's got something against us, and spouting all this no fight without walters bollocks is just annoying me more. Did he watch the Spurs game, we showed more fight when John went off
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 22:12:51 GMT
Nothing wrong with Higgy for me,always comes across as a decent bloke but all of a sudden he's the anti christ.It's not only Pulis now but his former players as well,very sad. No mate, he's talking shit. I can agree with him on the defensive problems, but what's he basing the lack of fight on? As I said, this squad helped us to two top ten finishes and it's way too early - especially for a former professional - to be judging the new boys. Alan Hudson used to lambast Lou Macari's team and we didn't put up with that despite him being a hero to most of us. Didn't put up with that .. Why ..what did you do?
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 22:14:04 GMT
What do you think?
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